White Officers in Minority Communities

[SugarDaddy1]

Some disgruntled Minneapolis residents are urging each other to refrain from calling 911 during an emergency as a form of protest against police brutality following the death of George Floyd.

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[RobDownSouth]

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Probably a prudent thing to do in this day and age. We can no longer count on Police de-escalating any situation, no matter how routine. The militarized police seem to relish their "qualified immunity" to hurt and kill people.

 

[FlowersForFun]

ABOLISH ALL COPS!!! Get rid of them ALL!!

No more policing.

EVERY MAN FOR THEMSELVES!!!!

 

[hogjack]

Thank you to everyone (OK, just a dozen so far) providing feedback on my simple idea to remove "white" cops from predominantly black communities and neighborhoods. Most agree this is an idea worthy of strong consideration. It is not perfect and it is unfortunate things have come to this point.

However, for those who think I am implying "white" cops are all racist and killers that is not accurate. Most cops of all races, genders, and creeds do their job well dealing with difficult, sometimes horrible people. However, optics matter to a huge percentage of the US population. They want change.

My idea is based on reducing contact points that could potentially lead to other incidents. In fact, it is inevitable other incidents will occur based on violence and cop/suspect confrontations in major cities. Bad people and cops will tangle. Things will escalate. Cameras will be ready to capture the moment.

 

[Conager]

He loves a little domestic terrorism in the morning. You know he’s be holed up “inspecting” his bunker.

No, the actual domestic terrorism is ongoing by your side. Putting down an insurrection is not terrorism. Insisting on the rule of law is not terrorism. Insisting that your terrorists and your terrorist enablers abide by our constitution and the rule of law instead of using violence to intimidate the populous into making changes you favor, is not terrorism.

Rahman, 31, said in the video before the Molotov incident that violence against cops was “understandable,” adding, “people are angry because the police are never held accountable.

“This has got to stop. And the only way they hear, the only way they hear us is through violence, through the means that they use,” she said.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/05/molotov-lawyer-urooj-rahman-blames-de-blasio-for-not-calling-off-nypd/

This is not atypical and this lawyer is well connected to your DNC sponsors of actual domestic terrorism.

Words have actual meanings and she is openly admiting to at least arson to advance her political point of view and outright condoning acts of physical harm up to and including murder. This is the definition of terrorism.

Pointing out how quickly you fantasy warriors will lose if you continue, not just with your terroristic threats, but your current, ongoing acts of terrorism is not terrorism.

Lost in all of this inciting of race riots to advance your political prospects is both that you are hurting POC and their communities far more than the alleged perpetrators of systemic racism and that this systemic racism of which you speak, to the extent that it actually exists exists in crime-ridden, big, blue cities that YOU of the DNC have had a free hand to mold and shape to YOUR liking for DECADES.

You are the problem, such as it is a problem and nothing your beloved leaders have done or are doing is advancing either peace or prosperity in minority communities that YOU run, often with minority politicians.

 

[SpeareChucker]

How do these two ideas remain comfortably compartmentalized:

1). We must do everything we can to normalize undocumented citizens;
they have to feel safe in dealing with the police and reporting crimes and

2). The police hate you because you are a minority, they habitually
brutalize you and kill you indiscriminately, so we must take actions such as

A). Defunding them
B). Eliminating them
C). Criminalizing them or
D). Assuming they are bad actors
E). Not calling them about committed crimes?​

 

[Conager]

Their cognitive dissonance is worse than that.

Two weeks ago they were cheering the police for issuing citations to hairdressers and barbers and families in parks and beaches. Sunny beaches. The decried public gatherings and church attendance and approved of not just police power of the State for the good order of society and public safety in restricting first ammendment rights, play were happy to have uniformed police officers fulfilling that enforcement role.

When you look at what it takes to be a progressive, they are on the authoritarianism end of the psyche scale. They believe that the state and it's authority are essential for the utopia that they plan the build. The believe in strong, centralized command and control.

Now granted, their authoritarianism is going to be benevolent (of course.)

How do you build a benevolent authoritarian Police-State without police?

They approve of Antifa using violent tactics to "fight fascism." I can't imagine that they would object to some heavy handed, jack-booted policing of their enemies.

 

[SpeareChucker]

You are right.


The police were good when the Left thought
they were dispersing and suppressing the deplorables
that were going to allow their sheer stupidity to infect and kill off
the intelligentsia, the woke, the reasonable voices of Lit and the undocumented...

 

[Conager]

Most bizarre the way whenever they develop a political strategy they stick with it, whether in makes sense in the next election cycle or not.. they just got these layers of resentment that they are signed to various groups who are then supposed to vote for them. Because they offer any particular solutions by because the other guys are worthy of resentment.

This is there now standard play of angry up the black voters. The thing is, I don't think they really want to be having a conversation about blacks and law and order because Trump wins on that. Finding he is on record dragging about the being the chief architect of all of the tough anti-crime laws that havw resulted in such high incarceration rates in the black community. Trumpet sign legislation designed to ameliorate some of the Biden effect.

With the Chinese Corona virus lockdown I think the plan was to get Trump to go Authority in an order the lockdown. When he passed the f*** to the governor's that frustrated it. Same thing here they really hope City National Isis did national Guard and puts automatic rifles on the streets.

If he doesn't do that and the riots eventually die down at some point it's got to occur to the voters that these riots, and the reasons for the riots are all happening in blue States run by Democrat. How does that are from? Those are states that he's not going to win anyway and he looks better in the non blue state.

Obviosly, they neither created the virus nor the reason for the riots although the underlying overhyped narrative for both belongs to them. Does latest one they been hard on because they were concerned that Trump is making headway in the black community. And he did way better than the expected in the last election cycle.

In the past none of this mattered because whoever the Republican was wouldn't push back against the nonsense. They have to know the Trump is going to flight out point out all of this. He's going to do it loudly and often.

It's like they're not really thinking any of this through.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Welfare reform rips the black father from the family,
turns him into a player, you know, like Upgrayedd,
and then when crime and other hilarity erupts,
you naturally crack down on the criminals who
happen to be black and they fill up the jails,
which is clearly not fair, so they must be released,
or ignored, condoned and when they develop a gansta
culture, celebrated for their urban art and expression of
black reality and like Bruce Jenner, anyone who thinks
that is not a beautiful and empowering thing is the root
of all of the social problems faced by the black community...

It's not dysfunctional because of Progressive white people,
it's dysfunctional because of the deplorable white people
and the goon squads they control and Joe Biden
has willingly and haplessly played both parts in
this ongoing docudrama!

You ain't black if you don't vote JOE!
Reminds me of how you weren't Republican if you didn't vote JEB!

 

[icanhelp1]

Lots of thoughts there.

"Police State!" Shades of "Tricky" Dick. Obviously the motive behind that is the same, make Trump the fall guy for it all. Police are local and purposely so. NO president has any jurisdiction over local police. And the dangers in having a National Police are just far to great to list.

In those areas of greatest unrest the politicians have enacted laws that make it almost impossible for the citizen to protect themselves or their property. Either by severely restricting access to firearms, or turning the citizen into the criminal if they dare to use them.

And you are absolutely correct in the observation that those politicians are acting out of fear for themselves so they project their fear on the populace all in the name of "saving you." They aren't saving squat. All they've done is make it safer for the criminal to go about their trade.

I find that African Americans are more racist than white folks, but if you espouse that you’re a racist. I live in a predominantly white neighborhood and African Americans can walk our neighborhood free of fear and are welcomed. I wouldn’t even think of walking a predominately black neighborhood, wouldn’t end well. Why do I know this, because I did once and was threatened, called all kind of names. White lives matter also.

 

[SpeareChucker]

I find that African Americans are more racist than white folks, but if you espouse that you’re a racist. I live in a predominantly white neighborhood and African Americans can walk our neighborhood free of fear and are welcomed. I wouldn’t even think of walking a predominately black neighborhood, wouldn’t end well. Why do I know this, because I did once and was threatened, called all kind of names. White lives matter also.

Hey, Drew, you had your chance...



Now shut the fuck up so you don't have to apologize again!

 

[icanhelp1]

Hey, Drew, you had your chance...



Now shut the fuck up so you don't have to apologize again!

Sorry, forgot about my WHITE PRIVILEGE!

 

[SpeareChucker]

For Cinnefille

Meant that for another thread...

 

[icanhelp1]

I might be taking a vacation from football this season.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Sorry, forgot about my WHITE PRIVILEGE!

I might be taking a vacation from football this season.

You might be...

Social Justice, anti-American jingoism and #BLM
now mean more than winning a silly game like the Super Bowl...

 

[SpeareChucker]

The DC Mayor is making it perfectly clear,

we don't want soldiers (The National Guard) here.

This is going to turn out well,
paralyzed police without backup,
is the goal then to burn the White House?

Would that possibly sate the anger at Trump's murder of an innocent black man?




PS - We must take their guns away too...

 

[Rightguide]

The DC Mayor is making it perfectly clear,

we don't want soldiers (The National Guard) here.

This is going to turn out well,
paralyzed police without backup,
is the goal then to burn the White House?

Would that possibly sate the anger at Trump's murder of an innocent black man?





PS - We must take their guns away too...

The Mayor isn't the ultimate authority in DC.

 

[SpeareChucker]

The Mayor isn't the ultimate authority in DC.

Misogyny on top of Racism???

 

[Rightguide]

I find that African Americans are more racist than white folks, but if you espouse that you’re a racist. I live in a predominantly white neighborhood and African Americans can walk our neighborhood free of fear and are welcomed. I wouldn’t even think of walking a predominately black neighborhood, wouldn’t end well. Why do I know this, because I did once and was threatened, called all kind of names. White lives matter also.

Only black lives matter, because truth doesn't matter.

 

[renard_ruse]

[This one is for the trolls.]

Since these communities are telling us that the police, our society and Donald Trump
are perpetrators of systemic and pervasive racism, maybe it is a good time
to end this practice, lay them all of and come up with a new
community-based alternative to policing in general.

#MinneapolisStrong

#NoBrokenWindows

Where did this word "systemic" even come from all of a sudden? I've been a native English speaker my entire life and the only time I've heard this word until the past couple of weeks was in relation to poison for rose bushes. Seriously, WTF?

 

[SpeareChucker]

Interviews with the protestors 'demonstrate' that they have no clue why they are protesting.

They aren't even sure what they are protesting.
When asked about their goals, all you hear are platitudes
and nebulous solutions; new policies, new community funding,
the end to systemic Racism (which they are taught to see in everything).
It doesn't even sink in that they have used their right to franchise and physical mobility
to create communities that not only look like them, but enjoy leadership that looks just like them
and votes Democrat, just like them, and yet, they don't see the progress, they see setback in getting what they vote for.

This episode will be washed away in the next big crises,
but the movement will go on, because too many people are vested in it.
It provides career, notoriety (importance), funding, a sense of importance
and an implicit condonation of bad acts and actors (think Al Sharpton) because,
while the actual incident/even may have been faked, The Story is still true: black means 'victim...'

 

[WillJ8787]

Explain how an officer goes 19 years without killing someone,
and then a guy, on drugs, has a heart attack
and, suddenly, he's a murderer...

... and a Racist.

Dude, this is so wrong. Wtf! He had his knee on his neck until he stopped breathing and we'll after that. Your telling me I didn't see that with my own eyes.

Go ahead, you, people like you, Trump....keep saying we didn't see what we saw. Then you wonder why everyone is losing it. Dude...your so out of touch with reality.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Dude, this is so wrong. Wtf! He had his knee on his neck until he stopped breathing and we'll after that. Your telling me I didn't see that with my own eyes.

Go ahead, you, people like you, Trump....keep saying we didn't see what we saw. Then you wonder why everyone is losing it. Dude...your so out of touch with reality.

There's no reason to engage in personal attack when you have a winning argument.
Did you read the toxicology results from both autopsies?

Not too terribly long ago, we were focused like a laser
on the opioid epidemic and the clear and present
danger of death by Fentanyl and lo and behold
what was this guy high on? Fentanyl! and
it killed him. The drug addled behave
in unpredictable ways subject to
sudden mood changes...

I have stated for over a full week that I do not believe in trial by video, but
would rather rely on the results of the investigation as well as pointing out
that in over 30 years of martial training, not one system has taught me
that the observed action is an effective submission or kill technique.

If you have convicted before the indictment and trial
then you don't believe in our system of jurisprudence, but are
rather advocating for either Napoleonic law or mob justice (lynching).

 

[wabbitfoot]

Dude, this is so wrong. Wtf! He had his knee on his neck until he stopped breathing and we'll after that. Your telling me I didn't see that with my own eyes.

Go ahead, you, people like you, Trump....keep saying we didn't see what we saw. Then you wonder why everyone is losing it. Dude...your so out of touch with reality.

we also see COLOREDS attack police. burn. loot. riot etc and WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU?

btw, I AXED YOU A QUESTION, answer the fucking question.....