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Politruk said:
I know who the Palestinians are. They are the descendants of ancient Israelites, Canaanites and Philistines -- they have always lived there. They have changed their language, culture and religion several times over the millennia, but they are still the same people -- the indigenous people of Palestine/Canaan/Levant.
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What aspects of Palestinian culture leads you to associate them with the ancient inhabitants of the Levant? They speak Arabic, practice Islam, and call themselves by a colonial name.

The Israelis are indigenous to the region and the Palestinian Arabs want to expel them.
 
Politruk said:
Trump wants to remove them from the Gaza Strip and never let them return -- "Gaza has been unlucky for them." But Egypt and Jordan have both said they won't take them. Who does that leave, but the one country with more experience than any other at absorbing immigrants from all over the world? :)
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Fucking idiot post.
 
Fuzzy1975 said:
Look who's now mimicking me.....*chuckles* should I start calling you Pablo, instead of bobo? poor uneducated bobo.
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The racism just never stops LOL

How am I uneducated? Do you even know what that means or is that another buzzword you don't understand??
 
The sooner everyone realizes the Gaza Arabs fate is sealed, the better. They can move or die. And they've been given that choice. The only thing under negotiation is where they're going to go................and it's not to the US.
 
BrightShinyGirl said:
What aspects of Palestinian culture leads you to associate them with the ancient inhabitants of the Levant?\
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Their direct lineal descent from them. These are the people who simply never left. There is a Palestinian Diaspora, but it only dates from 1947.
 
Politruk said:
That is historically false. There were hardly any Jews in Palestine when Herzl founded the Zionist movement.
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Finally a grain of truth. All of the Arabs that did not rebel still own their property and are elected members of the government.
 
Rebel5soul said:
Finally a grain of truth. All of the Arabs that did not rebel still own their property and are elected members of the government.
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That is also historically false. 700,000 Palestinians were driven out in 1948, and only a minority of those were rebels.

In the 1948 Palestine war, more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs – about half of Mandatory Palestine's predominantly Arab population – were expelled or fled from their homes, at first by Zionist paramilitaries,[a] and after the establishment of Israel, by its military.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight#cite_note-5 The expulsion and flight was a central component of the fracturing, dispossession, and displacement of Palestinian society, known as the Nakba.[4] Dozens of massacres targeting Arabs were conducted by Israeli military forces and between 400 and 600 Palestinian villages were destroyed. Village wells were poisoned in a biological warfare programme and properties were looted to prevent Palestinian refugees from returning.[5][6] Other sites were subject to Hebraization of Palestinian place names.[7]
 
Palestinians:

Origins​

Main articles: Origin of the Palestinians and Demographic history of Palestine (region)
Historical records and later genetic studies indicate that the Palestinian people descend mostly from Ancient Levantines extending back to Bronze Age inhabitants of Levant.[82][83][84][85][86][87][88] According to Palestinian historian Nazmi Al-Ju'beh like in other Arab nations, the Arab identity of Palestinians, largely based on linguistic and cultural affiliation, is independent of the existence of any actual Arabian origins.[89] Palestinians are sometimes described as indigenous.[35] In a human rights context, the word indigenous may have different definitions; the UN Commission on Human Rights uses several criteria to define this term.[90]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians#cite_note-93

Palestine has undergone many demographic and religious upheavals throughout history. During the 2nd millennium BCE, it was inhabited by the Canaanites, Semitic-speaking peoples who practiced the Canaanite religion.[92] Most Palestinians share a strong genetic link to the ancient Canaanites.[93][94] Israelites later emerged as an outgrowth of southern Canaanite civilization, with Jews and Israelite Samaritans eventually forming the majority of the population in Palestine during classical antiquity,[95][96][97][98][99][100] However, the Jewish population in Jerusalem and its surroundings in Judea, and Samaritan population in Samaria, never fully recovered as a result of the Jewish-Roman Wars and Samaritan revolts respectively.[101]

In the centuries that followed, the region experienced political and economic unrest, mass conversions to Christianity (and subsequent Christianization of the Roman Empire), and the religious persecution of minorities.[102][103] The immigration of Christians, the emigration of Jews, and the conversion of pagans, Jews and Samaritans, contributed to a Christian majority forming in Late Roman and Byzantine Palestine.[104][105][106][107]

In the 7th century, the Arab Rashiduns conquered the Levant; they were later succeeded by other Arab Muslim dynasties, including the Umayyads, Abbasids and the Fatimids.[108] Over the following several centuries, the population of Palestine drastically decreased, from an estimated 1 million during the Roman and Byzantine periods to about 300,000 by the early Ottoman period.[109][110] Over time, the existing population adopted Arab culture and language and much converted to Islam.[105] The settlement of Arabs before and after the Muslim conquest is thought to have played a role in accelerating the Islamization process.[111][112][113][114] Some scholars suggest that by the arrival of the Crusaders, Palestine was already overwhelmingly Muslim,[115][116] while others claim that it was only after the Crusades that the Christians lost their majority, and that the process of mass Islamization took place much later, perhaps during the Mamluk period.[111][117]

For several centuries during the Ottoman period the population in Palestine declined and fluctuated between 150,000 and 250,000 inhabitants, and it was only in the 19th century that a rapid population growth began to occur.[118] This growth was aided by the immigration of Egyptians (during the reigns of Muhammad Ali and Ibrahim Pasha) and Algerians (following Abdelkader El Djezaïri's revolt) in the first half of the 19th century, and the subsequent immigration of Algerians, Bosnians, and Circassians during the second half of the century.[119][120] Between 1871 and 1945, around a dozen villages were established by immigrants.[121]
 
Politruk said:
Palestinians:

Origins​

Main articles: Origin of the Palestinians and Demographic history of Palestine (region)
Historical records and later genetic studies indicate that the Palestinian people descend mostly from Ancient Levantines extending back to Bronze Age inhabitants of Levant.[82][83][84][85][86][87][88] According to Palestinian historian Nazmi Al-Ju'beh like in other Arab nations, the Arab identity of Palestinians, largely based on linguistic and cultural affiliation, is independent of the existence of any actual Arabian origins.[89] Palestinians are sometimes described as indigenous.[35] In a human rights context, the word indigenous may have different definitions; the UN Commission on Human Rights uses several criteria to define this term.[90]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians#cite_note-93

Palestine has undergone many demographic and religious upheavals throughout history. During the 2nd millennium BCE, it was inhabited by the Canaanites, Semitic-speaking peoples who practiced the Canaanite religion.[92] Most Palestinians share a strong genetic link to the ancient Canaanites.[93][94] Israelites later emerged as an outgrowth of southern Canaanite civilization, with Jews and Israelite Samaritans eventually forming the majority of the population in Palestine during classical antiquity,[95][96][97][98][99][100] However, the Jewish population in Jerusalem and its surroundings in Judea, and Samaritan population in Samaria, never fully recovered as a result of the Jewish-Roman Wars and Samaritan revolts respectively.[101]

In the centuries that followed, the region experienced political and economic unrest, mass conversions to Christianity (and subsequent Christianization of the Roman Empire), and the religious persecution of minorities.[102][103] The immigration of Christians, the emigration of Jews, and the conversion of pagans, Jews and Samaritans, contributed to a Christian majority forming in Late Roman and Byzantine Palestine.[104][105][106][107]

In the 7th century, the Arab Rashiduns conquered the Levant; they were later succeeded by other Arab Muslim dynasties, including the Umayyads, Abbasids and the Fatimids.[108] Over the following several centuries, the population of Palestine drastically decreased, from an estimated 1 million during the Roman and Byzantine periods to about 300,000 by the early Ottoman period.[109][110] Over time, the existing population adopted Arab culture and language and much converted to Islam.[105] The settlement of Arabs before and after the Muslim conquest is thought to have played a role in accelerating the Islamization process.[111][112][113][114] Some scholars suggest that by the arrival of the Crusaders, Palestine was already overwhelmingly Muslim,[115][116] while others claim that it was only after the Crusades that the Christians lost their majority, and that the process of mass Islamization took place much later, perhaps during the Mamluk period.[111][117]

For several centuries during the Ottoman period the population in Palestine declined and fluctuated between 150,000 and 250,000 inhabitants, and it was only in the 19th century that a rapid population growth began to occur.[118] This growth was aided by the immigration of Egyptians (during the reigns of Muhammad Ali and Ibrahim Pasha) and Algerians (following Abdelkader El Djezaïri's revolt) in the first half of the 19th century, and the subsequent immigration of Algerians, Bosnians, and Circassians during the second half of the century.[119][120] Between 1871 and 1945, around a dozen villages were established by immigrants.[121]
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Tough shit, they're gone.
 
Politruk said:
Not to Egypt. Not to Jordan. To America?
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Right, not to the US. But move they will because the rubble is on the verge of becoming even more 'rubbely.' The Israeli's have been given the green light. So we're going to find our which, if any, Arab nations are concerned about the welfare of the Gaza rabble...............won't we?
 
Rebel5soul said:
Right, not to the US. But move they will because the rubble is on the verge of becoming even more 'rubbely.' The Israeli's have been given the green light. So we're going to find our which, if any, Arab nations are concerned about the welfare of the Gaza rabble...............won't we?
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"Rabble"? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

They are of no less value than the Jews.
 
Politruk said:
They are of no less value than the Jews. And we should hold the Israeli government to the entirely reasonable standard of treating them so.
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You reap what you sow. As criminals they are of less value and religion has nothing to do with it.
 
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