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Didn't he do a nice job?
Republican Governor does great job with Gustav
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Look at the difference in how it was handled by Governor Jindal (R) vs. Gov. Blanco (D).
Remember this from just three years ago: (From Washington Post):
Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency operations center said Saturday.
The administration sought unified control over all local police and state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night, concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a political motive behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they'd been able to pull off taking it away from the locals, they then could have blamed everything on the locals," said the source, who does not have the authority to speak publicly.
Remember this from just three years ago: (From Washington Post):
Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency operations center said Saturday.
The administration sought unified control over all local police and state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night, concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a political motive behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they'd been able to pull off taking it away from the locals, they then could have blamed everything on the locals," said the source, who does not have the authority to speak publicly.
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Yeah, Gustav was just like Katrina.. 
Gustav hit shore near Cocodrie, Louisiana, about 70 miles (115 km) southwest of New Orleans, as a Category 2 storm, one step below Katrina's strength at landfall.
Initial loss estimates from Gustav were far below those for Katrina, which caused total loses of more than $80 billion, making it the costliest hurricane in U.S. history.
EQECAT Inc., which helps insurers model catastrophe risk, said it estimated Gustav's insured losses at $6 billion to $10 billion. AIR Worldwide Corp., another firm that provides models for the financial risk from disasters, estimated that Gustav had caused up to $4.5 billion in losses on land and up to another $4.4 billion to offshore oil and gas installations.
Gustav hit shore near Cocodrie, Louisiana, about 70 miles (115 km) southwest of New Orleans, as a Category 2 storm, one step below Katrina's strength at landfall.
Initial loss estimates from Gustav were far below those for Katrina, which caused total loses of more than $80 billion, making it the costliest hurricane in U.S. history.
EQECAT Inc., which helps insurers model catastrophe risk, said it estimated Gustav's insured losses at $6 billion to $10 billion. AIR Worldwide Corp., another firm that provides models for the financial risk from disasters, estimated that Gustav had caused up to $4.5 billion in losses on land and up to another $4.4 billion to offshore oil and gas installations.
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It just illustrates the differences in competancy between the democrat (screwed up and blamed everyone else while the citizens suffered over her agonizing over "how it would look" for if the Republican administration "took over") and the Republican (firm plan well executed with priorities in order and a focus on service for the citizens with little or no worry about "how it would look".)
Go ahead and complain some more...that's all libs are good at. All talk, no action.
Go ahead and complain some more...that's all libs are good at. All talk, no action.
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Yeah, Gustav was just a rain storm and Jindal a piker.....
...and to a Marine Without Honor™ like Vetteman, all oranges taste just like apples.
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Yeah, Gustav was just a rain storm and Jindal a piker.....
Nope, but trying to compare Gustav and Katrina is more than just a little disingenuous.
Other than both being hurricanes, the scope of the damage isn't even remotely close. Gustav was downgraded a full level of magnitude under katrina before it made landfall. The damage caused (according to current reports) is about 1/8th 1/10th of Katrina.
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Yeah, sorry this one goes in the Democrat column.
If they had not have blamed Bush for Katrina, this recovery would not be possible.
THANK ME!
If they had not have blamed Bush for Katrina, this recovery would not be possible.
THANK ME!
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Yeah, but preparations, planning, coordination and actions clearly show huge differences. The Democrat panicked, fumbled and screwed up and Jindal looked like a professional leader.
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That had a lot more to do with FEMA actually making an appearance before the fucking storm hit than it did with Jindal.
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He's not EXPERIENCED enough to be a governor!
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So what's your point? They got the people out before the storm hit. What a novel fucking idea.
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He's been there, what, just a few months?
No way. This is because of what Blanco did after!
No way. This is because of what Blanco did after!
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Yeah...FEMA comes in and Blanco says "Get out of here...dems will look bad if you save the day"
Jindal says "Lets work together and do the best we can for the people in this area"
There's a big difference there.
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What will Obama do in case an emergency arises? What experience does he have in dealing with something like this? He may perform like Jindal or he may do like Blanco...which will it be and how is a discerning voter to decide? What is in his track record to us figure out which it will be? We know that he can give a pretty speech. Will he do more?
How will you vote knowning that your life may be on the line sometime?
How will you vote knowning that your life may be on the line sometime?
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You're so full of shit. FEMA wasn't there this time either. You don't send anyone into the paths of those storms clown. Nor does FEMA do anything more than write checks. They are NOT first responders, never were, and never were intended to be.
Blanco and Nagin screwed the pooch and the people of LA know it, that's why Jindal in in office now. (And Nagin had to buss in evacuees and work the absentee ballots for all he was worth to keep his seat.)
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Rightfield, I think this weekend's panic is a great indicatgor on how he can't get out ahead of an issue; again, he's been playing catchup to the dumbest guy ever to leave the military acadamy.
It's Busha-vu... Back to 2000, back to the famous green spiral playbook...
Gatoraid is better...
It's Busha-vu... Back to 2000, back to the famous green spiral playbook...
Gatoraid is better...
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He gives great speeches, but when it comes to real-life-action, he's been completely ineffective.
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http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=45601
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- As Hurricane Gustav strikes the Louisiana and Mississippi coasts, with the impact felt from Texas to Florida, the Department of Homeland Security's Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is working with numerous federal agencies and voluntary organizations to support state and local authorities as they all focus on life-saving and safety related activities. Federal resources to support Search & Rescue and recovery efforts are pre-staged in areas just outside the storm's impact area and are ready to enter the region in the immediate aftermath of the storm to supplement resources already on the ground in the most impacted communities.
How long after Katrina before FEMA was even close to doing anything? Three days? more?
This time they were pre-staged, ready to sweep in and assist as soon as the storm passed. Jindal had shit to do with it.
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You're still full of shit.
Katrina-FEMA prestage
They were prestaged for Katrina as well. You'll get it one of these days, maybe.
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It's called, they learned from their mistakes.
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How long was it before FEMA actually moved from their pre-staged areas into the disaster area? 3 days, even FEMA in it's own internal investigation admitted to huge failures in it's response.
Yes, they did MUCH better this time. But Jindal is hardly to be credited for the improved response.
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