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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/04/us/maine-resident-struggles-to-heat-his-home.html?_r=1

In Fuel Oil Country, Cold That Cuts to the Heart

By DAN BARRY
Published: February 3, 2012

DIXFIELD, Me.

With the darkening approach of another ice-hard Saturday night in western Maine, the man on the telephone was pleading for help, again. His tank was nearly dry, and he and his disabled wife needed precious heating oil to keep warm. Could Ike help out? Again?

Ike Libby, the co-owner of a small oil company called Hometown Energy, ached for his customer, Robert Hartford. He knew what winter in Maine meant, especially for a retired couple living in a wood-frame house built in the 19th century. But he also knew that the Hartfords already owed him more than $700 for two earlier deliveries.

The oil man said he was very sorry. The customer said he understood. And each was left to grapple with a matter so mundane in Maine, and so vital: the need for heat. For the rest of the weekend, Mr. Libby agonized over his decision, while Mr. Hartford warmed his house with the heat from his electric stove’s four burners.

“You get off the phone thinking, ‘Are these people going to be found frozen?’ ” Mr. Libby said. No wonder, he said, that he is prescribed medication for stress and “happy pills” for equilibrium.

Two days later, Mr. Libby told his two office workers about his decision. Diane Carlton works the front desk while her daughter-in-law, Janis, handles accounts. But they share the job of worrying about Ike, whose heart, they say, is too big for his bantam size and, maybe, this business.

The Hartford case “ate him,” Janice Carlton recalled. “It just ate him.”

Mr. Libby drove off to make deliveries in his oil truck, a rolling receptacle of crumpled coffee cups and cigarette packs. Diane Carlton, the office’s mother hen, went home early. This meant that Janis Carlton was alone when their customer, Mr. Hartford, stepped in from the cold. He had something in his hand: the title to his 16-year-old Lincoln Town Car.

Would Hometown Energy take the title as collateral for some heating oil? Please?

Maine is in the midst of its Republican presidential caucus, the state’s wintry moment in the battle for the country’s future. But at this time of year, almost nothing matters here as much as basic heat.
 
Just....as a point of information.....

You do realize it's illegal (against digital media copyright laws) to post an entire article on this website, yes?

By law you can post a snip (short quote) with a link to the original content.

(at least for now)
 
It's not the point, at worst its an accidental side effect.
Once makes it a side effect. When done millions of times, after you've been warned that this could happen, makes it no longer a side effect or an accident.

Social Darwinism is also a well-known motive.
 
Just....as a point of information.....

You do realize it's illegal (against digital media copyright laws) to post an entire article on this website, yes?
Then, as I told another Litster who made this claim years ago, call the FBI or the copyright police or whoever. Otherwise don't even bother with such nonsense claims.

If you believe that, then take action.
 
Then, as I told another Litster who made this claim years ago, call the FBI or the copyright police or whoever. Otherwise don't even bother with such nonsense claims.

If you believe that, then take action.

Well. It's not an issue with what I believe - it's the truth.

That being said, it's highly unlikely that anyone will stop you.

The vast majority of writers who produce web content get paid (and very little) by page view - even those who write for websites like the Times. When you post entire articles, you cheat those overworked and underpaid American laborers out of what little residual money they make.

Turning a blind eye to freelance writers and their legal writes is.....pretty capitalistic of you, actually. Since I know you're against that in all its forms, I figured you'd care.
 
No LJ. It doesn't matter how many times you've been told or how many times it happens it's still a side effect. That's like claiming that McDonalds goal is to kill people. After all they've been warned that overweight people have more heart attacks and it's happened millions of times yet they still serve delicious delicious french fries and sub-par burgers with more calories than we ought eat in a day. Still they aren't trying to kill us if they had their way we'd live forever and buy even more.

Just....as a point of information.....

You do realize it's illegal (against digital media copyright laws) to post an entire article on this website, yes?

By law you can post a snip (short quote) with a link to the original content.

(at least for now)

He didn't post the entire article.
 
Quote the law please.

It's 18 pages long. You can read it here, if that's actually what you want to do:

http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf

My point was never to "catch" him. I think a lot of people simply don't know that it's illegal. I also think that repeated violation by people who are unaware is what leads us dangerously close to having things like SOPA and PIPA made into law.

Be well. Carry on. It's virtually impossible that anyone who matters will ever catch you or care.
 
Well. It's not an issue with what I believe - it's the truth.

That being said, it's highly unlikely that anyone will stop you.

The vast majority of writers who produce web content get paid (and very little) by page view - even those who write for websites like the Times. When you post entire articles, you cheat those overworked and underpaid American laborers out of what little residual money they make.

Turning a blind eye to freelance writers and their legal writes is.....pretty capitalistic of you, actually. Since I know you're against that in all its forms, I figured you'd care.


I've been fighting this particular battle for years here. Believe it or not, it used to be worse, though we still have our share of habitual offenders.

Anyone who lives in rural Maine needs to get something that burns wood. They're not running out of trees anytime soon.
 
Then, as I told another Litster who made this claim years ago, call the FBI or the copyright police or whoever. Otherwise don't even bother with such nonsense claims.

If you believe that, then take action.[/QUOTE]

You could also take action consistent with your beliefs and disburse some of your immense wealth to the fuel oil agent so that he would be able to fill the tanks of the needy seniors.

No? didn't think so. Troll away.
 
Are you really this stupid? Even if LJ wanted to that's just one family. There are according the article 65k people who need this help and that requires if not everybody more than just one person doing something.
 
Are you really this stupid? Even if LJ wanted to that's just one family. There are according the article 65k people who need this help and that requires if not everybody more than just one person doing something.

I think it's great that he wants to bring attention to an article he thinks is important. There's a perfectly legal and appropriate way to do that. Wronging one person in the name of helping others is still wrong.

I like you, Sean, and I don't want to get into stuff here.

Bottom line...this is my feeling. Sites like Literotica are a haven for free speech, and it's incumbent upon all of us to protect the site because it's valuable and of a type that's becoming increasingly rare. Everyone here is an adult. That means we need to be cautious in adhering to guidelines, erring on the side of caution, rather than seeing what we can get away with and how far we can push the envelope. Don't think, even for a second, there aren't people out there looking for excuses to shut sites like this down. Let's not give them any.

I'm done here :) You guys have a good evening!
 
I think it's great that he wants to bring attention to an article he thinks is important. There's a perfectly legal and appropriate way to do that. Wronging one person in the name of helping others is still wrong.

I like you, Sean, and I don't want to get into stuff here.

Bottom line...this is my feeling. Sites like Literotica are a haven for free speech, and it's incumbent upon all of us to protect the site because it's valuable and of a type that's becoming increasingly rare. Everyone here is an adult. That means we need to be cautious in adhering to guidelines, erring on the side of caution, rather than seeing what we can get away with and how far we can push the envelope. Don't think, even for a second, there aren't people out there looking for excuses to shut sites like this down. Let's not give them any.

I'm done here :) You guys have a good evening!


The are you stupid comment wasn't at you, it was at the poster previous to my last post.
 
Are you really this stupid? Even if LJ wanted to that's just one family. There are according the article 65k people who need this help and that requires if not everybody more than just one person doing something.

Let's revisit stupid here for a moment.

If you had taken the time to actually think about the post it might well have been evident to one other than a dolt that there was a challenge to LT's ethics and scruples.

It doesn't matter if he only helps one household, or 65,000. It is acting on his beliefs.
And if the rest of the similar LT bleeding socialists felt the way you obviously do by defending him then no one in need anywhere would be helped.
 
Let's revisit stupid here for a moment.

If you had taken the time to actually think about the post it might well have been evident to one other than a dolt that there was a challenge to LT's ethics and scruples.

It doesn't matter if he only helps one household, or 65,000. It is acting on his beliefs.
And if the rest of the similar LT bleeding socialists felt the way you obviously do by defending him then no one in need anywhere would be helped.

Awe so cute. It thinks it's a people!

I did actually think about it and the facts are simple people by and large are not altruistic. The only way to solve a problem like this is to work en mass and yes that means forcing you to pay a part of it as well.
 
At a 52% direct income tax rate I already do pay, and that works out to more than 50% of the US population earns in a year.
And if you wish to know how that rate is possible, do your own fucking research on the Canadian tax system.
 
I don't even know what to say about that. I don't honestly care WHAT you pay in taxes. 50%. 5%. 0%. I'm actually more interested in the results. You can move down into the States if you want, you'll pay less taxes and you'll mostly be away from those bleeding heart socialist. I mean say what you want about American Democrats we don't have shit on the average Canadian.
 
Well. It's not an issue with what I believe - it's the truth.
I call bullshit. I challenge anyone who thinks I'm wrong to show me in the only way that is even remotely meaningful. Call in the law. If there is any law to use against me then you could spit in any direction on Lit and find volunteers to make use of it.

If a big fat General Board's-most-wanted fugitive like me can't be hit with this law then it is clearly bullshit.
 
No LJ. It doesn't matter how many times you've been told or how many times it happens it's still a side effect. That's like claiming that McDonalds goal is to kill people. After all they've been warned that overweight people have more heart attacks and it's happened millions of times yet they still serve delicious delicious french fries and sub-par burgers with more calories than we ought eat in a day. Still they aren't trying to kill us if they had their way we'd live forever and buy even more.
No, it's more like you've been warned not to drive down 5th street at 60mph in the morning because kids are crossing the road. How does the court see your behavior after the 10,000th time you plowed through a group of kids racing through there? That ain't no accident, son.

He didn't post the entire article.
Fuck you, man! I was leading him/her on!! You ruined my punchline. :(
 
Are you really this stupid? Even if LJ wanted to that's just one family. There are according the article 65k people who need this help and that requires if not everybody more than just one person doing something.
I donate a lot of money to various causes. I wonder what these other posters do...
 
A law being unenforced or unenforcable doesn't make it not a law. We all know we are commiting theft when download a movie or song we just simply don't care.
 
I don't even know what to say about that. I don't honestly care WHAT you pay in taxes. 50%. 5%. 0%. I'm actually more interested in the results. You can move down into the States if you want, you'll pay less taxes and you'll mostly be away from those bleeding heart socialist. I mean say what you want about American Democrats we don't have shit on the average Canadian.


Agreed to bolded.

Which is why I am not giving anymore, I already give more than a fair share of earnings to the sytem used to support others.
 
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