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MasterPhoenix

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"Fictional people roleplaying underage sex is the same thing as fictional underage sex"

BLAH
 
MasterPhoenix said:
"Fictional people roleplaying underage sex is the same thing as fictional underage sex"

BLAH


Well, damn. If that's really the case, I bet a lot of people on this board should be incarcerated. Minus, you know, the fictional part. Not that I don't feel a bit fictional from time to time myself.

Sewwwiously though, the fictional roleplay = fictional reality thing seems a bit ridiculous, especially considering the egregiously illegal things a lot of erotic story characters do which aren't roleplay.

But I don't run Literotica; I'm sure they have their reasons which someone will be glad to inform me of.
 
MasterPhoenix said:
"Fictional people roleplaying underage sex is the same thing as fictional underage sex"

BLAH

ah..i get it..ADULTS roleplaying age play is not allowed, but stories about incest are ok..as long as the child is 18?? yea..makes a lot of sense to me :rolleyes:
 
The site is just making sure to cover its legal ass, so that it can continue running... the current political climate isn't exactly accepting of certain things- even if the things in question are figments of one's imagination.
 
CutieMouse said:
The site is just making sure to cover its legal ass, so that it can continue running... the current political climate isn't exactly accepting of certain things- even if the things in question are figments of one's imagination.

while i do understand this, there are ALOT of stories on Lit about incest, and those are ok? that's the part i don't get. the story He submitted was NOT about incest, nor was it about a little girl and a 'Daddy' there was no age given, and in it it even said something about her 'gray' hair and how she loved that her boyfriend became her "Daddy" there were plenty of 'hints' in there to tell you that these were ADULTS playing roles..that was my point....
 
IM is good for what isn't allowed at Lit.

Been there, done that.

Fury :rose:
 
MasterPhoenix said:
"Fictional people roleplaying underage sex is the same thing as fictional underage sex"

BLAH
Where as I don't know the whole story on this, I agree with Fury that Laruel is only watching out for her web site's well fiar. She has to look at things as the "head up their ass" establishment people do, stroking whatever she has to. She knows the laws...what works and what doesn't.

I've not had a story rejected, but I did have one placed in a catagory I didn't think it should have been in. I PM'd her and asked about it. She told me why it had been placed there and I disputed her reasons. I pointed out to her that any issues she had about the story were explained away any in the first chapter.

She eventually agreed to move the story, and everything has been fine, since. I'd suggest talking to her to find out what she thinks needs to be done to make the story OK to publish on Lit's site. If you dispute her, make sure you do it with respect, so to make sure she listens to your point of view.

Ultimately, what she says goes, so you don't want to piss her off. You want to reason with her and negociate with her to find a common ground you both can live with. Maybe a disclaimer at the beginning of the story would be OK...or maybe explaining more that the characters are adult age, just pretending.

Oh, I know you might think it is obvious, as is, but remember she isn't the enemy. She is just looking out to stay within the guidelines she has to , to survive herself. And, even if you don't find a middle ground you can agree with, at least you can try. She isn't a stick in the mud. She will listen to any reasonable and sensable argument, brought forward with respect.
 
There is a disclaimer...

What I was told was that "fictional people engaging in underage role play sex is the same as fictional underage sex."

I do understand that there is a whole hysteria happening on 'child porn' and Laurel has to protect her site...

There was a disclaimer at the beginning... *shrugz*

It is her site, and I don't know her and am not going to flame her. She makes the decisions, and thats cool. I only posted this thread cuz I told you all I had one submitted, and thought you all were curious on whether it was accepted.
 
Maybe the stories about incest that make it through the screening process, make it through the screening process *because* they blatantly point out all participants are at least 18 years old- it might be momentarily disruptive to the story, but at least the story gets published.

Some twit who has their panties in a wad, and is looking for a reason to shut down Lit, isn't going to read a story carefully enough to see the words "gray hair"- they're going to skim a story that has no mention of age, and go ballistic because the story supposidly is encouraging underage sex/kink/what have you.
 
CutieMouse said:
Maybe the stories about incest that make it through the screening process, make it through the screening process *because* they blatantly point out all participants are at least 18 years old- it might be momentarily disruptive to the story, but at least the story gets published.

Some twit who has their panties in a wad, and is looking for a reason to shut down Lit, isn't going to read a story carefully enough to see the words "gray hair"- they're going to skim a story that has no mention of age, and go ballistic because the story supposidly is encouraging underage sex/kink/what have you.

but that's just it..it DID blatantly point out in the disclaimer at the beginning of the story that the story was about ADULTS....and also throughout the story it re-enforced that point with things like talking about her 'gray' hair and so on....
 
CutieMouse said:
Maybe the stories about incest that make it through the screening process, make it through the screening process *because* they blatantly point out all participants are at least 18 years old- it might be momentarily disruptive to the story, but at least the story gets published.

Some twit who has their panties in a wad, and is looking for a reason to shut down Lit, isn't going to read a story carefully enough to see the words "gray hair"- they're going to skim a story that has no mention of age, and go ballistic because the story supposidly is encouraging underage sex/kink/what have you.

I understand what you are saying CM, and like I said above it is her site, her rules.

I did put a dislcaimer in the beginning stating clearly that the participants were of age.... But rules are rules...
 
MasterPhoenix said:
I understand what you are saying CM, and like I said above it is her site, her rules.

I did put a dislcaimer in the beginning stating clearly that the participants were of age.... But rules are rules...
You still might ask her if she thinks it's possible to rewrite it and have it be accepted, without losing the story you intended.
 
Okay, I thought you were talking about SRP not a story, sorry about that.

If the people are role playing but are clearly adults it "should" be okay IMO not that my opinion counts for much as I don't own the site and it's not my ass on the line.

In any case, you could still let some of us read it via PM!

hint

Hint

Fury :rose:
 
DVS said:
You still might ask her if she thinks it's possible to rewrite it and have it be accepted, without losing the story you intended.

In the message I got, it said that it could be rewritten...

Buit if I were to take out the roleplay it would lose the effect I was going for...
 
FurryFury said:
Okay, I thought you were talking about SRP not a story, sorry about that.

If the people are role playing but are clearly adults it "should" be okay IMO not that my opinion counts for much as I don't own the site and it's not my ass on the line.

In any case, you could still let some of us read it via PM!

hint

Hint

Fury :rose:

*giggles* a not so subtle 'hint' ......it's a great story, it really really is. though i like 'date with Daddy' better, but couldn't get Him to post that one as it's a first draft and He thinks it needs work *shrugs*
 
lil_slave_rose said:
*giggles* a not so subtle 'hint' ......it's a great story, it really really is. though i like 'date with Daddy' better, but couldn't get Him to post that one as it's a first draft and He thinks it needs work *shrugs*

Hehehe!

I never said I was subtle. Though I certainly can be.

*winks*

Fury :rose:
 
You wouldn't necessarily need to take out the role play, just make a point to mention adult ages, at some point early in the body of the text.
 
CutieMouse said:
You wouldn't necessarily need to take out the role play, just make a point to mention adult ages, at some point early in the body of the text.

Actually, according to the message I got "Because there is no difference between fictional underage sex and fictional people pretending to be underage, we do not allow underage sexual roleplay stories just as we don't allow underage sexual fiction."

I take that to mean that even if I were specific in mentioning their ages, the role-play is a NO NO.
 
MasterPhoenix said:
Actually, according to the message I got "Because there is no difference between fictional underage sex and fictional people pretending to be underage, we do not allow underage sexual roleplay stories just as we don't allow underage sexual fiction."

I take that to mean that even if I were specific in mentioning their ages, the role-play is a NO NO.


I guess I'm just feeling dense, because I'm not understanding the problem here... The characters in real life must be over 18; the role play characters they evolve into, must also be over 18. They can be 21 year olds engaging in baby diaper play; they can be 18 year olds playing teacher/student; they can't be 18-21 year olds pretending they are elementary school kids fooling around in the bushes during recess.
 
CutieMouse said:
I guess I'm just feeling dense, because I'm not understanding the problem here... The characters in real life must be over 18; the role play characters they evolve into, must also be over 18. They can be 21 year olds engaging in baby diaper play; they can be 18 year olds playing teacher/student; they can't be 18-21 year olds pretending they are elementary school kids fooling around in the bushes during recess.

There is never a determined age for the female character's role play, but she takes on charicterists of a young teenager & is calling the other character daddy...
 
myinnerslut said:
if i ask really nicely, can you PM me a copy also?

*pleasepleaseplease*

Its in your PM box...

IF anyone else would like to read it, just ask. :D
 
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