Random thought...

[sr71plt]

I didn't realize that Lord of the Rings was submitting to Literotica. If not, any comparisons of what is acceptable where isn't absurd, it's just irrelevant.

There are lots of topics published in the mainstream without trouble that don't meet the selection criteria of this privately owned/run Web site, the criteria being based on whatever the owners want to base it on.

 

[Quiet_Cool]

I didn't realize that Lord of the Rings was submitting to Literotica. If not, any comparisons of what is acceptable where isn't absurd, it's just irrelevant.

There are lots of topics published in the mainstream without trouble that don't meet the selection criteria of this privately owned/run Web site, the criteria being based on whatever the owners want to base it on.

Out of curiosity, what the fuck are you talking about?

Q_C

 

[sr71plt]

I was talking about what can be posted at Literotica. This IS the Literotica Web site, isn't it?

Not any more off the wall than equating an Italian man to bestiality just because he's furry and fucking someone.

 

[Quiet_Cool]

I was talking about what can be posted at Literotica. This IS the Literotica Web site, isn't it?

Not any more off the wall than equating an Italian man to bestiality just because he's furry and fucking someone.

Ahh...

Well, the confusion we're having is such: Furry and fucking were equated as such with Italian men for humor, as you seem to have noticed, and because they were mentioned previously by another poster. Your previous post seems to have missed the part where judgment of beastiality was being examined non-related to its legality or promotion by the site in question.

Fair?

Q_C

 

[sr71plt]

Fine. Carry on.

 

[Acktion]

On a note completely unrelated to Angora Shoulders... and a completely different random thought... (but I was loathe to go to the trouble of starting a new thread)

(My mind works (or doesn't) in ways that are a mystery even to me.)

At the risk of letting my geek show a little much, I was just discussing Star Wars with someone on the heels of discussing incestuous relationships with someone else.

Now, most people, I think, know that Luke and Leia are brother and sister and the offspring of Anakin (Vader) by this point that give a crap (assuming they didn't know what "Darth Vader" translated as). (Whoops, should I have typed "spoiler alert"?)

And I think most people are aware of Leia giving Luke a kiss on Hoth to make Han jealous which made the walls melt a little and sort of ignored it/forgot about it when "Return of the Jedi" made clear once and for all that they were siblings.

However, I remember a book titled "Splinter in the Minds Eye" by Alan Dean Foster.

(I'll admit that it was Foster instead of Lucas that penned it, but Lucas is almost as infamous in geekdom for retaining careful control over the Star Wars domain as he is for bad dialogue.)

(yes, yes, "what sort of geek reads Star Wars instead of watching it?" Just roll with me here.)

Set between Episode IV ("A New Hope") and Episode V ("The Empire Strikes Back"), Luke and Leia are on a mission and are the only two people (so far as we know) on a jungle type planet.

As I recall (since I can't find the damn thing in my shelves), there was a very tender and romantic cut scene between the two with the implication that something more than just a tender first kiss and sleeping in each others arms between the roots of a huge tree with moss hanging from it.

Ok. Why do I suddenly empathize with the friend who I laughed at and said "Well, of course Elton John is gay! You didn't know?!"

 

[Hypoxia]

At least Chewie wasn't Italian.

 

[Acktion]

Laugh it up, fuzzball.

 

[Handley_Page]

Kind of an x-rated version of that Jerry Lewis movie, where he goes between being a klutz and a suave ladies' man?

I think it's "the Nutty Professor".
I loved that film!

 

[slyc_willie]

(yes, yes, "what sort of geek reads Star Wars instead of watching it?" Just roll with me here.)

You'd be surprised by how popular the various Star Wars book series are. Some have even been adopted into the "official" canon of the Star Wars universe. Especially now, since Lucas isn't in charge anymore.

Set between Episode IV ("A New Hope") and Episode V ("The Empire Strikes Back"), Luke and Leia are on a mission and are the only two people (so far as we know) on a jungle type planet.

As I recall (since I can't find the damn thing in my shelves), there was a very tender and romantic cut scene between the two with the implication that something more than just a tender first kiss and sleeping in each others arms between the roots of a huge tree with moss hanging from it.

It could be that Lucas didn't "get" the implication of a more intimate relationship between Luke and Leia. Or, maybe you read too much into it. Lucas might also have trusted that Foster (who wrote the official adaptions of the films) wouldn't take any characters further than they had gone in the films, and therefore didn't look too closely at the book.

 

[Acktion]

Oh, I'll be the first to admit that it's entirely possible that I read more into the scene than was actually there. Particularly since I still can't find my damn copy and once eidetic memory has started to blur. And admittedly, I was only... um... well... that is to say... (Starts counting on fingers). Um, I don't suppose you'd believe I was a fetus when it was written? No, I suppose not.

However, I do remember the kiss and Foster's portrayal of it vividly. It didn't have near the heat that Fisher and Hamil took to the big screen in Episode V. I'd have rocked back with my arms behind my head and looked pretty damn cocky too!

However, it had a very unique flavor of that trembling uncertainty when two young people with very little experience share a kiss with someone they are attracted to and whom they are coming to realize is attracted to them. And... DAMN, why can I find just about every book in the SW universe EXCEPT that one?

 

[slyc_willie]

Oh, I'll be the first to admit that it's entirely possible that I read more into the scene than was actually there. Particularly since I still can't find my damn copy and once eidetic memory has started to blur. And admittedly, I was only... um... well... that is to say... (Starts counting on fingers). Um, I don't suppose you'd believe I was a fetus when it was written? No, I suppose not.

However, I do remember the kiss and Foster's portrayal of it vividly. It didn't have near the heat that Fisher and Hamil took to the big screen in Episode V. I'd have rocked back with my arms behind my head and looked pretty damn cocky too!

However, it had a very unique flavor of that trembling uncertainty when two young people with very little experience share a kiss with someone they are attracted to and whom they are coming to realize is attracted to them. And... DAMN, why can I find just about every book in the SW universe EXCEPT that one?

Personally, I didn't think the kiss on-screen was all that hot, and I saw it in the theater when it originally came out. It seemed pretty mechanical to me. But that could just be my own memory playing tricks. ETA: No, I don't think my memory was faulty. Check out the clip in the next post.

Considering that Lucas, of course, knew the full story of Star Wars when Empire Strikes Back was filmed, and the actors didn't, he was probably very judicious in portraying the kiss more as a "here's a stick in your eye, Han" as opposed to Leia having the hots for the guy who eventually turns out to be her twin. Foster, of course, would not have been told any more about the series than anyone else knew at the time, so anything he wrote that went outside the scope of the films falls into a canonical grey area.

I've read quite a bit of Alan Dean Foster's work and he does like to hint at sexual relationships between characters. He wrote for a mainly juvenile audience, however, so he didn't want to go too far.

 

[slyc_willie]

Just found this on YouTube. Pretty funny.

The Kiss

 

[Acktion]

ROFLMAO

Ayup. That's the movie kiss. I guess I must not have ever been kissed really, really well if that seemed mechanical because it seemed pretty... *ahem*... significant to me. Well, about as significant as it could be with her feet on the floor.

(Note; generally in my own "significant" kisses, neither person had BOTH feet on the floor. )

Seriously, though, I wish I could find that book. I even found one of the books about Han and Leia's children (and I'm blaming that one on the grandkids), but not that one. (and yes, I have been rooting through boxes of paperbacks off and on today)

What you say does make an infinite amount of sense. Particularly as it went to press in ... '78? '79? And especially if Foster knew about the upcoming "tension" between them in "Empire" but not the revelations in "Return".

 

[slyc_willie]

ROFLMAO

Ayup. That's the movie kiss. I guess I must not have ever been kissed really, really well if that seemed mechanical because it seemed pretty... *ahem*... significant to me. Well, about as significant as it could be with her feet on the floor.

(Note; generally in my own "significant" kisses, neither person had BOTH feet on the floor. )

Seriously, though, I wish I could find that book. I even found one of the books about Han and Leia's children (and I'm blaming that one on the grandkids), but not that one. (and yes, I have been rooting through boxes of paperbacks off and on today)

What you say does make an infinite amount of sense. Particularly as it went to press in ... '78? '79? And especially if Foster knew about the upcoming "tension" between them in "Empire" but not the revelations in "Return".

Obviously, it comes down to perception regarding the kiss. I remember, after having seen the film, my friends and I debated who Leia would end up with. Most of us thought Luke would wind up being the lucky guy. I said it would be Han. We were quite shocked with the revelations of Return of the Jedi. In hindsight, the whole story is very fairy tale-esque, and had we understood that then, we might have seen the twist coming. But Lucas was pretty good at diverting attention through stunning graphics and terrible dialogue.

You may or may not know, but Han and Leia's marriage and subsequent birthing of twins is recognized as part of the official canon of the Star Wars universe. Now that Episode 7 is on it's way (slated for 2015), there's a lot of speculation that the next trilogy will focus on them.

Yeah, I'm a Star Wars geek. Can't ya tell?

 

[Acktion]

I had to officially turn in my geek card the day I couldn't remember the model of landspeeder Luke sold in Episode IV to hire Han and Chewie during a trivia contest. Sad day.

Actually, my reasons for voting for Han weren't near as well thought out. Since Han had brown hair and I had brown hair and Luke had blonde hair and my pain-in-the-ass-best friend had blonde hair, OBVIOUSLY Han was the better choice.

I can't regret that that I didn't capture the hand of "our Leia" instead since I wouldn't have met my wife. Still, I don't know if I would have minded if it had turned out they were brother and sister too in our little RL spinoff.

 

[slyc_willie]

I had to officially turn in my geek card the day I couldn't remember the model of landspeeder Luke sold in Episode IV to hire Han and Chewie during a trivia contest. Sad day.

Actually, my reasons for voting for Han weren't near as well thought out. Since Han had brown hair and I had brown hair and Luke had blonde hair and my pain-in-the-ass-best friend had blonde hair, OBVIOUSLY Han was the better choice.

I can't regret that that I didn't capture the hand of "our Leia" instead since I wouldn't have met my wife. Still, I don't know if I would have minded if it had turned out they were brother and sister too in our little RL spinoff.

It was an X-34. And no, I didn't Google it.

Hey, the reasons don't matter so much as the outcome. You voted for the right guy.

As for the last part . . . there is Luke/Leia incest fanfic out there . . . .

 

[Acktion]

Lol... actually, I was thinking more along the lines of she would have gone to the prom with me instead.

 

[slyc_willie]

Lol... actually, I was thinking more along the lines of she would have gone to the prom with me instead.

Ah, gotcha. Well, seeing as how Leia was seventeen in A New Hope, that would have put her at prom age.