R.I.P., Muhammad Ali (1/17/42 - 6/3/16)

I enjoyed watching Ali fight, back when fights were on network television. He was a fantastic boxer, and fun to listen to.

I wonder what would have happened if Frazier had not thrown in the towel in the Thrilla in Manilla.
 
This is must-watch

Jeremy Schaap And Bob Ley Telling Muhammad Ali Stories At 4 A.M. Is Must-See TV

ESPN’s Bob Ley and Jeremy Schaap are two of the network’s best, and the pair anchored hours of Muhammad Ali coverage in the very early morning that few—other than west-coast insomniacs—were able to see. That’s a shame, because the two engaged in a tremendous discussion of the boxer’s legacy and shared some lesser-known stories about The Greatest. We picked out just a portion of their coverage that we thought was especially exemplary.

ETA: It even has Vin Scully telling simulcast viewers the news.
 
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I enjoyed watching Ali fight, back when fights were on network television. He was a fantastic boxer, and fun to listen to.

I wonder what would have happened if Frazier had not thrown in the towel in the Thrilla in Manilla.

*laughing* wow, you're OLD! ;)
 
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Tuesday, September 11, 2012

Elvis and Muhammad Ali

I painted this double-page spread about a year ago, for a special book on Elvis featuring artwork from comic book illustrators. I was excited to participate, and when they told me they'd like an illustration focusing on Elvis and Ali's friendship but in a "Batman and Robin action scene", I knew this would be extra fun to work on. - Michael Cho


http://chodrawings.blogspot.com/2012/09/elvis-and-muhammad-ali.html
 
I enjoyed watching Ali fight, back when fights were on network television. He was a fantastic boxer, and fun to listen to.

I wonder what would have happened if Frazier had not thrown in the towel in the Thrilla in Manilla.

"Thrown in the towel"!?!?!!?? Are you crazy?? That fight was a war. It is amazing either man was standing at the end. Frazier's corner simply did the humanitarian thing. Ali had won the fight and there was nothing left for either man to prove.
 
"Thrown in the towel"!?!?!!?? Are you crazy?? That fight was a war. It is amazing either man was standing at the end. Frazier's corner simply did the humanitarian thing. Ali had won the fight and there was nothing left for either man to prove.

Do you think it unfair of Ali to label Joe a Tom?
 
Good news:

After his last loss as a pro simply for lunch money and with Parkinson's already starting its ravishment upon him, Clay/Lip/X/Ali evidently finally fell into financially able hands who immediately used his disease to create a Foundation to fight it, a Foundation which has reportedly raised $112 million since its creation. Along with that and endorsements, evidently, there is estimated to be a $50- $80 million fortune left to be divided up.

Bad news:

That divvying up looks to be very challenging as the deceased has a brother, a wife, 3 ex-wives wives, 9 known legitimate children, and a reported unknown number of illegitimate offspring who are all entitled to a cut of the champ's final purse.
 
Last shots of The Champ

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His daughter said that his heart kept beating a half hour after total organ failure. The Champ fought until his last breath. They told him it was OK to let go.
 
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While I pray for the salvation of Ali's soul, hearing all these accolades seems excessive to me. For one, my dad was worthy of more adulation than Ali. All this talk about him being loving and peaceful and kind really isn't true. He was an adulterer and had children as the result of extramarital affairs. I'll bet the women he professed his love to don't think he was so great. He was a boxer. A violent man. It seems inconsistent with is reputation as a "peace-lover". I think it is legitimate to doubt his asssertion that he was a conscientious objector to the Viet Nam War. I think it's possible that he didn't want to fight. So yes, he was a great fighter/entertainer. He was a deeply flawed human being, with a highly selective sense of morality. He was a sports icon. I think he was trying to use his celebrity for good purposes. I'm sorry he became ill and I'm sorry he passed away. I pray for his family and friends. But aside from his physical abilities and celebrity, he was not so special.
 
While I pray for the salvation of Ali's soul, hearing all these accolades seems excessive to me. For one, my dad was worthy of more adulation than Ali. All this talk about him being loving and peaceful and kind really isn't true. He was an adulterer and had children as the result of extramarital affairs. I'll bet the women he professed his love to don't think he was so great. He was a boxer. A violent man. It seems inconsistent with is reputation as a "peace-lover". I think it is legitimate to doubt his asssertion that he was a conscientious objector to the Viet Nam War. I think it's possible that he didn't want to fight. So yes, he was a great fighter/entertainer. He was a deeply flawed human being, with a highly selective sense of morality. He was a sports icon. I think he was trying to use his celebrity for good purposes. I'm sorry he became ill and I'm sorry he passed away. I pray for his family and friends. But aside from his physical abilities and celebrity, he was not so special.

I don't disagree with everything in your post but I will point out that like all of us, yes he was a flawed human being. Like some of us Ali evolved throughout his life. What made him great outside of the ring was his ability to be one of the biggest international celebrities. He carried that responsibility with dignity and class.

As far as Nam, let's give him credit for not shitting his pants at the draft office like some GOP heroes. He stood up, refused service and paid a price.

My biggest problem with Ali is him siding with Elijah Muhammad rather than Malcolm X.
 
I got his autograph laying around somewhere. Not worth the paper it's written on and I don't normally collect stuff like that but I'll keep it and give it to one of the kids to keep after I'm gone just cuz of who it is.
 
I don't disagree with everything in your post but I will point out that like all of us, yes he was a flawed human being. Like some of us Ali evolved throughout his life. What made him great outside of the ring was his ability to be one of the biggest international celebrities. He carried that responsibility with dignity and class.

As far as Nam, let's give him credit for not shitting his pants at the draft office like some GOP heroes. He stood up, refused service and paid a price.

My biggest problem with Ali is him siding with Elijah Muhammad rather than Malcolm X.

I agree with what you said about the way he managed his celebrated status. And I do count myself amng his fans as a boxer, and after his boxing career.
 
Amen

While I pray for the salvation of Ali's soul, hearing all these accolades seems excessive to me. For one, my dad was worthy of more adulation than Ali. All this talk about him being loving and peaceful and kind really isn't true. He was an adulterer and had children as the result of extramarital affairs. I'll bet the women he professed his love to don't think he was so great. He was a boxer. A violent man. It seems inconsistent with is reputation as a "peace-lover". I think it is legitimate to doubt his asssertion that he was a conscientious objector to the Viet Nam War. I think it's possible that he didn't want to fight. So yes, he was a great fighter/entertainer. He was a deeply flawed human being, with a highly selective sense of morality. He was a sports icon. I think he was trying to use his celebrity for good purposes. I'm sorry he became ill and I'm sorry he passed away. I pray for his family and friends. But aside from his physical abilities and celebrity, he was not so special.

AMEN
I couldn't have said it better. I live 10 minutes from where he was born and raised. I lived thru his fights. He was a great fighter until near the end of his career. Like most of us, he did some good things with his life. Ask his X wives how good a fellow he was. The Huge TO DO, here in the Louisville area was way overblown. Thousands lined the streets of Louisville for his funeral procession. For better and for worse, the Muslims had a hold on him, his entire adult life. He learned a lot of the Muslim teachings which were of peaceful way of life.
I agree, May His Soul Rest In Peace. :rose:
 
Thank you Billy Crystal for making your eulogy all about YOU! Holy cow....

Love Billy Crystal but man O man....
 
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