Quit my Job?

[ms.read]

What would you do as an employer if you saw this? An employee in the same field?

I am just wondering because I am seriously considering quitting my job ( once I have a new one in place)

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Dear Employer,

I have been a dedicated, loyal, and caring employee for over two years. While working with your company hasn't exactly been a pleasure, I love what I do and strive to get better. As of today, I formally resign from the company. Consider this your two week notice.

Both my coworkers and management need to work on thier interpersonal skills. No one should have to work in a hostile environment. When I go to work I do not expect to be treated poorly, ran ragged, and then expect to come back with a smile on my face.

I suggest you give everyone at this place of employment a serious and thorough reevaluation due to:

• Lack of respect
• No Teamwork
• No accountability
• No set responsibilities of Floor Care Personel
• improper documentation/charting or lack thereof
• Medication errors that may or may not have harmed the consumer.
• Medication ommissions.
• Poor hygiene and possible skin breakdown of the clientele due to persons on the floor not taking care of consumers
• Employees calling out repeatedly
• Injuries to the Clientele due to lack of supervision by employees.

In closing, I would like to thank you for giving me experience in the nursing field. By working with your company, I have gained skill in:

• Patience and Humility
• Patience and Humility
• Patience and Humility
• Assessing situations and applying that skill in order to extricate myself from dangerous or hostile environment.
• Using a smile in all dialogue between consumer and service provider.
• Having a caring manner with all people, but knowing when to say no.
  

Sincerely, Ms.Read

 

[neonlyte]

I'd 'bin it' Ms.Read and employ an agency nurse. It does you no credit and the employer learns nothing about the reasons for your resignation.

Your letter should be addressed to the Senior Manager of the unit you work for requesting a meeting to discuss workplace issues to improve the working relationship, increase staff efficiency, and to address Health and Safety issues for clients and staff.

This format raises issues a responsible management cannot ignore. If you then decide to quit because they refuse to address the issues, you would have reasonable claim for 'constructive dismissal', i.e. you could not continue working in the face of management ignoring critical issues in the workplace. Might make sense to document a few of these before you have a face-to-face meeting. You need to go in with at least one indisputable record of error that a 'reasonable employer' could have both foreseen and prevented through the application of due diligence.

Best of luck - don't let the issue cloud your NaNo writing.

 

[scheherazade_79]

I was once in a similarish position, albeit in a different field, so have some hugs, ms.read

It depends what you want to achieve from the situation. Do you just want to be the hell away from there, or is it more important to you that you release what's built up inside you during your time working there?

When I wrote my last resignation letter, I made it so bland that it said everything that needed to be said. Literally -

"Dear Ms W,

As you are aware, my contract to teach (insert subject) expires on (insert date). I am writing to inform you that when this date comes I do not wish to extend my period of employment.

Thank you for the opportunity you gave me to teach at your school.

Zade"

And then I got the best revenge by living extremely well and getting a kick ass job between partying.

If you can handle the aggro that might bounce back onto you as a result of the letter, and think it might do good in changing the way things are, then go for it. Otherwise, give yourself a well-earned break and saunter out through the back door without glancing over your shoulder.

Good luck

Edited to add - When you quit a job you have no legal responsibility whatsoever to give a reason.

 

[neonlyte]

I'd agree with you, Zade, if this were simply an issue of 'wanting a change'. Apology, ms. read, for discussing this around you, as it were. I sense from the post there are serious issues requiring addressing, it is quite easy for management to shift workplace shortcomings onto a former employee, especially one who left with a 'bee in her bonnet'. If the issues are serious, they require addressing and the employee is obligated, if not least for her own reputation, to bring serious issues to management attention.

How's the partying?

 

[scheherazade_79]

I'd agree with you, Zade, if this were simply an issue of 'wanting a change'. Apology, ms. read, for discussing this around you, as it were. I sense from the post there are serious issues requiring addressing, it is quite easy for management to shift workplace shortcomings onto a former employee, especially one who left with a 'bee in her bonnet'. If the issues are serious, they require addressing and the employee is obligated, if not least for her own reputation, to bring serious issues to management attention.

How's the partying?

Depends how much good it's going to do. When things are that screwed up making a solo stand can be about as effective as pissing into the wind.

 

[neonlyte]

Depends how much good it's going to do. When things are that screwed up making a solo stand can be about as effective as pissing into the wind.

yeh... I get that. As a former employer, I always encouraged staff to help me improve my business believing there were always lessons I could learn.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

One Swallow Does Not Spring Make

MS.READ

Save your breath. The lesson is lost on such people. Youre one, lonesome swallow in a flock.

I've worked for over 40 years. In this time I've learned two truths about management: ONE, Managers react to crises, and TWO, Managers who fail to react to crises get fired.

I've never had a manager act on any of my grievances. They blow them off. After I leave the company I occasionally get hired back for more money. But not before the manager has a crisis on her hands.

 

[oggbashan]

As a former employer, if I received such a letter I'd accept the resignation but do nothing to change the situation.

Sounds harsh? Maybe.

But there were several ways, some anonymous, that could have been used by an employee working for me to express concerns. If they had not been used then I would consider that the employee had been remiss.

What would make me change my attitude?

A similar letter from someone with ten or more years' service who was regarded as a good employee or if the letter reinforced information I had already received from the other ways of expressing discontent.

Og

 

[starrkers]

MS.READ

Save your breath. The lesson is lost on such people. Youre one, lonesome swallow in a flock.

I've worked for over 40 years. In this time I've learned two truths about management: ONE, Managers react to crises, and TWO, Managers who fail to react to crises get fired.

I've never had a manager act on any of my grievances. They blow them off. After I leave the company I occasionally get hired back for more money. But not before the manager has a crisis on her hands.

I agree. Last place I worked fulltime I was the fourth of twelve to resign in an eight week period. Management put it down to the "transience" of my field. Six years later, of the 60 people who worked in that department, I recognised only 10 names. But the management was the same.

 

[neonlyte]

Hmm... perhaps this is why I've never worked for anyone else

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

STARKKERS

Youre correct. One of my daughters manages a law office. Their employee turnover is high, but she blows it off. She gets incredible incentives to get extra sweat from everyone....and she does. She thinks most employees are tumbleweeds. She just turned 30 and is building a 500K house.

If someone gave her a letter her response would be: "I hope you enjoy your new job."

 

[gauchecritic]

How often do you see a new face behind the counter at MCd's? Daily? How often do you see a new face behind the counter one week who's manager the week after?

McDonalds don't care about staff turnover, they just want to shift product, so within their contractual profligacy they can be as draconian as they like. But their product doesn't actually kill anybody.

Yours might. It seems to me that it behooves you to bring these things to the attention of the line management. Bear in mind Ogg's thoughts and take heed of Neon's advice.

Walking out won't make them change.

Are you in a union? Become a shop-steward.

If you have evidence that these practices are actually threatening customer's lives rather than nurses livelihoods then the directors need to know because it might cost them money.

 

[rgraham666]

I'd simply tell them good bye, ms. read.

That way you'll probably get a good recommendation from the employer you're leaving.

If you hand in this letter, the recommendation from your current employer will be, 'This person is a trouble maker.'

Not good.

 

[oggbashan]

Cleaning and resignation

On local TV last night was a hospital cleaner, from a hospital recently in the news for having serious problems with germ control that had contributed to the death of up to 90 people.

She said she had resigned because cleaners were not properly trained, nor were they given enough cleaning materials to do their job properly and that standards of cleanliness were still poor.

A hospital manager invited the TV company to tour the hospital and refuted the cleaner's claims in detail. He produced her training records and said:
1. at no time had she complained to anyone in authority about lack of cleaning materials and
2. the employee record showed that at no time in the two years she had been employed had any complaint been made by her about her lack of training nor about her inability to clean to a high standard because of lack of resources, or about anything.
3. her letter of resignation had not mentioned any of the items she raised with the TV company.

It was a comprehensive refutation of her claims. However the hospital's definition of adequate training was 1.5 days over two years. With the severe problems that the hospital had experienced I think that was insufficient.

Cleaning may be a low-skilled job, but hospital cleaning requires more than an office cleaner. I used to employ 60 cleaners. In one location the national pay scale meant that I was paying more than the local rate for specialist hospital cleaners so they came to work for me. My offices and workplaces were immaculate. We had scientific laboratories that required detailed knowledge of what could and could not be touched and what was dangerous. Every cleaner had a day's revision training each six-months and if transferred to another laboratory had a day's training by a senior cleaner supervised by one of the scientists from that laboratory.

I had a problem in London. The rate of pay, even with a London addition, was lower than office cleaning companies would pay. One solution was to employ over-age, i.e older than 65, cleaners because the office cleaning companies would retire them at 65. Another was to use contractors because I could pay contractors higher hourly rates than employees. Generally the over-age cleaners were more efficient and very highly skilled. The question of when should they finally retire was a constant problem. One 85-year-old was fitter and more effective than some of the 75-year-olds. Eventually the company decided that no one should be employed more than a few months beyond their 65th birthday. So I employed some labour-only sub-contractors to whom the age limit didn't apply. The names were familiar.

Every employee, on their first day, had a safety lecture with practical demonstrations and video, about the hazards of our premises. Only after that first day did their specific training start.

Og

 

[Liar]

Ms,

That letter looks like a case of the "I'm perfect and everyone else it at fault" syndrome. And even if that IS the case, it will be hard for your employer to take it seriously, because of the black-and-whiteness of the message.

If I was an employer, who thought things were at least OK at my company, and I recieved a letter like that, I'd think "Ok, here's someone with personal problems, who seeks to blame everything around her for it. She has clearly not thought 'Maybe it's also me.' So if that's how she wanna handle things, good riddance."

If you tone it down a little, you might have a chance of getting the message across.

ETA: But still probably not.

 

[carsonshepherd]

If I knew I were going to quit, I would have a serious sit-down with a senior member of management and address the issues that were happening in the job (they sound serious.) Document everything, in case action is taken against you. I would not mention quitting at this time. If things don't change within a period of a couple of weeks, and the good people above are probably right that it won't, then you can leave knowing that you spoke your mind, and the management will know why you left. There is nothing to lose by being direct - if they fire you in retaliation, you can get unemployment, using your documentation. And you can do what I did to my former employer, who fired me because of my "attitude": I reported them to the state Labor Board for unfair labor practices, not in retaliation, but because it pissed me off that they were treating their employees unfairly.

 

[Misty_Morning]

Don't burn your bridges. Bide your time until you have secured other employment and then just write a very simple resignation letter...like:

To XXXXX,

I will be teminating my employment with XXXX effective such and such date.

Sincerely,


MsRead




Lengthy resignation letters are best when there is a very good relationship with the employer. They solidify the relationship after you are gone and you can always go back and ask for a positive reference.

Letters like the one you have in mind only hurt you. This will not endear you to them and remember it does go into your personnel file. Later in life you may want a job for an employer who DOES go back and review such files in depth.

Best way to think of it....this was a job and thats all. You performed a function according to your contract. When your contract was up, you decided to seek other employment. There is no need to explain other than you wish to find employment that better suits your professional goals. PERIOD.


Everyone has had at least bad employment experience like the one you are obviously having now (me too, btw). The best thing to do is just move on. Take this as a learning experience and use it to your advantage. When interviewing for other positions, be sure to ask the right questions accordingly to make sure you don't find yourself in a similar situation.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Take this job and shove it
I ain't working here no more
My woman done left and took all the reasons
I was working for
You better not try to stand in my way
As im a walking out the door.
Take this job and shove it
I ain't working here no more

Ive been workin in this factory
From now on fifteen years
All this time I watched my woman
Drowning in a pool of tears
And Ive seen a lot of good folk die
Who had a lot of bills to pay
I'd give the shirt right off of my back
If I had the nerve to say

Well that foreman, hes a regular dog
The line boss, hes a fool
Got a brand new flat-top haircut
Lord, he thinks hes cool
One of these days, Im gonna blow my top
And that sucker, hes gonna pay
Lord I cant wait to see their faces
When I get up the nerve to say
Take this job and shove it!
I aint working here no more!

 

[Vermilion]

FWIW - i agree with those who reckon you should try and get these problems resolved now and, if you can't then hand in a very simple resignation letter. As Liar said, a letter such as the one above just makes you look bitter and self-righteous and most employers would probably ignore it.

Very good luck to you darling, let us know how it goes
x
V

 

[Monazwx]

This thread is helping me alot, thanks guys.

Also, in response, as you may need a recommendation from these people later on, tread carefully. Airing what ails you may help to turn the situation around, but if not, at least you'll know you left with everything said and no hard feelings on your part.

 

[mjl2010]

A letter like that will go one place. Your file in personnel. Then when someone calls to verify employment and ask what kind of employee your were, maybe they won't trash you, but they won't offer anything good either.

Don't send it.

MJL

 

[cloudy]

A letter like that will go one place. Your file in personnel. Then when someone calls to verify employment and ask what kind of employee your were, maybe they won't trash you, but they won't offer anything good either.

Don't send it.

MJL

Most places won't give recommendations anyway. They'll only give info like start date, ending date, and rate of pay - that's it. Too many lawsuits. I was in management for close to twenty years, and that's all the info I've ever been able to give out OR get from another place.

But, that aside, a letter like that is simply unprofessional. Either work to change what's wrong while you're there, or quit - period. Besides, you never know when you may have to work for the same place again, or the same supervisor at another place.

 

[sr71plt]

Do you still need to work? If so, I think your best move is to look after yourself first in this situation. Find another job and leave this one quietly. The management level you are talking about here isn't going to change on the basis of being told off in a resignation. If higher management is going to do anything, they will ask you questions in your exit interview and you can say enough to leave seeds of concern while not exhibiting as simply a demanding disgruntled employee wanting to take heads with you.

If you see hope of changing things, leaving won't do it--especially leaving with guns blazing. Working on it from the inside is the best way to do that. Leaving with guns blazing is mainly going to hurt you in getting a new job.

 

[R. Richard]

To echo what many others have said. The letter you have written won't change a thing at your current work and will hurt you every time you try to find a job.

If you can prioritize your concerns and tell them to the person at your exit interview until you can tell that it is not going to do any good to go further, then perhaps you can accomplish a little something.

What you have written will get you the code word(s) for 'troublemaker.' It's not worth it. JMHO.

 

[ms.read]

Yeah, well. I went to work last night and the damn asshole of a teamleader made me cry for the second time in one weekend ( contrary to what you may think I do not cry on command or one of those freaky emotional people.) Out of nessacity i am keeping the job, but as soon as find one that can support my family i am quitting and they won't know what the fuck hit them.

its really not worth it working there...

Im working on nano to take my mind off of everything that went on this past weekend.