Question, Men - pleasure vs orgasm

Chicklet

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I was reading through MistressRain's "another question" thread, and it seems as though most people answering were saying that they didn't like head because they didn't cum?

Does anyone think that pleasure is synonymous with orgasm? Who out there doesn't enjoy a good romp unless they climax?

-Chicklet
 
If we're being honest ...

... then I LOVE head, and I LOVE cumming, and I particularly LOVE cumming when I get head!!!

And I KNOW it's not politically correct, but I'll feel unsatisfied with any sexual encounter if I don't get to ejaculate at least once!
 
I don't believe pleasure is synonymous with an orgasm, after all, it is the physical, mental and emotional 'pleasure' that builds us to orgasm.

That being said... it can sometimes be quite painful afterwards without climaxing. The old 'blue balls syndrome' comes into affect.

Not sure what thread you are talking about, as obviously I am new, but I LOVE oral and despite being 'able' to acheive an orgasm from it, it is the pleasure while receiving it that is the best.


My $0.05 anyway.

Silver
 
good question....and to be honest, in my case, orgasm can be quite anti-climactic. even though it seems to feel like what i'm building up to all through sex/foreplay/whatever, as if that's going to be the pinnacle of all the enjoyment, i often find that once i get there it's a little underwhelming, and i wish i hadn't cum yet. i often get quite down afterwards as well, which has always puzzled me...anyone else get that?
 
Chicklet said:
I was reading through MistressRain's "another question" thread, and it seems as though most people answering were saying that they didn't like head because they didn't cum?

Does anyone think that pleasure is synonymous with orgasm? Who out there doesn't enjoy a good romp unless they climax?

-Chicklet
I know there are many women out there that have sex and don't always climax , but find it very pleasing if not extremely pleasurable. I do. We can't always cum ... better to enjoy it for what it is and who you are with ... rather than worrying if you will get to cum or not.
 
Chicklet said:
Does anyone think that pleasure is synonymous with orgasm? Who out there doesn't enjoy a good romp unless they climax?


Did you just want men to answer this question? Ah well, lol. I'm female... and I would say 90% of the time (just throwing out a random high percentage there) I do orgasm from intercourse. That other 10% of the time I usually am content without the orgasm... just laying and cuddling with my man and having that bit of play is nice. Still, sometimes I get very very frustrated if I don't orgasm. I'll get bitchy and violent and give my man dirty looks while he laughs and finally eases my pain by going down on me... ::sigh::
Anyhow, to sum up the above: Usually I love the act of making love and the orgasms are just the added fringe benefits... but sometimes I do NEED that orgasm to satisfy me or my sexual tension bubbles over and makes me want to kill something.
 
I posted to the other thread, and feel that I must clarify.

I, for what ever reason (not that I'm complaining, mind you) seem to have an over abundance of stamina. I enjoy receivng oral, but have in the past discovered that my partners tend to tire out before I cum.(sore jaw and all of that) I enjoy every second of it, and don't care one way or the other if I cum, but I prefer not to cause them discomfort by insisting on satisfaction.

I enjoy a good romp, as you put it, and have many times felt that I had a completely satisfying night of it, whan many hours later, we fell asleep with my still not having cum.

I was satisfied because SHE did.

And I enjoyed every minute of it.

It is the intimacy.

In addition, seeing the look in her eyes as she acknowledges that I am the one that is causing her so much pleasure, and the sense that I am taking her to heights of passion that she has not known, that satisfies me.

My cumming is optional.

My current lover is phenomenal, as she is able to bring me to and over the brink quicker than just about all my other lovers in the past, yet we still have to be carefull as to whether or not we start anything on a worknight. :D

So to clarify, I do like head, but I prefer to not put a damper on things by tiring out her mouth, when there are so many other things we can do that are just as pleasurable. However, It is still a wonder to me that, considering my past experiences with blowjobs, she can make me cum using only her mouth and tounge, and I cherish her all the more for it.

Just my 2 cents, and I feel that I am overcharging you at that...
 
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Chicklet said:
were saying that they didn't like head because they didn't cum?
Does anyone think that pleasure is synonymous with orgasm? Who out there doesn't enjoy a good romp unless they climax?

I don't like head just because I'd rather be the one giving oral... but anyhow, I think that a good romp isn't a good romp unless someone orgasms.


Usually I love the act of making love and the orgasms are just the added fringe benefits... but sometimes I do NEED that orgasm to satisfy me or my sexual tension bubbles over and makes me want to kill something.

I love you, lol. Your sexual frustrations are like the violent wrath of God... and I hope that someday they get directed at me :p
 
I posted on the other one and lemme add to it even tho it's kinda the same as the general concensus above.

I don't need to cum all over the place for it to be a fun time. But sometimes the hard on just needs to be taken care of. It's generally not an issue espicially when i'm pumping away at some good pussy. Sometimes when i'm recieving head, it just seems to be taking too long. A lotta people say a lotta mastorbation makes you cum too fast. That's only true if you whack it real fast. I'm used to browsing lit, clicking around free porn websites, and generally taking at least an hour and sometimes entire afternoons or evenings of working my cock without cumming. This puts a damper on quickies. Because of that, recieving head usually takes quite a long time and is generally foreplay.

~ESH419
 
Receiving a head is more foreplay to me. It can bring me to a strong erection but that's as far as it goes (except on very rare occasions). And no, I don't think pleasure and orgasm are synonymous. The orgasm is a welcome treat, but I enjoy the sensation of her.
 
Its an interesting question. To take it a step further, is sex complete with out orgasm? Does someone always have to cum?

As a man, sometimes I just enjoy getting a blow job. I don't have to cum for it to be pleasurable. Its the same for sex. I like the idea of penetrating my wife without the intention of climax.

Its almost more "dirty" when one removes the goal of orgasm from intercourse.

Its kind of like; "we really shouldn't be doing this right now but what the hell" Its a great way to break up a day without the mess, and its quality time.
 
y=mx+b said:
is sex complete with out orgasm? Does someone always have to cum?


As far as having 'complete' sex... I think that to have a perfectly satisfying and 'wow that was perfect' bout of sex... both people should have an orgasm and feel satisfied and complete themselves. That's just my opinion though :).
 
Well, let's see. I've only been able to blow a guy to completion 3 times. The first time it took forever and my jaw hurt terrible. I think I got better at it, but I agree with whoever said it earlier, I prefer it to be foreplay. I like to blow just long enough to get him nice and hard then start riding him, but that's just me...

;)
 
TNRkitect2b said:
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I was satisfied because SHE did [cum].

And I enjoyed every minute of it.

It is the intimacy.

In addition, seeing the look in her eyes as she acknowledges that I am the one that is causing her so much pleasure, and the sense that I am taking her to heights of passion that she has not known, that satisfies me.

My cumming is optional.

TNR, you nailed it. Great sex is about giving. I enjoy sex a LOT more when I know that she went through the roof at least once, or at least crawled away blissfully satisfied.

I definitely love knowing that I am the one causing her so much pleasure. Alas, I rarely get to see the look in her eyes as they are usually clenched shut, head thrown back, as she thrashes and writhes across the bed, screaming and moaning. :D My other indicators that she's at heretofore unknown heights of passion are the claw-marks dug into my arm (she's actually drawn blood once!) and the flaming bite marks on my shoulders (which often last for days, like the ones I have right now!). :devil:

God I love this woman... :heart: :flower:

Oh... as an afterthought... my own ejaculation is itself an afterthought. I really don't care much either way. I'm orgasming right along with her, thought without cumming. (I even get aftershocks, too!)
 
Hmmmm


Orgasm is not necessary at all, but it is a nice end, sort of like going to dinner at a chineese place. The food is good, but you expect your cookie in the end.

I have had sexual interraction a number of times and not had an orgasm, but I really enjoy that part I must admit. There are times that I have been with someone and wanted to make sure they were happy, they were pleased, and that they were satisfied, and to me, my pleasure was of a second nature. I am not always that way, but I am sometimes. One of the best things about being with someone physically is the total feeliing of release you both feel. I like to have mine at thesame time as they get thiers, it makes it more "whole" to me.

Carnus
 
Are Pleasure and Climax Synonomous?

I don't feel they should be but, over the years we have gotten into the habit of becoming too "orgasm focused" at some point during our romp even if that was not our intial intent. If I don't orgasm, she is very, very upset and has a sense of "failure". I think it's dumb but I have been unable to convince her of that. Consequently, I feel obligated to climax. (Can you say performance anxiety?).

90% (or maybe higher) of the time this is a non-issue. We almost always climax together on her final orgasm. Although I do not feel that I have to orgasm for it to be very pleasurable, she very badly wants me to.

As for Oral, since she does not like me coming in her mouth, I have looked at it as foreplay. Earlier in our relationship, I had to concentrate VERY hard to make sure I pulled away in time. This was frustarting back then. Over the years, I have learned to really enjoy it though for what it is and it works for us.
 
Chicklet said:
I was reading through MistressRain's "another question" thread, and it seems as though most people answering were saying that they didn't like head because they didn't cum?

Does anyone think that pleasure is synonymous with orgasm? Who out there doesn't enjoy a good romp unless they climax?

-Chicklet

Physical pleasure is transitory. Now, the feeling of a woman arching her back, and the sensation of the muscle twinges as she feels pleasure, now that is a nice memory that lasts long after any physical sensation would have passed.

Just for the record, the header 'virgin' under my name is by choice--I will not recieve any sexual act, nor will I engage in intercourse. That doesn't mean I don't find cunnilingus incredibly erotic to engage in :).
 
Its ok to enjoy a good romp without climaxing. But I find that the more I turn on my partner, the more I get turned on. Doesn't sound like a problem until you get those first waves of pain that blue balls brings.

Everyone is different, and unfortunately in my case, blue balls can be quite painful, lasting upwards of an hour or more. The wife and I don't always have to have sex, and occasionally we'll engage in some play that will result in a woody lasting too long. If the blue balls have set in, there's little you can do other than grin and bear it. But if they haven't and the wife isn't interested in taking it any further, she's has no problem... ahem, giving me a helping hand.... :D
 
This is a great question chicklet

You have touched on a subject that is only a fantasy so far.I love the thought of very,very long and hot intense foreplay without cumming.I would love so much to just watch a lady sensualy lick and suck my cock and balls for a long time and not even think about cumming.Just to see the lustful look on her face and taking so much time doing it.I also like to worship a pussy,but love to see her cum over and over again. As we speak i am looking for a lady like this...
Thanks
Hrdnthick4u
 
getting head

I've never been able to get off when getting head. This is with different partners. I enjoy the sensation, my partner (female)enjoys giving head, and both of us enjoy what is going to happen afterwards. Its a great way to start things up again, or when I'm tired and she's horny. I'm never tired after she starts!:D
 
pleasure vs orgasm

i love it when i orgasm, but there have been a few ocassions when time was a factor and i cudn't get there- if i cud at least make my girl orgasm, i'd come away feeling fulfilled.. if neither of us orgasmed, i'd feel a little hollow.. its like fooling around but not really doing it.. kinda doesn't feel like i had sex..

on nights when i have all the time in the world and we have sex more than once, it's alright if i don't orgasm each time... there are times i get hard and but i know i'm not going to be able to orgasm but we get on with it for as long as its pleasurable for both of us- sometimes i'm even pleasantly surprised by my body.. lol

and there are some rare occassions when i need it and i need it now and rough and its all about me and i need the orgasm... lol...

with oral sex, i've never been able to orgasm.. i don't know if its me or if i've just not met a woman who gives great head.. i love it nevertheless and its a great precursor to intercourse, and even though i know i won't orgasm, its very pleasurable! it bothered my ex a lot though cuz she thought she wasn't good enough and it took a lot of convincing to make her see otherwise...

the above was all about my pleasure and orgasm, but quite frankly, i get the most pleasure from making my partner orgasm... i kinda understand where my ex was coming from, cuz if i were unable to make my partner orgasm, i'd feel very inadequate... i love going down on a woman and nothing compares to seeing her go wild and moan and writh and close her eyes and dig her head into the pillow (u get the idea.. lol)...

an orgasm's the highest point of pleasure, the climax, but the entire journey is what makes it all that.. the more pleasure u get on the way, the better the orgasm is.. sex=pleasure.. :)

oops... got carried away.. but hey, typing this was extremely pleasurable.. and i didn't even have an orgasm.. lol
 
Chicklet said:
I was reading through MistressRain's "another question" thread, and it seems as though most people answering were saying that they didn't like head because they didn't cum?

Does anyone think that pleasure is synonymous with orgasm? Who out there doesn't enjoy a good romp unless they climax?

-Chicklet

Hi, Chicklet!

I'm a big teaser - I love to tease and be teased and don't necessarily correlate pleasure with orgasm. That being said it is nice after lots of teasing to feel that release - yowza!

BlueElf
 
Giving head and no orgasm...?

I've given head to 4 different guys and I've been able to get them all off every single time. (Not all at once though...not THAT kinky!! ;) ) Is it really that big of a problem or am I just really great at giving head? :p
 
SkyyAngel...

well, if u lived closer, I wud've loved to find out if it's indeed me or if you're just really good.. :p

of course, u wudn't go back unsatisfied either..

:devil:
 
I'd agree with above posts - her pleasure can make me not cumming SO worth it. But then you havta consider that most of the guys on the 'how to' board will be interested in pleasing her and not always themselves anyway.

That said, I find that while not always cumming can be a good thing (partay all night long) sometimes I need that release.
 
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