Pussification

[liqueur]

(Please don't try to turn this into a sissification thread. There are already of other places here for that.),

This term has been co-opted by a certain segment of society, and to them, it's a supreme insult. As clear an indication as anyone could have of their homophobia and misogyny all rolled into one neat package. That said, this thread is also not here to talk politics, and I won't respond to anyone who tries to turn it that way. PM me for that.

What I want is for those of us who are bottoms and/or register on the femme end of the spectrum (and those who love us) to reclaim this word. The sissy crowd, and the porn that goes with it, have taken charge of word “feminization”. So let them have it.

We have pussification! Let us take it and run with it. All of us who are AMAB, but love taking cock, and those who feel femme, even if we don't look it, and those who glory in being “weak men” (vs. the Marlboro Man tintype) — and of course, those folks— men, women, or other— who enjoy bringing out the femme that lives inside of us, and teaching those of us who need teaching our proper roles in life — this thread is for us! All of us.

Have at it!

 

[BillyWalrus]

I can see it.

My trans girlfriend and I present ourselves as a typical male female couple in clothing and behavior. Our sexual roles are also that of a man and a woman but they are at odds with our social roles.

My girlfriend has the masculine sexual role which consists of being dominant sexually and using her cock to fuck and inseminate her partner. I have the feminine sexual role which consists of being submissive sexually and allowing my holes to be used by my partner in fucking me. My asshole is used to fulfill the function of a female cunt or pussy and that is how I have come to think of it sexually.

So, in that sense, I am definitely femme and she is masc.

 

[Britva415]

"Reclaim my ass"

I never had a claim to this word in the first place. My ass is not a pussy, a "boi pussy," pussified, or any of that, it's a man's ass.

Bottoming isn't always femmy or RP'y.

 

[liqueur]

You

"Reclaim my ass"

I never had a claim to this word in the first place. My ass is not a pussy, a "boi pussy," pussified, or any of that, it's a man's ass.

Bottoming isn't always femmy or RP'y.

You seem to be very literal sometimes. My ass is not a pussy either. In fact i quite resent the usage. it's precisely why I wish to distinguish this form the many sissy threads.

That aside, I (not my ass) have been called a pussy often enough, and I have seen that term weoponized, and “pussification” likewise — the two terms appear to be used as the ultimate insult, right now, by a certain segment of society, which speaks volumes not only about their homophobia but their misogyny. And so, I say, I want to reclaim that (those) word(s) as a badge of honor.

And that said— if the thread doesn't speak to you, there's no need to speak to it.

 

[ClockworkFox]

Call me uncultured and an insolent straight fuck if you like, but I'm buggered if I understand ANY of the above. Beyond my ken. I shiver at the prospect of looking up "AMAB", too.

 

[liqueur]

Call me uncultured and an insolent straight fuck if you like, but...

I'm not going to call you anything.

 

[ClockworkFox]

I did look it up. There's non-binary AMAB, too, which must be useful. Does all this have to be added to LGTBI? Is it still that? They keep adding to it, you see, adding in all the groups and subgroups and subsubgroups and Venn diagrams to such an extent that nobody really knows anymore just how many different groups and subgroups and subsubgroups we're not supposed to alienate or hate. Should we add in a P for pussifiers now? I mean, what the fuck ...? It's like treading on eggshells these days. I think twice about opening a door for anyone now, male or female or anything inbetween or including both, or giving up my seat on the train.

 

[ClockworkFox]

I'm not going to call you anything.

Like I could give two shits, man ... although I've probably got THAT simpleton's term wrong too. ... See what I mean?

 

[liqueur]

Like I could give two shits, man ... although I've probably got THAT simpleton's term wrong too. ... See what I mean?

Wow. Did you just come here to stir up shit, or what?

 

[lifeis2short2b]

Aren't you all the same bunch of ????? Who consider yourself straight but like cock ?

 

[ClockworkFox]

Wow. Did you just come here to stir up shit, or what?

Come here to stir up shit. Is that a thing? I haven't just come here, no, I was leaving it for later, thanks. However, you do make a valid point in that releasing a sticky wad can stir up shit in a certain naughty area, so well done there.

 

[Britva415]

You seem to be very literal sometimes

You DID expressly position your original post as "pro-feminization." And you're getting responses from people who want to lean into that, themselves, so, it doesn't seem like I misunderstood your intent.

And I obviously wasn't saying my literal ass is literally not a literal actual pussy. I mean, that's obviously true, but I didn't say that because I thought you or anyone else was saying that anyone's literal ass is literally an actual literal pussy. That's obviously not what anyone is saying. I said it because I thought people would be able to follow the train of thought.

Like, I think I understand your intent regarding separating... sOmEtHiNg!!?1!?... from "sissification." I thought I even knew what that "something" was. Now I'm not sure. I don't see you pushing back against responses you've gotten which did the exact thing you say you "quite resent." Somehow perceived literality is worse to you than actual transgression?

As far as "please don't comment if you aren't aligned with this POV," c'mon. Go ahead and reclaim your words. Nobody's challenging that. But don't erase people who want to demonstrate in the context you presented that bottoms aren't all the same.

 

[NancyPan]

Pussification: An odd word and an odd concept. I have nothing against feminization or sissification, and tbh, have often in the throes of gender dysphoria literally wished I would wake up with a pussy and my male equipment would disappear forever. However, there are many of us who think of ourselves as sissies, crave and emulate femininity, and desire to “be pussified” who have zero interest in cocks, whether it be having one, sucking one, or being penetrated by one.

My beautiful and Dominant Wife has taught me and made me admit out loud to Her several things:
1) I will never have a pussy. The best I can do is worship hers.
2) I must accept that I have an inadequate penis that She does not need it.
3) It is a privilege for a male to wear women’s panties, and I must continue ro demonstrate that I deserve it.

Does that make me pussified, feminized, or sissified, or all three? NancyPan

 

[liqueur]

You DID expressly position your original post as "pro-feminization."

No, I said:

The sissy crowd, and the porn that goes with it, have taken charge of word “feminization”. So let them have it.

As far as other forms of feminization, I attempted to express a welcome. But not that this was what the thread was about. Unless you are referring to:

those folks— men, women, or other— who enjoy bringing out the femme that lives inside of us, and teaching those of us who need teaching our proper roles in life

I can see how that doesn't state clearly what I meant to say. I will have to edit it, if I don't give the thread up as a lost cause. I did not mean “feminizers” in the porn-styled femdom sense. I meant nurturing people of any gender who are able to guide and support folks like me— men, gender-queers, gays, whoever— who feel themselves on the more feminine end of the spectrum, but don't know how to express it in a way that is genuine to us, rather than parroting porn tropes.

And you're getting responses from people who want to lean into that, themselves, so, it doesn't seem like I misunderstood your intent.

I guess I'm not sure who you're referring to

And I obviously wasn't saying my literal ass is literally not a literal actual pussy.

No, of course not and of course I didn't think that. When I said you were being literal, I meant that “pussification” did not mean calling your ass a pussy. I think I explained what I did mean pretty clearly, but to add: I don't know if you are aware, but there are a whole group of people in the anti-gay anti-trans crowd who have weoponized these words. My thread— which I had hoped would light and playful, not full of argument, was born out of desire to push back against that. Do you remember the Radical Fairies? That's the sort of spirit I'd like to evoke. Something that thumbs its nose— in a “gay” sort of way— at those haters

I don't see you pushing back against responses you've gotten which did the exact thing you say you "quite resent."

Again, I'm sorry. I'm not sure what responses you're referring to. Aside from one apparent homophobic troublemaker that I'm trying to ignore, there really hasn't been much.

As far as "please don't comment if you aren't aligned with this POV," c'mon. ... don't erase people who want to demonstrate in the context you presented that bottoms aren't all the same.

Never in a hundred years would i suggest that bottoms are all the same. And I have no desire to “erase” you or anyone. All I said was that if my attempt here doesn't speak to you, I don't understand why you're bothering to criticize it.

I'm not trying to push any agenda on anyone. I was just trying to offer a place for folks like myself who don't fit in to any of the predefined roles for femme-leaning AMAB folks. I think my attempt may be stillborn.

 

[liqueur]

Does that make me pussified, feminized, or sissified, or all three?

I think only you can answer that. I have tried to explain better what I'm trying to do here in the comment directly above.

 

[NancyPan]

I think only you can answer that. I have tried to explain better what I'm trying to do here in the comment directly above.

All too confusing to me. There is too much variation to categorize. Is there a benefit in another label? If so, the one you are suggesting is, IMHO, way, way too loaded.

 

[liqueur]

All too confusing to me. There is too much variation to categorize. Is there a benefit in another label? If so, the one you are suggesting is, IMHO, way, way too loaded.

Not a label. Not at all. An attempt to fight against one.

I'm offline for the night. Back in the morning. Either to try to explain more clearly — or to ditch the thread as a lost cause.

 

[BillyWalrus]

Not a label. Not at all. An attempt to fight against one.

I'm offline for the night. Back in the morning. Either to try to explain more clearly — or to ditch the thread as a lost cause.

I don't think it's a lost cause. The thread spoke to me because I am not a sissy. I don't wear women's clothing or have any desire to do so. I don't judge those who do but it's not for me. So I like what you were trying to do here.

Even though I feel femme when I bottom for my girl, I know a lot of bottoms don't feel that way at all. Again, respect to all types of people who bottom - for sure it's not one size fits all.

 

[Stoicbutfun]

I do hate to prolong a lost cause, but I am at a loss to understand, the issue you are trying to elucidate. You could simply relax and move onto something a little less fraught, just an idea!

 

[OralAllOver]

Pussies take a pounding! They bounce back!

It's balls that r fragile. Soldiers tough in combat should receive a medal in the image of a pussy

 

[ClockworkFox]

I've now read and inwardly digested all subsequent explanations and elucidations, and I'm relieved to find that I understand even less than before. If I HAD got any of it, I'd have been worried about my mind.

Why are people so desperate to compartmentalise and decompartmentalise, include, exclude, onboard, offboard and veer off and veer on about their sexuality, AND shout it out to all and sundry? Jesus.