PT 141...it REALLY works!

[A Desert Rose]

Yes, people are going to use drugs, regardless of what anyone else says to them. Yes, no one posting here will stop someone from using them.

But this is a totally irresponsible thread. Advocating the use of drugs, publically and on a public board, because it gave you "an awesome orgasm" is not a responsible or adult thing to do.

It's one thing to have someone mess with your head because you have no other choice in the matter (as in medically or surgically) but it's quite another to encourage people at an online forum to use drugs that make your "whole body a G-spot."

No one takes an issue with YOUR choice of taking this drug. It's your body and brain to do with as you choose. But people we don't even know and likely never will, read here. We should all take some responsiblity for what we post.

As an aside... I wonder how legal is it to post the misuse of drugs or alcohol on a public forum and I would question it's relevance to BDSM, period.

 

[Aeroil]

I thought that's what testing was for?

 

[Marquis]

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PT-141, huh?

I would try the stuff.

 

[Aeroil]

A super-Marquis? Oh man, random bitches beware.

And Rose? I would question the relevance to BDSM on 90% of the cafe topics.

 

[Marquis]

In all seriousness, where can I buy this stuff?

 

[kiten69]

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PT-141, huh?

I would try the stuff.

And Rose? I would question the relevance to BDSM on 90% of the cafe topics.

i think it would be safe to say that MOST times when someone starts a thread it does in someway relate to BDSM and what those "4" letters mean to them personally...

 

[Aeroil]

i think it would be safe to say that MOST times when someone starts a thread it does in someway relate to BDSM and what those "4" letters mean to them personally...

In Talk, sure, especially since we boot the thread out of talk if it isn't.

But in Cafe???????

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

In Talk, sure, especially since we boot the thread out of talk if it isn't.

But in Cafe???????

I think you will find the words cafe and creche aren't always interchangeable..............

 

[Netzach]

I just think this is one more lame-ass way people feel the need to buy something to have good sex.

Uh, hand me my latex boys. Yeah, well no one's perfect.

 

[Aeroil]

latex boys > Pt 141

 

[Xelebes]

Why don't we all just pop some e and have one mad cuddle puddle?

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

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[kiten69]

Before i say this let me clarify it is NOT meant toward any one person...

When i started this thread i knew that there would be people that would disagree...which is fine, you disagree feel free to come in and say so. But please we are all adults here, and we make our own choices. I am not saying "run out and try this" i am saying that along the lines of the "viagra" type drugs that it works EXTREMELY well. It is still in the testing phases...and it is NOT only people who suffer with ED that are being allowed to test it.

So that being said if you have any thing that is NOT FLAMEWORTHY please feel free to reply, but please try to keep the other "stuff" to yourself...

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

Some consistency might be respected kitten. Your reply above to another post 'stuff' followed by a policy enhancement after mine.

Most confusing.

 

[Marquis]

Since you broke your promise to ignore me

Some consistency might be respected kitten. Your reply above to another post 'stuff' followed by a policy enhancement after mine.

Most confusing.

The only thing I find confusing is your logic and diction.

No one is asking you to experiment with this drug. kiten was merely offering information which I for one was very interested in receiving.

 

[JMohegan]

It is still in the testing phases...and it is NOT only people who suffer with ED that are being allowed to test it.

Correct.

From the manufacturer, Palatin Technologies:

Bremelanotide (formerly PT-141)

Bremelanotide is Palatin’s novel drug candidate for the treatment of male and female sexual dysfunction. First in a new class of therapies called melanocortin agonists, Bremelanotide has shown promise in effectively treating erectile dysfunction (ED) without the cardiovascular effects found in ED drugs currently available. Bremelanotide works through a mechanism of action involving the central nervous system rather than directly on the vascular system. As a result, it may offer significant safety and efficacy benefits over currently available products. To date, Bremelanotide has shown positive results in four Phase 2 efficacy studies enrolling more than 300 men. Palatin has also conducted a Phase 1 study in 32 premenopausal women without sexual dysfunction, in which the drug was shown to be safe and well tolerated. A Phase 2A pilot clinical study evaluating Bremelanotide in pre-menopausal women diagnosed with female sexual dysfunction (FSD) has shown encouraging results.

Source and additional information found here.

 

[O'Mac]

Now I've missed out on most of this debate but I'm a bit confused...

Flogging, whipping, caning, pulling hair, stopping breathing, and controlled electrocution is okay but putting a small pill in your mouth that will intensify the emotions brought on by those acts is not good?

Sounds a bit hypocritical to me if I understand this properly. Nor is it directed at anyone person, just feeling a bit of a negative reaction to the OP and I don't see why that is.

 

[callinectes]

everytime I see the title of this thread I think of McHale's Navy. Hawt!

 

[Quint]

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[O'Mac]

A.) Most round these here parts would not agree that "stopping breathing" is okay.

B.) You can drop the flogger or decrease tension on hair when it starts to go wrong; it's much harder to stop a chemical coursing through your system if it starts to go wrong.

C.) My guess is, debate over natural high v. unnatural high. Especially a trial unnatural high. Especially a trial unnatural high which is designed to remedy sexual dysfunction yet is being used by people who presumably function jes' fine without chemicals.

D.) I'm not on one side or the other. Just pointing out what I see is all the hubbub, bub.

A) I don't know. There seems to be quite a bit of it from what I read, but I see what you mean.

B) True, and that is a totally understandable point you've made. In fact, one of the best explanations I've seen thus far.

C) I think that's pretty much what the issue is, or at least how I've seen it. It seems more about the legitimacy of the activity in my opinion, but I might be off-base with that. The overall vibe I get is that taking a pill is somehow "cheating" in some people's eyes. But thats just an observation on my part, I could be reading into something too much.

D) I'm not either. I don't take recreation drugs of any sort (but I do likes me the cider). I wouldn't take anything like this unless I needed to, but I just think it's a bit odd that considering some of the things we seem so ready and able to do on this board, taking a pill is crossing a line. I neither condone nor advocate, but just thought some of the arguments were inconsistent.

 

[neonflux]

I'm not sure that I understand what the fuss is about. At 50, I've got a number of friends who this would help tremendously, including men with strong libidos who for a variety of reasons have experienced ED.

Why shouldn't they have access to a drug that could help them to enjoy sex, particularly if it has fewer potential complications than the ones that are currently available? In regards to taking drugs to enhance sexual experience when they aren't needed, if the drug is safe used occasionally (and we don't know if this has any effects with longterm use), why is it my job to tell another whether to use or not use it? Is there anyone here who has never, ever used drugs to enhance a sexual experience...?

Why does the fact that it works on neural pathways make it evil? I was among those who always swore I would not use any type of antidepressant until I was diagnosed with herpes, had a huge financial setback, and experienced a major break-up (temporary, not related to herpes) all within a 4 month period. I could not get counseling more frequently than 1x per month through my HMO because despite my severe reactive depresssion I was generally emotionally stable, wasn't suicidal and wasn't on drugs. I thank my lucky stars that they were at least willing to put me on a shortterm course of Wellbutrin.

One caveat to all that I just wrote...

Date rape, anyone? Think of the possibilities here, ladies.... and watch your drinks when you're out with a guy you don't know very well.

While your response seems to have been made somewhat tongue-in-cheek, I have read elsewhere that this drug could be used in this manner, which is reprehensible, of course...

When all is said and done, I do not see how reporting on a consensual use of the same is in and of itself irresponsible.

I for one, Kiten found your report interesting and informative, even though it is unlikely that I will ever use the substance myself (except when it interferes with my ability to concentrate on work, I have no difficulty with my libido, LOL).

Neon

 

[WriterDom]

Bet I could give you a baby aspirin and get you wetter. Wanta try me?

 

[neonflux]

Bet I could give you a baby aspirin and get you wetter. Wanta try me?

Sure, go ahead, although I guess it depends upon where you put it, LOL (ever tried a fizzy antacid?)