Product Placement - smoking?

[waratah]

Well I do gotto sleep!

And no problems with the direction the thread took - If its turns out the concensus is that the story I refered too wasn't an effort to create an urge to smoke in readers then I'm gunna respect that.

But as a final bit of mischief can I ask the smokers and former smokers here to honestly tell me that a story like this didn't/doesn't enhance that urge?

 

[gauchecritic]

Well I do gotto sleep!

And no problems with the direction the thread took - If its turns out the concensus is that the story I refered too wasn't an effort to create an urge to smoke in readers then I'm gunna respect that.

But as a final bit of mischief can I ask the smokers and former smokers here to honestly tell me that a story like this didn't/doesn't enhance that urge?

We probably will when some University study demonstrates that our stories make people go out and rape their grandmothers or die in a gimp mask or some other equally ridiculous proposition.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

A few years ago this state got very creative with clove cigarettes.

It was legal to make them. It was legal to sell them. But it was illegal to possess them. The state taxed them, smoke shops sold them, but cops arrested you if you had them on you.

I think this is where we're headed with tobacco.

As I understand it, technically, the thing that makes possession of marijuana illegal is that you have to have a government tax stamp to possess it, and the government issues no marijuana tax stamps.

The reason the government had to criminalize marijuana this way was because of the constitution, which allows ingestion of any sort of substance in any amount under the allowance of the "pursuit of happiness" provision. To get around this, congress decided it couldn't ban marijuana or declare it illegal, since it's a common weed, but it could tax it and refuse to print tax stamps for it, and that's what they did.

So technically, it's legal to sell marijuana and legal to use it, you just can never possess it, and using it without possessing it is rather difficult.

Other drugs are controlled under the Food and Drug Act and are controlled substances, but since marijuana isn't an official drug, it doesn't fall under this provision of FDA regulations.

 

[amicus]

"...the constitution, which allows ingestion of any sort of substance in any amount under the allowance of the "pursuit of happiness" provision...."

~~~

Thanks, Mab, that is also my conclusion.

I wonder if anyone would address by what right any government dictates what substances its citizens may use.

It is not just a political issue with me, rather a basic fundamental philosophical tenet. One that expresses that achieving psychlogical maturity is a process of decision making with only reality being the determining factor in choice.

If government and church continue to make decisions, then how can an individual ever achieve full adult maturity?

Amicus...

 

[slyc_willie]

A few years ago this state got very creative with clove cigarettes.

It was legal to make them. It was legal to sell them. But it was illegal to possess them. The state taxed them, smoke shops sold them, but cops arrested you if you had them on you.

I think this is where we're headed with tobacco.

I wish I could say I think you're wrong about that, JB. But no doubt there'll be some legislation in the near future that makes possession of tobacco some kind of crime.

 

[rgraham666]

I wish I could say I think you're wrong about that, JB. But no doubt there'll be some legislation in the near future that makes possession of tobacco some kind of crime.

God, I hope so! I'm gonna be rich!

Setting up production and transportation routes as we speak.

 

[slyc_willie]

God, I hope so! I'm gonna be rich!

Setting up production and transportation routes as we speak.

Discounts for Lit members, I hope?

 

[CeriseNoire]

When a man buys a pack of VIRGINIA SLIMS or EVE or MORE for himself...you just know. You need say nothing more about him to know his vocation, political party, etc.

If a man smokes Lucky Strikes or unfiltered CAMELS...you know all you need to know about him.

This made me chuckle since the first cigarettes I smoked were Lucky Strikes. I wonder what that says about me. In the time before I quit, I also smoked Camels and Virginia Slims among others.

In answer to the OP, it just seems like a very specific level of detail. Virginia Slims do tend to be associated with certain types.

 

[rgraham666]

Discounts for Lit members, I hope?

But of course.

 

[Weird Harold]

As I understand it, technically, the thing that makes possession of marijuana illegal is that you have to have a government tax stamp to possess it, and the government issues no marijuana tax stamps.

That's the original legal sleight-of-hand used to make Marijuana illegal, but more recent laws simply outlaw possession with explicit statements like "possession of les than one o unce shal be a misdemeanor" and "possession of more than one ounce shall be defacto proof of intent to sell."