Prejudice Again

[kbate]

I want to scream. I want to hit something. I want to do something, but all I can do is cry. It has been a day now and still I can't do anything but cry when I think about it. Sarah is angry. She doesn't cry, she just doesn't talk.

We went to Washington together. We walked around, shopped, ate, and had a good time. It was a great day. We went to the mall, and we visited the monuments. At the Vietnam Memorial, I always cry. I can't help it. It is a sad place. Today Sarah held my hand when I cried, she wiped my face.

Someone started yelling, calling us names. We started walking away, but he kept up. He was good, he was witty, other people laughed at his statements.

My whole body still feels like my heart was ripped out and stomped, my arms hurt. No response necessary.

 

[skippy5403]

im sorry

Hi i am really soory for what happened and i know you said no reply nessesary but when something like this happenes it just pissis me off to know end why people cant be open minded or at least shut there damn mouth it makes me mad again i am so sorry.

 

[jfb4548]

I want to scream. I want to hit something. I want to do something, but all I can do is cry. It has been a day now and still I can't do anything but cry when I think about it. Sarah is angry. She doesn't cry, she just doesn't talk.

We went to Washington together. We walked around, shopped, ate, and had a good time. It was a great day. We went to the mall, and we visited the monuments. At the Vietnam Memorial, I always cry. I can't help it. It is a sad place. Today Sarah held my hand when I cried, she wiped my face.

Someone started yelling, calling us names. We started walking away, but he kept up. He was good, he was witty, other people laughed at his statements.

My whole body still feels like my heart was ripped out and stomped, my arms hurt. No response necessary.

My sweet friend I'm sorry for your hurt. Know that I truly feel for you and wiped a tear from my eye as I read this.

 

[glamorilla]

outside of grabbing him by the back of his head and bouncing it against a cement block like a basketball for a few minutes i really dont know what to tell you in how to handle yourself when stuff like this happens.

i dont know how old you are or how long you've been out~i can tell you already know people like this have problems. hopefully theyll just make you stronger and more aware of yourself and how important you are.

just walk tall and proud...and away from people like that.

 

[College_geek]

If there is one thing that pisses me of about people, it's that many have to insult someone else and make them feel like them scum of the earth for themselves to feel better about their own pathetic lives. It's disgusting.

 

[ExistentialLuv]

Sending you some love and comfort hon.

It is hard to be open when ignorant people treat you this way but do not let it stop you from showing your love in a respectable way.

When PJ and I were discriminated against for the first time I can remember how angry and hurt I was. It put a bit of a strain on or relationship because I was affraid to show PDA in public where I never was before.

What helped me was not taking it so personal. I was not being attacked as an individual but as a community of people not understood by society yet.

Not sure if that will help any but hold your head high and walk proudly. Do not be ashamed of who you are.

 

[Raimondin]

Someone started yelling, calling us names. We started walking away, but he kept up. He was good, he was witty, other people laughed at his statements.

So sorry this happened to you.

In my experiences, believe me I've been called every name in the book!
After so many years I just got so tired of it and finally decided to do something about it.
No, not physical confrontation.
Reverse psychology!

I just laughed right along with them!
From that moment on if anybody ever called me a faggot, queer, gay, c#*ksucker
or whatever, whether in public or in private, I just answered:
"Yeah and DAMN PROUD OF IT!"
Believe me the look on their face(s) was worth a Kodak moment.
They didn't expect that. Called their bluff or whatever!

It meant standing up for myself for who and what I am!
I finally had to stop letting the rest of the world
trying to make me feel ashamed of myself!
Because that was what I was allowing.

Remember, they are just stupid words from stupid people...

 

[deezire1900]

I always say the same thing...

"Jesus sees you right now being mean, and he will remember."

It is one of those statements that makes people shut the fuck up.

Now my friend says "yeah, well if you would have been a real man and could get it up, I wouldn't have left you for her."

Again...shuts the fucker up.


I wish stuff like this didn't happen, I don't understand why others feel so bad about themselves they have to be mean to others.

 

[John Doe]

What are you gonna do, cry...? oh, too late.

Cowboy the fuck up, dammit.

outside of grabbing him by the back of his head and bouncing it against a cement block

Concrete goes thud, cement goes splat.

 

[Raimondin]

What are you gonna do, cry...? oh, too late.

Cowboy the fuck up, dammit.



Concrete goes thud, cement goes splat.

That's an idea!

 

[John Doe]

That's an idea!

What, to cowboy up or make the guy wear a cement face mask?

 

[Regis2001]

I want to scream. I want to hit something. I want to do something, but all I can do is cry. It has been a day now and still I can't do anything but cry when I think about it. Sarah is angry. She doesn't cry, she just doesn't talk.

We went to Washington together. We walked around, shopped, ate, and had a good time. It was a great day. We went to the mall, and we visited the monuments. At the Vietnam Memorial, I always cry. I can't help it. It is a sad place. Today Sarah held my hand when I cried, she wiped my face.

Someone started yelling, calling us names. We started walking away, but he kept up. He was good, he was witty, other people laughed at his statements.

My whole body still feels like my heart was ripped out and stomped, my arms hurt. No response necessary.

Gah. That always sucks.

But it's wierd... I've never heard a witty homophobe before. Most people clever enough to think up good insults are clever enough not to shout them out in public places. Which isn't to say that there aren't some very clever, witty homophobes out there - the sort of people I would certainly go to for information about, say, science or computers or philosophy or literature or any of that - but they generally reserve insults for when arguments start, rather than just wasting them on public performances.

 

[Raimondin]

What, to cowboy up or make the guy wear a cement face mask?

Cement face mask! Hehehehe!

 

[deezire1900]

When I hear of situations like this I regress into this tuff girl, who would like to pull out a 9MM hold it to the guys head and say "you a tough guy now? You have anything else to say?"

I watched too many mob movies growing up.


But seriously... I have been thinking about getting a gun. In MN you can carry one. Just something small for at home, for protection. I would have to take classes so that I knew how to handle one. ( I hunted when I was younger, but nothing in the last 5 years.)
I have no children, so an accident isn't a concern.

Thoughts?

 

[Raimondin]

When I hear of situations like this I regress into this tuff girl, who would like to pull out a 9MM hold it to the guys head and say "you a tough guy now? You have anything else to say?"

I watched too many mob movies growing up.


But seriously... I have been thinking about getting a gun. In MN you can carry one. Just something small for at home, for protection. I would have to take classes so that I knew how to handle one. ( I hunted when I was younger, but nothing in the last 5 years.)
I have no children, so an accident isn't a concern.

Thoughts?

Yeah, I actually pondered on the idea one time, in the not so distant past.

Especially when my flat had been broken into moments before
I got there one night! What if I had been asleep or something?

At the time I was living in S.F. and you would think
that would be a safe haven for anybody gay. Not so.
There were other incidents as well.

I think it's dangerous in any large city walking home alone.
Believe me, I came real close to going over to the
gun shop during that time...

 

[deezire1900]

I know many of my lesbian friends say no way. Too violent for them, but which end of the violence stick should i be on? The kill or be killed, raped, tortured end.

I have often thought about how the world would be different if more people carried?

 

[Etoile]

We went to Washington together. We walked around, shopped, ate, and had a good time. It was a great day. We went to the mall, and we visited the monuments. At the Vietnam Memorial, I always cry. I can't help it. It is a sad place. Today Sarah held my hand when I cried, she wiped my face.

Someone started yelling, calling us names. We started walking away, but he kept up. He was good, he was witty, other people laughed at his statements.

I'm so sorry this happened to you. May I ask where in the city you were when this happened? What monument were you visiting - did this happen AT the Vietnam Memorial?

I hope you will visit Dupont Circle sometime. That's DC's primary gay area (although it extends a bit outside nowadays) and you can be free to be who you are there.

I live in Fairfax County myself.

 

[kbate]

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I'm so sorry this happened to you. May I ask where in the city you were when this happened? What monument were you visiting - did this happen AT the Vietnam Memorial?
I hope you will visit Dupont Circle sometime. That's DC's primary gay area (although it extends a bit outside nowadays) and you can be free to be who you are there.
I live in Fairfax County myself.

We were on the mall at the Vietnam Memorial, near the Lincoln Memorial end. I like to visit the memorials in the evening to stroll around, read names and think. It is a good place to work on poetry and to just wonder about man's stupidity.

I rarely go DuPont Circle, but I used to spend a lot of time in Georgetown. I don't think Sarah and I will be openly strolling the city again for a while.

I live in western Loudoun County.

 

[College_geek]

I know many of my lesbian friends say no way. Too violent for them, but which end of the violence stick should i be on? The kill or be killed, raped, tortured end.

I have often thought about how the world would be different if more people carried?

I've always had mixed feelings about guns, but in your case, I think I'd say go for it. Since you've thought about it a good deal and plan to get proper training and such, and you don't have any kids, it sounds like you shouldn't have problems.

If more people carried them, at the state in which our society is in, I would actually be really afraid, because I don't think most people would be as responsible as you sound about it. Just my thoughts.

 

[Etoile]

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I rarely go DuPont Circle, but I used to spend a lot of time in Georgetown. I don't think Sarah and I will be openly strolling the city again for a while.

I live in western Loudoun County.

I'm sorry to hear that. I do have friends out the Leesburg way who don't come into the city often, but it's mostly a distance thing for them.

I personally have never had any problems in the city proper. My wife and I got bashed in Fairfax city several years ago, but that was it. Then again, I suppose I do stick to Northwest areas like Georgetown and Dupont Circle. Oh, we did try going to Phase One once (in Southeast) but it wasn't really our style so we haven't been back.

Again, I'm really sorry this happened to you. I'm even more sorry that you won't be coming back to the city because of it.

Or did you mean you just won't be letting it show that you're gay? That's sad to me too.

 

[kbate]

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Again, I'm really sorry this happened to you. I'm even more sorry that you won't be coming back to the city because of it.

Or did you mean you just won't be letting it show that you're gay? That's sad to me too.

I won't stop coming to the city. That would be silly, I love the city at night. The distance is a pill, but I only go once or twice a month anyway.

I have always been open with my sexuality, both when I used to date men and now that I do not. We won't hide or become a closet lesbians, but we will take more care in public about displays of affection.

 

[John Doe]

But seriously... I have been thinking about getting a gun. In MN you can carry one. Just something small for at home, for protection. I would have to take classes so that I knew how to handle one. ( I hunted when I was younger, but nothing in the last 5 years.)
I have no children, so an accident isn't a concern.

Thoughts?

that and pistols are handled much differently and usually less accurate than rifles. You'll need some practice on the range.

I know many of my lesbian friends say no way. Too violent for them, but which end of the violence stick should i be on? The kill or be killed, raped, tortured end.

I have often thought about how the world would be different if more people carried?

"An armed society is a polite society." --Robert A. Heinlein

 

[John Doe]

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I won't stop coming to the city. That would be silly, I love the city at night. The distance is a pill, but I only go once or twice a month anyway.

I have always been open with my sexuality, both when I used to date men and now that I do not. We won't hide or become a closet lesbians, but we will take more care in public about displays of affection.

Then cowboy the fuck up.

 

[kbate]

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Then cowboy the fuck up.

13000 posts without evidence of intelligence.. so sad.

 

[WyldSpirit]

Kate, I'm so sorry that you and Sarah had to deal with someone like this. It hurts my heart to think about. I just wish we could do some serious re-education of all the homophobes out there. Actually, not just the homophobes, but all those with serious prejudices. I hope that you don't let a couple of ignorant jerks change the way that you and Sarah relate in public. I'm not huge on public displays, but, I do know that if/when I have a girlfriend again I will hold her hand or have an arm around her, things like that in public. If you let some jerks comments stop you from doing those things, then you're letting him win and showing him that he can make your behavior change and/or make you hide who you are.

I'm sorry you had to go through all this. Sending some big hugs your way!