Pregnancy and the New America

[RowanWrites]

Now that we have rolled back Roe v. Wade, and given fetal tissue the same rights as living humans, what does that mean for pregnancy-sex? Is it child porn now?

 

[Omenainen]

It’s incestuous group sex, and probably non-con too. Going to make categorization difficult. I’m just gonna make all my characters infertile from now on. Good thing I don’t have pregnancy fetish.

 

[lovecraft68]

I'll see your point, and roll you one better.
While the GOP want to take women back to the 50's the progressives ask what is a woman? Its a question you can't answer without getting in trouble. They want Mother changed to 'birthing person' and oh, now they say men can get pregnant!
So what does all of this mean for women in general? Will we be writing about them only in the sci fi section as a extinct species?
Also, does R v W being overturned stop all those pregnant men from abortions?
I doubt it because men get to do what they want.

 

[Jmanchu]

Child porn? Only if the baby is in on that mommy action. I see it kind of like South Park depicting prophet Muhammad in that banned episode without actually showing him. You know there's a baby in there somewhere, but the only sexy "baby" you see getting fucked is mommy dearest.

 

[rockcasbah]

Zygotes are as close to gender fluid as 46 chromosomes can get without being jizz.

Write that down.

 

[adrina]

Now that we have rolled back Roe v. Wade, and given fetal tissue the same rights as living humans, what does that mean for pregnancy-sex? Is it child porn now?

Technically we are giving fetal tissue more rights than living humans. Unless that is you can compel organ and tissue donation to preserve your life... ?

Just sayin'.

 

[ll74]

Now that we have rolled back Roe v. Wade, and given fetal tissue the same rights as living humans, what does that mean for pregnancy-sex? Is it child porn now?

This is the best angle I've seen so far. Well done.

 

[LdyHoneybee]

Child porn? Only if the baby is in on that mommy action. I see it kind of like South Park depicting prophet Muhammad in that banned episode without actually showing him. You know there's a baby in there somewhere, but the only sexy "baby" you see getting fucked is mommy dearest.

Speaking of Mohammed, i read a long time ago that Moslems believe that the messiah will be born from a man and that that is/was the reason for “baggy” pants. It sounds like a joke so I am hesitant to buy into it, but does anybody know?

 

[Jmanchu]

Speaking of Mohammed, i read a long time ago that Moslems believe that the messiah will be born from a man and that that is/was the reason for “baggy” pants. It sounds like a joke so I am hesitant to buy into it, but does anybody know?

I wouldn't know. I'm tempted to say the stupid joke that popped in my mind reading that, but I'm afraid I might offend people if I do. A first for me.

Honestly, I think it doesn't sound true.

 

[domroger]

Speaking of Mohammed, i read a long time ago that Moslems believe that the messiah will be born from a man and that that is/was the reason for “baggy” pants. It sounds like a joke so I am hesitant to buy into it, but does anybody know?

,I heard that 55 years ago .

 

[Bramblethorn]

Speaking of Mohammed, i read a long time ago that Moslems believe that the messiah will be born from a man and that that is/was the reason for “baggy” pants. It sounds like a joke so I am hesitant to buy into it, but does anybody know?

I'm no expert but I'd be very surprised, considering that Quran 3:45 identifies the Messiah as Jesus (Isa), son of Mary (Mariam):

Remember when the angels proclaimed, “O Mary! Allah gives you good news of a Word from Him, his name will be the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary; honoured in this world and the Hereafter, and he will be one of those nearest to Allah.

FWIW, although Islam doesn't accept the Christian teaching that Jesus (aka Isa) was the son of God, it does consider him to be a very important prophet, and he plays a major role in Islamic end times theology.

The other major "Messiah" figure in Islamic theology is the Mahdi. Teachings about him vary significantly between different branches of Islam (and some equate the Mahdi with Jesus), but I'm not aware of any that teaches "born from a man".

The story shows up on an old Straight Dope discussion thread but general consensus there seems to be that it's a traveller's tale with no basis in Islamic theology.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Now that we have rolled back Roe v. Wade, and given fetal tissue the same rights as living humans, what does that mean for pregnancy-sex? Is it child porn now?

No. It means abortion rights will remain the same or be expanded in some states (such as CA where voters will consider a November ballot measure to allow abortion at any stage), and more restricted or banned in others. It has no effect on pornography laws. If looking at pregnancy sex porn turns you on, you’re free to carry on. Same with ultrasound images.

 

[rockcasbah]

“ you know, you’re eating for two now”

 

[Bramblethorn]

I'll see your point, and roll you one better.
While the GOP want to take women back to the 50's the progressives ask what is a woman? Its a question you can't answer without getting in trouble.

If you're referring to Ketanji Brown Jackson's confirmation hearing, it wasn't a progressive who asked her that question (it was Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn). And yes, it's a question you can't answer without getting in trouble, but not in the way you're suggesting.

Blackburn was presumably fishing for a biological-essentialist answer e.g. "somebody who's born with two X chromosomes".

If KBJ had given an answer along those lines: yes, she would have been yelled at by some progressives, and that wouldn't have made a lick of difference. She would still have been confirmed to a life appointment to SCOTUS; no way the D senators were going to knock back a Biden nominee, not after how SCOTUS appointments have gone in the last six years.

But even in a world where nobody had ever heard of transgender people, it would still have been a mistake for her to answer that question. Just the biological side of sex, without getting into gender identity, is far more complicated than the simplified high-school version that most people know. (For instance, there are people born with two X chromosomes and a penis.)

Trying to give simplistic answers to complex questions outside one's field of expertise, without taking the time to go research the facts and listen to expert witnesses, is a terrible idea. Judges who do that kind of thing are liable to find themselves stuck in a situation where they either have to eat their words or make obviously wrong decisions.

They want Mother changed to 'birthing person' and oh, now they say men can get pregnant!
So what does all of this mean for women in general? Will we be writing about them only in the sci fi section as a extinct species?
Also, does R v W being overturned stop all those pregnant men from abortions?
I doubt it because men get to do what they want.

Not so much for trans men, no. Trans men get fucked over by this too.

 

[LdyHoneybee]

Zygotes are as close to gender fluid as 46 chromosomes can get without being jizz.

Write that down.

I'm no expert but I'd be very surprised, considering that Quran 3:45 identifies the Messiah as Jesus (Isa), son of Mary (Mariam):



FWIW, although Islam doesn't accept the Christian teaching that Jesus (aka Isa) was the son of God, it does consider him to be a very important prophet, and he plays a major role in Islamic end times theology.

The other major "Messiah" figure in Islamic theology is the Mahdi. Teachings about him vary significantly between different branches of Islam (and some equate the Mahdi with Jesus), but I'm not aware of any that teaches "born from a man".

The story shows up on an old Straight Dope discussion thread but general consensus there seems to be that it's a traveller's tale with no basis in Islamic theology.

Yes i looked it up trying to find if the story was true but found no reference to it. And i don’t remember where I read it. Thanks.