Poverty

[colddiesel]

I have spent a fair bit of time overseas in the past few months and not having travelled much in the past eight / nine years have been struck by the fairly obvious increase in poverty in otherwise rich societies. The Northern suburbs of Paris, post industrial Northern Britain, the US rust belt and the deep South, all tell the same story, a significant and growing number of people struggling to feed themselves, to clothe themselves, or to afford housing." But the most significant change seems to be a 'wall' of indifference, "it's not our problem- there's nothing we can do," an attitude which descends rapidly into blame making. The churches, whether Hindu, Christian, Moslem, Buddhist or whatever, tend to look after their own. The politicians are even less interested - in an interest group with no advocates and no financial clout.

Some countries like Germany and Japan are doing a little better but still have their significant problems, migrants in Germany and perhaps a lack of migrants in Japan for examples. My country Australia is not free on this issue, the abject poverty of our black Aboriginal people is a national disgrace.

But answers, are there any? particularly through existing institutions and attitudes. I don't know where to start, what do you think with respect to your peoples poverty?

Meanwhile I'm off travelling again, this time to South and South east Asia for a few weeks.

 

[AndersonsBiographer]

The whole world feels like it's turning into Yeltson-era Russia. Even formerly "nice" areas like where my family comes from in New England are starting to get scummy, and areas that were once just poor are horror shows.

It started a long time ago, but it really accelerated with COVID. Indonesia and Malaysia were both nice when I was there, but I've heard that the global south as a whole really still hasn't recovered since the start of the pandemic.

 

[ll74]

The whole world feels like it's turning into Yeltson-era Russia. Even formerly "nice" areas like where my family comes from in New England are starting to get scummy, and areas that were once just poor are horror shows.

It started a long time ago, but it really accelerated with COVID. Indonesia and Malaysia were both nice when I was there, but I've heard that the global south as a whole really still hasn't recovered since the start of the pandemic.

So you're saying pandemics cause issues?


Who woulda thunk?

 

[AndersonsBiographer]

So you're saying pandemics cause issues?


Who woulda thunk?

Didn't cause. Accelerated.

Do you have to be a belligerent cunt on every post you make?

I might be a bit of a sociopath, but at least I ain't an ass about it.

 

[ll74]

Didn't cause. Accelerated.

I'd did both.

Do you have to be a belligerent cunt on every post you make?

I'm not here to be your friend. I know that might be upsetting to you, but you'll survive.

 

[AndersonsBiographer]

I'm not here to be your friend. I know that might be upsetting to you, but you'll survive.

I mean, I'm flattered that you apparently feel the need to follow me around like a missing puppy, yelping at every little move I make. But really, if I wanted this kind of attention from the likes of you, don't you think I would have spent more time in Thailand?

 

[ll74]

I mean, I'm flattered that you apparently feel the need to follow me around like a missing puppy, yelping at every little move I make. But really, if I wanted this kind of attention, don't you think I would have spent more time in Thailand?

Sorry, but your not a special snowflake. I've commented on your shit less than anyone else's here. But hey, if deciding that I'm looking out for you helps with your mental well being, I'll take the hit. I'm nothing, of not for being a supporting person.

 

[AndersonsBiographer]

Sorry, but your not a special snowflake. I've commented on your shit less than anyone else's here. But hey, if deciding that I'm looking out for you helps with your mental well being, I'll take the hit. I'm nothing, of not for being a supporting person.

That's... not the flex you think it is. That's sad.

Every other I post I make on here, I'm sure as shootin' to have your commentary flowing in its wake like some parasitic, diarrheal discharge. And you tell me that there are other people around, whose legs you're trying to hump even harder than mine?

Get a life, motherfucker. Or failing that, get a foreskin.

 

[ll74]

That's... not the flex you think it is. That's sad.

Yet you thought it was all about you.

Every other I post I make on here, I'm sure as shootin' to have your commentary flowing in its wake like some parasitic, diarrheal discharge. And you tell me that there are other people around, whose legs you're trying to hump even harder than mine?

How exciting for you.

I am glad to make your time here enjoyable. You're not the first to tell me why you think my shit stinks....you're not going to be the last.

I'm not here for you, cupcake.

Get a life, motherfucker. Or failing that, get a foreskin.

Thanks for your valuable feedback

 

[AndersonsBiographer]

Thanks for your valuable feedback

 

[ll74]

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What a dumb meme.

 

[AndersonsBiographer]

What a dumb meme.

You're a dumb meme.

 

[ll74]

You're a dumb meme.

Zing!

 

[RoryN]

AFA the U.S. goes, we predicted the middle class was going away. And...it's starting to go away.

I'd love to be an optimist on this one, but the math isn't pretty no matter which way you massage the numbers. This likely won't get solved.

 

[MajorRewrite]

If the trend you see is real (I’m not sure it is — billions have been lifted out of true abject poverty in India and China for instance) the problem may be somewhat self-correcting. Birth rates are below replacement level everywhere in the world except for Sub-Saharan Africa. As population slowly declines, there ought to be increased demand for human talents and more evenly distributed wealth.

Or maybe that Cherno dystopian nut is right. Who knows?

Google “optimistic science fiction” and read some of the recommendations. It might lift your spirits.

 

[butters]

here in the south, i see it as more of a catch-22 situation:

education is no.1... with decent, well-provisioned education the majority of the population would have a better grasp of how politics affects their world every single day. The importance of voting in their own interests would become apparent as they leave behind the propaganda and sound bites, the fox/oann/alex jones/gateway pundit/trump's truths/nationalistic 'christianity' etc....

voting... a well-informed public would have the means to make better decisions as to whom they vote into office, which would reflect then in the accessibility to voting, to a better education, to better job prospects, vastly improve healthcare, freedom of choices for lifestyles and more.

right now, the republican/maga influence makes sure the propaganda machine is well-oiled and feeding a daily unhealthy diet of lies and misinformation to an undereducated populace who largely believe it all.

 

[LLCox]

The future for society is not bright. Neither the Right or the Left know what moderation means. Greed has destroyed the economies of the world and robots will take what is left of self worth.

 

[wizzard426]

The future for society is not bright. Neither the Right or the Left know what moderation means. Greed has destroyed the economies of the world and robots will take what is left of self worth.

Just exactly what do I need to be "moderate" about?

Were "Adams, Jefferson, Washington" moderate?

 

[LLCox]

Were "Adams, Jefferson, Washington" moderate?

They were because everyone in America was pretty much the same, Socially and or "knew their place."