`Porno' proves a five-letter word for movie's ads, quoted from Yahoo.news

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`Porno' proves a five-letter word for movie's ads
By DAVID GERMAIN

LOS ANGELES - Kevin Smith made a movie with such a bothersome title he cannot even place ads for it in some places.

Some newspaper, TV and outdoor ads for Smith's comedy "Zack and Miri Make a Porno" have been rejected because of their content or the five-letter word that ends the title, said Gary Faber, head of marketing for the Weinstein Co., which is releasing the film.

Among those refusing to carry ads are about 15 newspapers and several TV stations and cable channels, Faber said. Commercials for the film during Los Angeles Dodgers games on Fox Sports were dropped at the team's request after some viewers complained, said Dodgers spokesman Josh Rawitch.

One complaint came from a man watching a game in September with his young son, who did not understand a suicide-squeeze bunt the Dodgers tried, Rawitch said.

"He was explaining to his son what a squeeze bunt was. Commercial break, the ad comes on, and the kid asks, `Dad, what does porno mean?'" Rawitch said. "Dodgers baseball has always been about family, and we've always been sensitive to the type of advertising that runs on our games."

The city of Philadelphia refused "Zack and Miri" posters at bus stops. Similar posters at Boston bus stops have drawn complaints from a child-development expert who said they are inappropriate for children.

Smith found it ironic that the posters have been a problem. Some playfully risque ads with images of "Zack and Miri" stars Seth Rogen and Elizabeth Banks were forbidden by the Motion Picture Association of America, which called the ads "highly sexually suggestive and not suitable for general audiences."

So Weinstein came up with posters using stick figures to represent the actors.

"The whole idea was, our hands were so tied on all previous entries we'd given them that this ad was meant to be the innocuous one that would get approved everywhere," Smith said.

Rina Cutler, Philadelphia deputy mayor for transportation, said the stick-figure posters were cute and clever but unacceptable for bus shelters where schoolchildren would see the word "porno."

"If they want to call the movie `Zack and Miri,' that's fine, but Zack and Miri cannot make a porno on my bus shelters," Cutler said.

Opening Oct. 31, "Zack and Miri" features Rogen and Banks as platonic best buddies and roommates who decide to make their own skin flick to dig themselves out of debt.

Diane Levin, an education professor specializing in child development at Boston's Wheelock College, said the posters at city bus stops send a message to children that working in the porn industry is an acceptable occupation.

"It's drawing attention to a movie which is mainstreaming and normalizing pornography, saying if you need money, this is what you do," said Levin, co-author of "So Sexy So Soon: The New Sexualized Childhood and What Parents Can Do to Protect Their Kids."

The stick-figure images are especially appealing to youngsters, since "stick figures are something for children," she said.

Weinstein marketing boss Faber countered: "It's a comedy. It's a joke. We're not advertising a porno. It's not a porno. The word `porno,' it's not supposed to turn you on. It's supposed to make you laugh."

The ratings board of the MPAA initially slapped "Zack and Miri" with an NC-17 rating, a box-office kiss of death because audiences view such films as explicit adult-only flicks. Smith appealed and talked the film down to an R rating.

Faber said the company has been able to place its ads in most of the outlets it has approached. For newspapers that rejected them because of the word "porno," Weinstein might play around with variations that exclude the title, he said.

The company developed a version of the stick-figure poster without the film's name, bearing the slogan, "Seth Rogen and Elizabeth Banks made a movie so outrageous that we can't even tell you the title."



I like Kevin Smith's sense of humor, so I am sure I will like this film. But as a parent, I can understand the desire to protect my kids from too much information too soon. A good article to share.

Allard
 
I see your point - I think children are over-sexualised and anything we can do to make childhood more childish is a good thing.
However...
When you see music videos with near-naked women practically dry humping R n B singers and adverts where people rolling around all over each other is supposed to promote a perfume I really don;t see why people are getting their knickers in such a twist over a simple *word*. Surely images are a far more invidious intrusion of sex into everyday life than words?

And whilst I don;t think children should *be* sexual before they're old enough that they're truly ready for it, I think witholding information about sex and what words mean is a dangerous path. If they're asking then tell them. Explain 'porno' as being a grown-up type of film. If they question you further then tell them it's about sex. If they question you about sex then it must be because they're ready to learn and I don;t think learning about it from their parent is such a bad way - gotta be better than learning off MTV, huh?

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Hmmm. Does that same bus shelter allow posters for whatever the slasher movie du jour is? I'm much more concerned about the message huge explosions and chain saws send.
 
Hmmm. Does that same bus shelter allow posters for whatever the slasher movie du jour is? I'm much more concerned about the message huge explosions and chain saws send.

Good point. What bothers me is this moralistic pronouncment from the original post:

OP said:
Diane Levin, an education professor specializing in child development at Boston's Wheelock College, said the posters at city bus stops send a message to children that working in the porn industry is an acceptable occupation.

Why isn't "working in the porn industry" and acceptable occupation?

I suppose vigilante mayhem or robbing a bank or casino is an acceptable occupation even though "working in the porn industry" isn't?
 
Exactly, Weird Harold. I thought the same thing. And what is wrong with working in the porn industry? The number of people it employs is staggering and sure to climb with the struggling economy. Porn is cheap entertainment, after all. My oldest son has worked in two porn shops, one in Medford, OR and now in Portland. And he is just the little guy.
 
Exactly, Weird Harold. I thought the same thing. And what is wrong with working in the porn industry? The number of people it employs is staggering and sure to climb with the struggling economy. Porn is cheap entertainment, after all. My oldest son has worked in two porn shops, one in Medford, OR and now in Portland. And he is just the little guy.

I didn't know there were little guys in porn.

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Hmmm. Does that same bus shelter allow posters for whatever the slasher movie du jour is? I'm much more concerned about the message huge explosions and chain saws send.

No, no, no! EVERYONE knows that kids will be scarred for life if they encounter words like "breast" or "penis" or "sex"; whereas it's prefectly harmless for them to witness in close-up how someone executes another person by slicing up his/her throat.
 
What a fucking country, child and slave labor is fine (out sight, out of mind), destroying jobs is fine, hell, heroic - bilking little old ladies out of their savings is fine, privatizing prisons is fine - uh, duh, they have to have prisoners to get paid, what do you think is going to happen?

But sex? Call the fucking SWAT team, something has to be done.
 
Why should we shield our children from our sexuality? My parents were having sex before I was old enough and it didn't seem imappropriate. Now that I am older, I understand they were having a lot more fun than I ever imagined, but what does that matter? Porn is just one aspect of human sexuality.
 
I understand that my view of pornography may not be the actual definition, but porn to me is a visual thing. It is a feast for the eyes. Removing the stimga of evil from this subject for a moment, pornography is the best visual stimulant there is, especially if a person is single. There is something very erotic about an erect penis, with or without a face. The same is true for beautiful breasts, etc. Looking at them makes me warm and tingly in all the right places. The porn industry is thriving because I am not alone in this. We all love a good picture or video. It is our very animal nature at work.
 
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