Porn on the road

[kellycummings]

Thought this was a sorta neat news story. Nothing that I think is all that controversial or anything but interesting.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/03/10/drive.by.porn.ap/index.html

 

[snooper]

Thought this was a sorta neat news story. Nothing that I think is all that controversial or anything but interesting.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/03/10/drive.by.porn.ap/index.html

I thought peering in through windows to see what people are doing inside was what was illegal.

In the UK this is called a "Peeping Tom", and the police need a search warrant to do it; anyone else is breaking the law.

 

[dreaming_lilith]

"You're not allowed to have sex in your car, so why are you allowed to watch it?"

Maybe they should make both legal instead

 

[Colleen Thomas]

In this case I am going to say I agree with the outraged. While peering into other people's cars might not be the most socially acceptable thing, it constitutes a lot of what kids do on when forced to remain stationary like they are in a car.

I don't have any particular problem with people in the back of the minivan enjoying an adult flick on the road trip, but I do feel if they are going to watch hardcore sex flicks they probably should put up curtains in the windows.

I don't have children, but I have driven a van full of them a couple of times. These were just short hops across town for a football game or soccer game. I suspect any parent who plans a road trip with the kids probably should be given complimntary valium at the state welcome centers. Kids cooped up in a car will do practically anything to relieve the restlesss enegry they build up. If the car stopped next to you at the rail road crossing has a DVD going, they are going to look.

Taking your kids on a road trip for family vacation can be very educational for them, I know it was for my family when we were young. I don't think, however, explaing to Jr. and his little sister what that guy was doing with his thing shoved in the girl's mouth should neccissarily be part of that education.

I don't feel that the law should forbid you from playing Debbie does Dallas vol. XVIII on your in car DVD. I just feel like common sense and common courtesy would dictate that you close the curtains, just like I would hope you would do if you were watching Bridgette the Midget takes on Mr. 14 inches at home on the 42 inch plasma television.

-Colly

 

[Guest]

 

[gauchecritic]

I don't have children, but I have driven a van full of them a couple of times. These were just short hops across town for a football game or soccer game.

Debbie does Dallas vol. XVIII

Bridgette the Midget takes on Mr. 14 inches -Colly

So let me get this straight Colly, you're a soccer mom (teehee) with a wealth of knowledge about obscure porn loops.
Now I see why you are the most influential writer on Lit.

But it all seems a bit alarmist when you consider one of the latest series of videos under headings like "Back seat bangers" or "Bangbus". These are tapes shot during daytime (for lighting presumably) driving along freeways, of 'innocent' (right) girls being lured into into vehicles and persuaded (with money) to have sex on the seat of the vehicle.

The most amusing concept of this 'genre' is when they lure a guy into the vehicle with promise of sex with a woman and then surprise him with the real reason; to have sex with another guy. and he agrees!

Gauche

 

[Colleen Thomas]

So let me get this straight Colly, you're a soccer mom (teehee) with a wealth of knowledge about obscure porn loops.
Now I see why you are the most influential writer on Lit.

But it all seems a bit alarmist when you consider one of the latest series of videos under headings like "Back seat bangers" or "Bangbus". These are tapes shot during daytime (for lighting presumably) driving along freeways, of 'innocent' (right) girls being lured into into vehicles and persuaded (with money) to have sex on the seat of the vehicle.

The most amusing concept of this 'genre' is when they lure a guy into the vehicle with promise of sex with a woman and then surprise him with the real reason; to have sex with another guy. and he agrees!

Gauche

LOL,

Not a mom, and defintely not a soccer mom. I was however of driving age and had no social life and my mom, in her generosity often volunteered me to drive the local kids to the games. My neighborhood consited almost exclusively of working class households where both parents worked. Until I left home for college and even some in the summers when I came back I was the surrogate soccer mom for the neighborhood. I never really minded, I would leave the kids at the game and their folks would get there when they got off work to watch the games and pick them up, but I defintely learned to respect folks who take hyperactive kids on a road trip to the end of the block, much less more involved journeys

I have seen some of the back seat bangers and bang bus offerings, mostly clips from the net. Not exactly sure what the thrill is there, unless it's the exhibishinist in the audience.

I am not an alarmist, I just would like to think people would be courteous enough to make sure kids weren't exposed to it. I don't have any problems with sex, don't think it's dirty or something kids aren't gonna become interested in sooner or later, but when you consider what goes on in some porno flicks I don't think a four year old, an eight year old or even a twelve year old should glance at the car next to you at the stoplight and get an eye full of some of it.

I am all for you being able to watch whatever floats your boat on your in car DVD player. I just think that if you are watching Buttman in Brazil or Smoker that you should take the time to make sure the kid in the back seat of the car next you isn't watching it with you.

-Colly

 

[coyotepondering]

Re: Re: Porn on the road

I thought peering in through windows to see what people are doing inside was what was illegal.

In the UK this is called a "Peeping Tom", and the police need a search warrant to do it; anyone else is breaking the law.

It varies state by state. I'm very familiar with NC laws on this due to my job and here its illegal to show anything with graphic nudity without special permission in a public forum (for art shows and such). Anything construed as easily viable in a public space is considred a public forum. So, seeing inside a car counts. Things like art galleries and movie theaters are exempt since you have to gain entry (unless the art is hanging in a window for example).

I imagine most states are similar in their definitions of public.

 

[Vincent E]

How could someone think putting a porn video into a car video player was a good idea?

I'm still trying to work out who thought putting a DVD player in a motor vehicle was a good idea. I love electronic gadgets as much as any red-blooded American man, but there has to be a limit.

 

[rgraham666]

I just feel like common sense and common courtesy would dictate that you close the curtains, just like I would hope you would do if you were watching Bridgette the Midget takes on Mr. 14 inches at home on the 42 inch plasma television.

-Colly

Unfortunately Colleen, these things are not as common as they should be.

 

[Guest]

I'm still trying to work out who thought putting a DVD player in a motor vehicle was a good idea. I love electronic gadgets as much as any red-blooded American man, but there has to be a limit.

Yea, Vincenzo. My sons learned to read early. They did a lot of it in cars. I never bought them electronic games either.

Perdita

 

[lucky-E-leven]

Kids can't win

Drunken Dad Asks 11-Year-Old Son to Drive
Thu Mar 11, 8:14 AM ET Add Oddly Enough - Reuters to My Yahoo!

DALLAS (Reuters) - A Texas man did the drinking and decided to let his 11-year-old son, who was barely able to see over the steering wheel, do the driving, police said.

Police said on Wednesday they had arrested Robert Lee Crider on charges of child endangerment, public intoxication and having an open container of alcohol in his vehicle.

Crider's son was pulled over by a Texas state trooper outside of the west Texas town of Big Spring in the predawn hours of Saturday after the officer saw the car speeding and weaving through traffic, said Sgt. Jason Hester, a spokesman for the Texas Department of Public Safety.

Crider apparently was taking his son home for the weekend as a part of a custody arrangement with his ex-wife. Crider and a friend stopped off at a bar with the boy, and when the two adults became too drunk to drive, they handed the keys of the rental car over to the boy.

The boy was pulled over just as the group started on a trip of some 200 miles to Crider's home. They had passed several motels before they were stopped by the trooper, Hester said.

Police fed the boy a grilled cheese sandwich, found a mattress for him to sleep on and called his mother, who picked him up and drove him back to her home.

 

[snooper]

Re: Kids can't win

... They had passed several motels before they were stopped by the trooper, Hester said. ...

Not trying to condone what he did, but a man trying to check in to a motel with an eleven year old boy is very liable to be arrested as a paedo.

 

[kellycummings]

Yea, Vincenzo. My sons learned to read early. They did a lot of it in cars. I never bought them electronic games either.

Perdita

3 of my kids can't read so the dvd player has been a godsend. Sure, I know all the Wiggles songs by heart and want to use Nemo for bait but it keeps them from killing each other.

I've always read on long trips but my hubby and my mom and my brother all get bad headaches when they try to read in a moving car. I think that just happens with some people, doesn't bother me though.

 

[McKenna]

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[Vincent E]

Yea, Vincenzo. My sons learned to read early. They did a lot of it in cars. I never bought them electronic games either.

Perdita

My brother and I just sat in the back seat and fought all the way to wherever we we going.

Vincent's Brother: Don't hit me.
Vincent: Stop being a baby. smack
Vincent's Brother: Mom, he hit me again.
Vincent: Nobody like a tattle-tale. smack
Vincent's Brother: Mom make him stop.
Vincent's Mom: Vincent stop.
Vincent: What? I didn't do anything. He started it.
Vincent's Brother: No I didn't.
Vincent: Yes you did. you put your foot on my side. kick
Vincent's Brother: No I didn't. kick
Vincent: kick
Vincent's Brother: (whining) Stop it. kick
Vincent: You stop. smack
Vincent's Mom: Both of you stop it!
Vincent: But he started it.
Vincent's Brother: You started it. kick
Vincent: No, you started it. whack
Vincent's Mom: Both of you stop it! Now!
Vincent: See what you started.
Vincent's Brother: You started it. kick
Vincent: (whining) Mom, he keeps kicking me.
Vincent's Brother: He keeps hitting me. kick
Vincent's Father: That's it! One more word out of either of you and I'm going to pull this car over and leave you both by the side of the road. And I hope the gypsies come and take you away for good!

And there was peace in the backseat of the car, and they all lived happily ever after... until the next family trip.

Come on Kelly, forget the electronic gadgets and do some real parenting.

 

[kellycummings]

Vincent's Father: That's it! One more word out of either of you and I'm going to pull this car over and leave you both by the side of the road. And I hope the gypsies come and take you away for good!

And there was peace in the backseat of the car, and they all lived happily ever after... until the next family trip.

Come on Kelly, forget the electronic gadgets and do some real parenting. [/B]

I thought my parents were the only ones who threatened to sell me to the gypsies. Nice to know I wasn't alone.

Real parenting on our trips consists of doing whatever possible to prevent my oldest son from hitting, kicking and trying to jump out of the van on the highway. Also gotta stop my youngest daughter from screaming like a banshee because her brother is doing the aformentioned activities. A movie stops it. Me or hubby yelling (which does happen, believe me) only makes it worse since they are unable to understand most of what we are saying and they thrive on the fact that they are getting a reaction.
The dvd and gameboy give peace and quiet to long trips and the inventors are my heroes.

 

[Vincent E]

The dvd and gameboy give peace and quiet to long trips and the inventors are my heroes.

Kelly's Son: I want to hold the remote.
Kelly's Daughter: No, it's my turn.
Kelly's Son: No it isn't. You had it last time.
Kelly's Daughter: That doesn't count.
Kelly's Son: Yes it does. You had it last time.
Kelly's Daughter: No it doesn't. That was just a quick trip to the store.
Kelly's Son: (Taking away remote) That still counts.
Kelly's Daughter: (Fighting to take remote back and whining) No it doesn't.
Kelly's Son: (Slapping sister's hand away) Yes it does, you big baby. whack
Kelly's Daughter: (Whining) Don't call me a baby. slapAnd give me the remote back.
Kelly: (To husband) If we stop at that Denny's over there and tell them to use the bathroom, we can be across the state line before they realize that we aren't coming back.

 

[kellycummings]

Kelly's Son: I want to hold the remote.
Kelly's Daughter: No, it's my turn.
Kelly's Son: No it isn't. You had it last time.
Kelly's Daughter: That doesn't count.
Kelly's Son: Yes it does. You had it last time.
Kelly's Daughter: No it doesn't. That was just a quick trip to the store.
Kelly's Son: (Taking away remote) That still counts.
Kelly's Daughter: (Fighting to take remote back and whining) No it doesn't.
Kelly's Son: (Slapping sister's hand away) Yes it does, you big baby. whack
Kelly's Daughter: (Whining) Don't call me a baby. slapAnd give me the remote back.
Kelly: (To husband) If we stop at that Denny's over there and tell them to use the bathroom, we can be across the state line before they realize that we aren't coming back.

Oh, if only that were so. I would be ecstatic to hear them yell at each other like that. That last line is true though, don't think we haven't thought about it.

 

[Vincent E]

Kelly: Honestly sir, this is all just one big mistake. My husband and I thought the kids were asleep in the back seat.
State Trooper: Yes ma'am. I must remind you that anything you say can be used in court against you.
Kelly: But really, we would never intentonally leave the kids in the restroom at Denny's. We thought they were asleep.
State Trooper: Yes ma'am, if you say so. Now please place your hands behind your back.
Kelly: Honey, tell the officer that this is just a big mistake.
Kelly's Husband: Dear, would you puh-lease stop talking until we have a lawyer.
State Trooper: That might be a good idea, sir.
Kelly: Oh my God, oh my God. I can't believe this is happening. (hyperventilates)
State Trooper: Control this is 4572, would you run a warrant check on the name Cummings, Kelly.
Kelly: Warrants? Oh now you can't think that...
State Trooper: Yes control, thank-you. Ma'am it seems we have a matter of several outstanding warrants.
Kelly: But that can't be me. It must be another Kelly Cummings.
State Trooper: I don't think so ma'am. Larceny, bad checks, and littering.
Kelly's Husband: I knew you were acting strange lately.
Kelly: Honey, you can't mean that.
Kelly's Husband: Don't give me any of that 'Honey' stuff. Officer it was all her idea; she masterminded the whole plot to leave the kids at Denny's. I had to go along with her.
Kelly: Honey, what are you saying?
State Trooper: I think he's trying to get himself a better deal ma'am.
Kelly: You bastard!

 

[kellycummings]

Kelly: Honestly sir, this is all just one big mistake. My husband and I thought the kids were asleep in the back seat.
State Trooper: Yes ma'am. I must remind you that anything you say can be used in court against you.
Kelly: But really, we would never intentonally leave the kids in the restroom at Denny's. We thought they were asleep.
State Trooper: Yes ma'am, if you say so. Now please place your hands behind your back.
Kelly: Honey, tell the officer that this is just a big mistake.
Kelly's Husband: Dear, would you puh-lease stop talking until we have a lawyer.
State Trooper: That might be a good idea, sir.
Kelly: Oh my God, oh my God. I can't believe this is happening. (hyperventilates)
State Trooper: Control this is 4572, would you run a warrant check on the name Cummings, Kelly.
Kelly: Warrants? Oh now you can't think that...
State Trooper: Yes control, thank-you. Ma'am it seems we have a matter of several outstanding warrants.
Kelly: But that can't be me. It must be another Kelly Cummings.
State Trooper: I don't think so ma'am. Larceny, bad checks, and littering.
Kelly's Husband: I knew you were acting strange lately.
Kelly: Honey, you can't mean that.
Kelly's Husband: Don't give me any of that 'Honey' stuff. Officer it was all her idea; she masterminded the whole plot to leave the kids at Denny's. I had to go along with her.
Kelly: Honey, what are you saying?
State Trooper: I think he's trying to get himself a better deal ma'am.
Kelly: You bastard!

No jury would ever convict me. I'm sure of it. I have home movies. I could show them in court. That's all it would take. They'd set me free and give me their sympathies.

 

[SlickTony]

Not trying to condone what he did, but a man trying to check in to a motel with an eleven year old boy is very liable to be arrested as a paedo.

Oh, jeez! Can't anything be what it seems? When we moved to Jacksonville, I drove there by myself so I could scope us out a place to live while my husband worked the last days of his job and saw to getting the stuff in the house packed up to move. Naturally the kid, who was 7, stayed with him--I was staying with a couple we knew from on line (we had met a few times, at weekend parties). Besides, the kid adored hanging out with his dad at the TV station. He was almost like a mascot; they used him as a model for their Dress for the Weather feature in the morning, and during the party they gave my husband on his last night (following which he had to direct the news as usual) the reporters picked him up and danced with him.

Since my husband was doing all the driving and he was, morever, transporting the cats as well, naturally they broke their journey in Pascagoula. The two guys checked into a hotel there. I don't think there was any thought on the part of the staff that they were there for any other reason than the one they stated. They even promised to look the other way while the cats were brought in.

Have we really lost our grip that much since then?