Pootin not ready to call Biden the winner

[LLCox]

Apparently the ballots from the Moscow suburbs have not been counted yet.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...cognize-biden-win/ar-BB1bfHNx?ocid=uxbndlbing

https://www.pauljorion.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/180719070509-trump-putin-time-magazine-073018-exlarge-169.jpg

 

[KeithD]

Of course not. Putin is having too much fun watching what his game plan, as acted out by his asset, Donald Trump, and aided by the Trumpettes, including those posting to this board, is doing in shredding the American system.

 

[CornusKousa]

Of course not. Putin is having too much fun watching what his game plan, as acted out by his asset, Donald Trump, and aided by the Trumpettes, including those posting to this board, is doing in shredding the American system.

By working within it??

LOL

Nobody is shredding anything ya fuckin' loon.

 

[BusterDown]

Well, I hope he hurries up n sends in the votes we need

 

[phrodeau]

And Joe Biden gives not one shit.

 

[PaxNurgle]

Trump's actions as a Putin puppet have been so obvious for four years now, it is really shocking how so many people have not been outraged by it and called for his outright arrest for treason.

When I was a kid, growing up under Reagan, any politician suspecting of colluding with Russia, or even taking a soft line on Russia, guilty or not, would have been tarred and feathered and run out of town with pitchforks and torches. By hard-line conservatives, no less. Now, suddenly, these same people- the hard line conservatives- are kissing Trump's ass- for blatantly letting a Russian leader own him.

I fucking don't get it. Cornus Botanus, are you seriously some kind of Russian bot? (I have long suspected that you were, but I would really like an open admission.)

 

[BusterDown]

Trump's actions as a Putin puppet have been so obvious for four years now, it is really shocking how so many people have not been outraged by it and called for his outright arrest for treason.

When I was a kid, growing up under Reagan, any politician suspecting of colluding with Russia, or even taking a soft line on Russia, guilty or not, would have been tarred and feathered and run out of town with pitchforks and torches. By hard-line conservatives, no less. Now, suddenly, these same people- the hard line conservatives- are kissing Trump's ass- for blatantly letting a Russian leader own him.

I fucking don't get it. Cornus Botanus, are you seriously some kind of Russian bot? (I have long suspected that you were, but I would really like an open admission.)

for instance?

 

[Dribble]

But Donald just paid back Putin by pulling out of the Safe Skies program. What is the program you ask? You know...the one that allows any EU country and the US to fly over other countries airspace on short notice to take pictures of military positions and exercises. The one that every country except Russia wanted. So...is America safer? Nope. That is why it is known as treason. Anyone supporting a traitor...is a traitor.

 

[LLCox]

But Donald just paid back Putin by pulling out of the Safe Skies program.

With satellites that can read a newspaper headline you would think keeping planes OUT of the sky would be the safest.

 

[Dribble]

With satellites that can read a newspaper headline you would think keeping planes OUT of the sky would be the safest.

Sigh...Let me educate you...there are not stationary satellites everywhere. That means the satellite MUST pass over the desired region. One can wait 6 hours...or you can have the info within the hour. Sure makes moving missiles easy when you know when the satellite flies over. Go back to playing your Xbox and leave national security to our professional forces...that are on record saying this was a bad idea

 

[LLCox]

But Donald just paid back Putin by pulling out of the Safe Skies program. What is the program you ask? You know...the one that allows any EU country and the US to fly over other countries airspace on short notice to take pictures of military positions and exercises. The one that every country except Russia wanted. So...is America safer? Nope. That is why it is known as treason. Anyone supporting a traitor...is a traitor.

KMA, son.

Russia has constantly violated the program and China hates that we pulled out even though they are not part of the program.

https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/ne...at-US-withdrawal-from-open-skies-15747209.php

 

[wheres_the_beef]

Sigh...Let me educate you...

The issues you address with satellite observation are mostly not solved by the Open Skies treaty.

All flights under the treaty must be conducted with a commercially available sensor package. By itself that limits capability. Most parties have better available in their satellites and for non-Open Skies ISR flights. To ensure compliance with that sensor limit, the plane is subject to inspection before take off and carries personnel from the country being overflown to observe. The flights are short notice but you are not getting data within the hour. TThey know we are coming in advance. The flights are also extremely limited in number so it is not like we can routinely target the windows where there is no satellite coverage. Routinely tracking something like mobile missiles is just not helped much by Open Skies flights.

There are benefits to the program that make security experts generally support the treaty. You just didn't cover any.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The issues you address with satellite observation are mostly not solved by the Open Skies treaty.

All flights under the treaty must be conducted with a commercially available sensor package. By itself that limits capability. Most parties have better available in their satellites and for non-Open Skies ISR flights. To ensure compliance with that sensor limit, the plane is subject to inspection before take off and carries personnel from the country being overflown to observe. The flights are short notice but you are not getting data within the hour. TThey know we are coming in advance. The flights are also extremely limited in number so it is not like we can routinely target the windows where there is no satellite coverage. Routinely tracking something like mobile missiles is just not helped much by Open Skies flights.

There are benefits to the program that make security experts generally support the treaty. You just didn't cover any.

You sure about the bolded part above? I'm not saying you're wrong, I just cannot imagine countries allowing observers on their spy planes.

 

[Dribble]

The issues you address with satellite observation are mostly not solved by the Open Skies treaty.

All flights under the treaty must be conducted with a commercially available sensor package. By itself that limits capability. Most parties have better available in their satellites and for non-Open Skies ISR flights. To ensure compliance with that sensor limit, the plane is subject to inspection before take off and carries personnel from the country being overflown to observe. The flights are short notice but you are not getting data within the hour. TThey know we are coming in advance. The flights are also extremely limited in number so it is not like we can routinely target the windows where there is no satellite coverage. Routinely tracking something like mobile missiles is just not helped much by Open Skies flights.

There are benefits to the program that make security experts generally support the treaty. You just didn't cover any.

Like I said...I leave National Security to our military experts. What I know...is that none of our allies are happy. Trump is a traitor...and anyone supporting Trump, likewise is a traitor. Pretty simple.

 

[nowisthetime]

Pootie wants to see the downfall of America.


Dump's supporters are too stupid to understand this concept. Or they don't care because they actually hate this country as well, mad because it's not the 1950s anymore.

 

[wheres_the_beef]

You sure about the bolded part above? I'm not saying you're wrong, I just cannot imagine countries allowing observers on their spy planes.

Yes.

These are not normal spy planes. These are planes configured to conduct this mission. The sensors are available to every signatory. There is no reason to try and hide what sensors you have and their capability. All the data is accessible to every signatory as well. There is no reason to try and hide what we actually saw during the flight, either. The Open Skies treaty requires all data be shared with other signatories that request it.

When we overflew Russia under the treaty they knew both where we were and everything we saw or didn't see.

 

[Lazaran]

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I'm sure Biden doesn't give a fuck if Putin recognizes him as the legitimate POTUS, because Biden sure as hell doesn't consider Putin the legitimate POR.

 

[Just4AFriend]

But Donald just paid back Putin by pulling out of the Safe Skies program. What is the program you ask? You know...the one that allows any EU country and the US to fly over other countries airspace on short notice to take pictures of military positions and exercises. The one that every country except Russia wanted. So...is America safer? Nope. That is why it is known as treason. Anyone supporting a traitor...is a traitor.

Add to this treason ... not approved by Congress... he is destroying the planes we used and ordered no new ones

No worries !! Russia would never invade any countries these days !

Fucking Putin Hand Puppet !!

 

[RobDownSouth]

Yes.

These are not normal spy planes. These are planes configured to conduct this mission. The sensors are available to every signatory. There is no reason to try and hide what sensors you have and their capability. All the data is accessible to every signatory as well. There is no reason to try and hide what we actually saw during the flight, either. The Open Skies treaty requires all data be shared with other signatories that request it.

When we overflew Russia under the treaty they knew both where we were and everything we saw or didn't see.

Well how about that....I had no idea. Thanks for sharing.

 

[renard_ruse]

Of course not. Putin is having too much fun watching what his game plan, as acted out by his asset, Donald Trump, and aided by the Trumpettes, including those posting to this board, is doing in shredding the American system.

Russia is a more or less free market democracy. I would laugh at you weirdos for this strange phobia of a free market democracy but if Harris/ Biden manage to be illegitimately installed they are likely to provoke a nuclear war with Russia, which has thousands of nuclear weapons so its really not funny.

It just doesn't make sense.

 

[zipman]

When Putin finally does call, Biden should let him sit on hold for a few minutes so Putin realizes he no longer has a fawning, willing puppet to do his bidding.