Poll. George W. --resolute?

[Lucifer_Carroll]

My anti-political rant

All this election and in fact most of the politics of the last year has proved to me is that Americans are officially too stupid to live. All the bullshit, spin, war-worship, blatant xenophobia, blatant homophobia, complete dumbassness, retro terrorism drills that feel like nuke drills, pundit worship, lost news stories, overblown non-news stories, mankind's inescapable ability to disappoint even the most lowered expectations, and the overpowering knowledge that nothing including alien invasion could split our country's 50/50 tendency has proved to me that politics no longer has any bearing. We should make ourselves a dictatorship and be done with it. The endless slaughter will be cheered anyways. Frankly, Russia should nuke us now and spare us whatever hell we'll shovel on ourselves this next presidential term.

So, you don't like that? Sorry, but frankly the bullshit has won. It's over. A president can officially get away with anything. Absolute power is within the grasp of anyone who is enough of a bastard to sieze it. "The grand experiment" is over, because most of mankind can make a box of rocks look like Albert Fucking-Einstein.

Yeah, my nihilism has hit its peak as far as politics goes. It is only because of personal relationships, science, and fiction that I haven't given up all hope for humanity and gone off to weep in a cave somewhere. Thank all of you here at Literotica for helping keep my oh so tenuous romanticism still in check.

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

I believe that George the Lesser is resident for the same reason that Paris Hilton has her own TV show.

I’m just not certain what that is.

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

Liberals...get a job!

Got 3. 4 if you include being a full-time student. 8 if you include all the shit that I do without getting paid.

I'm touched though that you believe I need more. I'll be sure to include time in the "why don't you suck my cock" line for your mind-lacking rants so you can expound on that sympathy.

Frankly ami, if you didn't stroke my ego and my cock as often as you do, I might agree with the rest of this forum's dislike of you.

 

[LadyJeanne]

I'm not surprised the Trib endorsed Bush - I don't think they've ever endorsed a Democrat for president. It makes sense that they would rationalize their endorsement by framing it in terms of resolution against terror to the exclusion of everything else. The quote from the editorial that really made me pause:

"Some years, though, force vectors we didn't anticipate turn some of our usual priorities--our pet causes, our own economic interest--into narcissistic luxuries. As Election Day nears, the new force vectors drive our decision-making."

I don't consider the economy, jobs, taxes, the national debt, the federal deficit, health care, poverty, housing, education, the environment, civil rights, and privacy rights to be narcissistic luxuries. Regardless of how we fight a war on terror, if we trivialize the importance of issues that impact our daily lives and those of our children, we capitulate to the terrorists. If we focus on terror to the exclusion of every other issue germaine to our way of life, we are already defeated.

Resolute or not, I don't support the way this administration is making its decisions, nor do I support their unalterable belief that they have chosen the correct and only way to fight terror. After 9/11, this administration squandered an unprecedented opportunity to truly lead the world in the development of a cooperative global network of nations committed to controlling terrorism. That the administration will not deviate from this position in any way is what makes me afraid.

Stomping on a hornet's nest does not kill all the hornets, no matter how big and heavy the boots nor how resolute the cowboy.

 

[Quiet_Cool]

Cant: Um... did he say he was a Bush-fan? At least not in this thread. What's the beef?

Quiet: Quityer bitchin and startup some non-politic threads then.

Nicely said, Liar, and perfectly accurate. I hate to rant, but truthfully, once we reach about twenty or so threads on a given topic on a board where they don't belong, people should start considering whether or not to take it to another board, like the Gb, or whatever other board this topic might be more appropriate for.
A thread here and there is one thing, especially when the topic is of interest to those who frequent the board, like this topic, but there's a limit to what we should consider acceptable.
And Cant, dude, I'm not even a Republican. What the hell?! Are you that angry at the world for not always agreeing with you?

* What is this, a dress rehearsal for Peter Pan? I do believe in fairies! I do! I do! I DO!

So do I, but I guess they can only get married in certain designated states...

 

[cantdog]

I have been hearing this no-more-politics crap from every republican on the AH, and it's because the non-repubs dominate here.

The silly frivolous threads probably belong to the GB as much as this kind does. But we like it here, and we like talking to each other without some penis barging in. So we post the silly threads and the political ones and all the others for each other. There are no lack of takers when either sort of thread is put up.

If you aren't a Republican, and my only criterion was that I got a snide thumbs-down on the notion of a Bush-bashing thread, then I spoke out of turn.

I had fun ranting though, which was my intent at the time. To rant, to have fun ranting. Liar was perfectly correct. I do have a tendency to go off half-cocked when I'm feeling up.

No harm intended. Just satanic joy. I can feel the wind shifting, and so can the vote-suppressing republicans in Ohio and Michigan, Florida and even here.

If the vote count is up, the asses are out. And they know that.

 

[shereads]

I don't consider the economy, jobs, taxes, the national debt, the federal deficit, health care, poverty, housing, education, the environment, civil rights, and privacy rights to be narcissistic luxuries.

I hear you. I just listened to a debate between two Florida candidates for the U.S. Senate. The candidate whose party begins with "R" referred to virtually every category of spending other than the military budget as "discretionary" spending. We can't reduce military spending, he explained, because it keeps America safe. How is it that people can be considered safe while they are jobless, homeless, uninsured, and raising kids in cities where the air quality is so poor that one in four children has asthsma? Like you, I wonder how the Tribune draws the line between luxury and necessity.

Republicans seem to use Terror rhetoric as the all-purpose answer to every question they're uncomfortable addressing. (Like, "Why should this president be re-elected?") The fact remains that millions of American families and elderly live with hazards far more pervasive in their daily lives than the chance that they might become terrorist victims. If I couldn't find work, had run out of unemployment benefits, had no medical insurance and faced the prospect of homelessness, I wouldn't be afraid of al Queda. I'd be afraid of George W. Bush.

If ever there was a narcissistic luxury, it's the war in Iraq.

 

[Guest]

. . .I'm touched though that you believe I need more. I'll be sure to include time in the "why don't you suck my cock" line for your mind-lacking rants so you can expound on that sympathy.

Frankly ami, if you didn't stroke my ego and my cock as often as you do, I might agree with the rest of this forum's dislike of you.

Just spilled my drink!

 

[amicus]

Finding anyone pro Bush on this forum for the last 8 months would be a challenge....this is and has been a group grope, masturbatory exercise in futility by a handful of regulars that discourage discussion of anything not to their liking.

I can name names...but then...you know who you are...

Insofar as the insults and the crude language by the coterie' of regulars...it only confirms my opinion of your character and the paucity of your intellectual capacity...not a surprise to anyone.

I found another forum to play with..."I Love Philosophy.com" but, they are just as left as you folks and not near as much fun. They are actually polite in their disagreements.

oh well...


amicus...

 

[Quiet_Cool]

If you aren't a Republican, and my only criterion was that I got a snide thumbs-down on the notion of a Bush-bashing thread, then I spoke out of turn.

Okay, so if that's an apology, then I accept; and all is cool.

 

[Somme]

Finding anyone pro Bush on this forum for the last 8 months would be a challenge....this is and has been a group grope, masturbatory exercise in futility by a handful of regulars that discourage discussion of anything not to their liking.

I can name names...but then...you know who you are...

Insofar as the insults and the crude language by the coterie' of regulars...it only confirms my opinion of your character and the paucity of your intellectual capacity...not a surprise to anyone.

I found another forum to play with..."I Love Philosophy.com" but, they are just as left as you folks and not near as much fun. They are actually polite in their disagreements.

oh well...


amicus...

I too am also always polite.
So take it from me, politely of course, that you, sir, are sadly a prat.

I don't think you're unintelligent - just a selfish, blind prat.

(nods)......that'll do.

 

[Somme]

...and resolute?

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4921.shtml .............? Anyone know more 'bout this?

 

[cantdog]

Finding anyone pro Bush on this forum for the last 8 months would be a challenge....this is and has been a group grope, masturbatory exercise in futility by a handful of regulars that discourage discussion of anything not to their liking.

I can name names...but then...you know who you are...

Insofar as the insults and the crude language by the coterie' of regulars...it only confirms my opinion of your character and the paucity of your intellectual capacity...not a surprise to anyone.

I found another forum to play with..."I Love Philosophy.com" but, they are just as left as you folks and not near as much fun. They are actually polite in their disagreements.

oh well...


amicus...

Pro Bushies are on the AH; many more on the GB. Pull head up, take in new data.

 

[cantdog]

Somme! Wow!

These guys actually thought they'd concealed Reagan's dementia?

(And a demented president is somehow less of a problem than a megalomaniac? I'm sure the good of the country is extremely high on the list. Not the power nor the money, either; surely not.)

So let's have a poll in a new thread. It doesn't look like Prozac, but it does look a lot like Wellbutrin to me. Any ideas on the subject?

the link again

 

[Quiet_Cool]

...and resolute?

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4921.shtml .............? Anyone know more 'bout this?

I checked the polls on this CapitalBlue site, and it says 75.7% of people are voting for Kerry. Something tells me this site is far too pro-Kerry to really have any accurate and notable information, especially when you consider the articles are blatantly critical, even to the point that their titles, while not necessarily representing their content, are all anti-Bush, one saying he thinks we're all stupid and another criticizing his spelling (again, that's the titles).
Nothing this swayed can be accurate or fairly representational.
Just my viewpoint.

 

[cantdog]

Quiet_Cool, pard, forgive me, the direction I aimed the rant was unwarranted.

But your point is a little strange. We have writerly threads: and two of them are NaNo, one a Halloween contest support. I mean, strictly writer threads turn up, we help someone with a word or a technical subject, we hear about a success one of us is having in placing their work in publication. I suppose a moderator, if we had one, would allow the endless carping about the low votes we get once in a while.

But it would be wicked dull here without something else to prattle about. For me, watching the hooked fish fight his doom is part of the fun in an election year. I like to discuss morality and spirituality, parenting and emotions, love and death, too. I don't play flash games or much like to even look at them, but a lot of the malarkey here that makes up the daily grist builds community. Just as politics does, in its way. Not building, you know, One Community, but we do discover commonalties in each other. Without the political threads, I would have felt little in common with Colly, certainly nothing like the way we can esteem each other now.

Besides which, the more people get out and vote in this one, the more positive the result of it will be. Keeping interest high militates toward the better outcome.

cantdog

 

[impressive]

I checked the polls on this CapitalBlue site, and it says 75.7% of people are voting for Kerry.

I read this morning (and not for the first time) that the pollsters' failure to include the segments of the population that use only wireless phones is skewing the results of all polls big time.

Still scared ...

 

[Quiet_Cool]

Quiet_Cool, pard, forgive me, the direction I aimed the rant was unwarranted.

But your point is a little strange. We have writerly threads: and two of them are NaNo, one a Halloween contest support. I mean, strictly writer threads turn up, we help someone with a word or a technical subject, we hear about a success one of us is having in placing their work in publication. I suppose a moderator, if we had one, would allow the endless carping about the low votes we get once in a while.

But it would be wicked dull here without something else to prattle about. For me, watching the hooked fish fight his doom is part of the fun in an election year. I like to discuss morality and spirituality, parenting and emotions, love and death, too. I don't play flash games or much like to even look at them, but a lot of the malarkey here that makes up the daily grist builds community. Just as politics does, in its way. Not building, you know, One Community, but we do discover commonalties in each other. Without the political threads, I would have felt little in common with Colly, certainly nothing like the way we can esteem each other now.

Besides which, the more people get out and vote in this one, the more positive the result of it will be. Keeping interest high militates toward the better outcome.

cantdog

I see your point, and I don't feel that every thread should be bumped off the board when it isn't appropriate (of course, that's exactly what we do one the ORP board, and some people react far too strongly to it--a guy actually sent me threatening PMs over it, can you believe that?), especially on a board where so many people come to get away from the GB bs and there're only so many topics to discuss within the scope of the board's overall topics. I just find it overbearing that political threads are in the abundance they're in here. I like to discuss those things too, and do so more than I should (hell, I checked out that website and have posted on more than one political thread here, on this board even). I reacted less to the actual topic of the thread or its nature, than I did the fact that there're everywhere here.
No offense intended.

 

[Wildcard Ky]

Kerry or Bush, my eection day party will begin a wake before the fist vote is cast.

is he resolute? yes. In the same manner a child is resolute that his Daddy is the biggest, strongest smartest man in the world. resolution from an ignorance of other oprions is still a powerful resolution.

Personally, I think we have four more years of GWB coming.

-Colly

Resolute and stubborn are pretty close aren't they? I think he's a whole lot of either/both. Sometimes, too much for his own good.

I also agree with Colly that he will win. The Dems had their chance to put up a good candidate against a VERY beatable GWB. They chose Kerry.

 

[cantdog]

...
I also agree with Colly that he will win. The Dems had their chance to put up a good candidate against a VERY beatable GWB. They chose Kerry.

Wildcard! What's up, where ya been? I expected you to weigh in on the thread about the teenage re-enacter going to trial for possession of a replica Civil War musket.

But you never said boo. You must have been busy with real life the past few.

Things going well?

 

[shereads]

I see your point, and I don't feel that every thread should be bumped off the board when it isn't appropriate (of course, that's exactly what we do one the ORP board, and some people react far too strongly to it--a guy actually sent me threatening PMs over it, can you believe that?), especially on a board where so many people come to get away from the GB bs and there're only so many topics to discuss within the scope of the board's overall topics. I just find it overbearing that political threads are in the abundance they're in here. I like to discuss those things too, and do so more than I should (hell, I checked out that website and have posted on more than one political thread here, on this board even). I reacted less to the actual topic of the thread or its nature, than I did the fact that there're everywhere here.
No offense intended.

Quiet, I think there's an unusual focus on politics this year, not just here but wherever there's a group of informed adults. I was never this obsessed with politics. But there's never been so much at stake.

A single-party government - one ideology controlling the Executive, Judicial and Legisative branches - is unprecedented in U.S. history. That their ideology is religion-based, anti-pornography, anti-gay rights, anti-choice on abortion, questions the right to privacy, and is motivated to imperialism is terrifying to a lot of us. The Supreme Court is a single nomination away from the majority that's necessary to change this country forever.

Consider what makes this election unlike any other:

The significance of the proposed Gay Marriage Amendment has less to do with gay marriage than with the fact that it signals a new use of constitutional amendments: instead of adding a group of people to those who are guaranteed equal protection, it eliminates one. It singles out certain people as different for the first time in our history.

They won't be alone for long. Women will join them when there's an amendment to criminalize abortion, which is the logical next step once Roe v. Wade is overturned.

The court is no more than two votes away from upholding Ashcroft's challenge to habeus corpus, a right as old as the Magna Carta. "Inalienable rights" will no longer mean anything.

Some of us are more afraid than others. I'm scared to death. I can ignore it to an extent, as I try to when I post on other topics. But it's never far from my mind.

I can't forget that Literotica is one of the freedoms that's under attack.

 

[Wildcard Ky]

Wildcard! What's up, where ya been? I expected you to weigh in on the thread about the teenage re-enacter going to trial for possession of a replica Civil War musket.

But you never said boo. You must have been busy with real life the past few.

Things going well?

I've been so busy I'm not even sure what day it is anymore!

I completely missed that thread. I'll have to go find it. Sounds like something I might enjoy throwing a rant on!

 

[cantdog]

I think it was called "Cut me a fuckin break" or something along that line.