Poll: 59% of Californians now support gay marriage

[mercury14]

59% of Californians support gay marriage while a paltry 34% oppose it.

"The survey showed that even among groups with majorities opposed to gay marriage, the opposition is diminishing. In 2010, 66 percent of Republicans and 72 percent of conservatives said they opposed gay marriage. In 2012, 55 percent of Republicans and 63 percent of conservatives said they opposed gay marriage.

In 2010, Californians 65 and older opposed gay marriage 42 percent to 51 percent. In 2012, the same group split 45-45 on the issue."

Even opposition from Republicans is on the verge of falling beneath 50%. Given all this, does the Republican Party still have the mantle of "The Party of Personal Freedom"?

Here's the article from that liberal rag, the Christian Science Monitor:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Societ...iage-rises-among-California-voters-poll-finds

 

[pornstarwannabe]

59% of Californians support gay marriage while a paltry 34% oppose it.



Even opposition from Republicans is on the verge of falling beneath 50%. Given all this, does the Republican Party still have the mantle of "The Party of Personal Freedom"?

Here's the article from that liberal rag, the Christian Science Monitor:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Societ...iage-rises-among-California-voters-poll-finds

Considering that Prop 8 was passed by Californians that give a shit (they cared enough to get off their asses to vote), the poll is meaningless.

 

[GiaCat]

Most marriages are not gay, they are downright miserable.

 

[Ishmael]

Perhaps a new state wide referendum is in order? Idiot.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Looking at the internals the highest rates are in Los Angeles and among youth.

In question 4, marriage is clearly not the preferred option especially with Republicans and independents.

What you are seeing is the effect of the big-city liberal indoctrination centers and their ability to force students to a pre-determined social justice conclusion.

The poll is also two years old.

http://field.com/fieldpollonline/subscribers/Rls2349.pdf

 

[Princecharmingx]

59% support it right up until election time when half the state of Utah will slip in and tilt that scale.

 

[mercury14]

Looking at the internals the highest rates are in Los Angeles and among youth.

In question 4, marriage is clearly not the preferred option especially with Republicans and independents.

What you are seeing is the effect of the big-city liberal indoctrination centers and their ability to force students to a pre-determined social justice conclusion.

The poll is also two years old.

http://field.com/fieldpollonline/subscribers/Rls2349.pdf

The poll is not two years old. The poll was done between Feb 2nd-18th of 2012. I mean it says as much right there in the article. You DID read the article, right?

You're looking at the wrong year. Go back and look at each year and you'll see a steady shift toward supporting gay marriage and a precipitous drop in those opposed.

And fuck a duck you're a hypocrite. You have no problem with conservative ideologues or religion acting to indoctrinate kids to take a rabidly anti-gay social injustice perspective, founded on a strong base of discrimination and hate? But when kids hear a viewpoint of acceptance of other human beings THAT'S different. Suddenly it's wrong to "indoctrinate" kids by not teaching them to discriminate.

For someone who says you can't legislate morality you sure do love legislating morality.

Hypocrite.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I search long and hard for the source.

I did read the article.



I'm betting the internals pretty much say the same thing and show where the "trend" occurs, where liberals can get their wards in a captive situation and hold them hostage and, like the church, enforce a belief system on them.

I agree with the new definition: marriage is between loving people, so we need to stop hassling the fucking Mormons...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

lol - always with the HYPOCRITE!

... at least I don't openly lie about things like you did in the eyer thread.

A_J's corollary #5, “When lacking reason and sound argument, the New Age Liberal charges headlong into ‘debate’ with emotional cries of Hypocrisy. The New Age Liberal is, of course, immune to and incapable of Hypocrisy. That would require hard and fast standards.”

 

[mercury14]

Perhaps a new state wide referendum is in order? Idiot.

Ishmael

The last statewide referendum passed by a hair after mega-millions of outside money flooded the airwaves with lies.

"Your kid will learn from their teacher how to be gay unless you vote for Prop 8!"

"Your own marriage will be rendered meaningless unless Prop 8 passes!"

"Unless Prop 8 passes your kid will learn to have gay sex in sex ed class and you will lose your right to keep them out of sex ed!" (an outright lie)

"Unless you vote for Prop 8 then some people will get SPECIAL rights that you and I don't get. And that's just not fair because everyone should be treated equally!" (this ad didn't even mention that Prop 8 had anything to do with gays or gay marriage and was run in places like San Francisco in order to trick pro-equality people into voting the wrong way)


Even with a massive budget to push these lies Prop 8 still barely passed. Since then public opinion has shifted substantially pro-equality and the opposition has dwindled.

What do you think the people of Cali want today? What would happen if there was another referendum?

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

gay marriage should be allowed.

misery should not be limited to straight people.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

... at least I don't openly lie about things like you did in the eyer thread.

You don't openly lie about things?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *snort* *cough* HA!

Fuck, I needed a good laugh this morning!
At least you're good for something other than Spewing American "Thinker" and Limbaugh talking points. Not much more mind you, but once in awhile you spit out a fucking gem like that.

 

[mercury14]

I search long and hard for the source.

I did read the article.



I'm betting the internals pretty much say the same thing and show where the "trend" occurs, where liberals can get their wards in a captive situation and hold them hostage and, like the church, enforce a belief system on them.

I agree with the new definition: marriage is between loving people, so we need to stop hassling the fucking Mormons...

If you read the article you wouldn't have said that a twelve-day old poll is two years old.

What's this crap about liberal indoctrination of kids? SOCIETY is changing. Society is largely accepting of people being whoever they were born to be and being free to live how they choose. Society is shifting towards the belief that it's not the role of government to tell its citizens how we can love other people, nor is it the proper role of government to tell us who we can and cannot marry.

Stop blaming teachers.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

We think California's fiscal problems far outweigh the priority of gay marriage and we wonder how much of the changing demographic is due to the people fleeing liberalism for more "tolerant" climes...

We see on a daily basis how hateful you are and how quick you are to tell lies.

Like you did to eyer and Candicame...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

If you read the article you wouldn't have said that a twelve-day old poll is two years old.

What's this crap about liberal indoctrination of kids? SOCIETY is changing. Society is largely accepting of people being whoever they were born to be and being free to live how they choose. Society is shifting towards the belief that it's not the role of government to tell its citizens how we can love other people, nor is it the proper role of government to tell us who we can and cannot marry.

Stop blaming teachers.

The article has no links to the internals, so I searched, there was only one hit.

Furthermore, the group is San Francisco based making us wonder about the true nature of its "bipartisan' claim as made on their website.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You don't openly lie about things?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *snort* *cough* HA!

Fuck, I needed a good laugh this morning!
At least you're good for something other than Spewing American "Thinker" and Limbaugh talking points. Not much more mind you, but once in awhile you spit out a fucking gem like that.

What lies U_D?

We have merc confessing to lying just this week.

 

[Wobnoid]

So, is this a gay marriage question re: California ...? Or a question of Republican party standing within California...? Or more generally, a stab at the Republican party because Californians poll one way or another? Or... even more generally an underhanded jab at the righties here? Your way too overloaded California Roll of a question seems designed to trip up any conscientious responder.. Too many straw men in the OP to properly take a bite out of whichever real question this is.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

So, is this a gay marriage question re: California ...? Or a question of Republican party standing within California...? Or more generally, a stab at the Republican party because Californians poll one way or another? Or... even more generally an underhanded jab at the righties here? Your way too overloaded California Roll of a question seems designed to trip up any conscientious responder.. Too many straw men in the OP to properly take a bite out of whichever real question this is.

I cannot disagree with this.

 

[Beco]

59% of Californians support gay marriage while a paltry 34% oppose it.



Even opposition from Republicans is on the verge of falling beneath 50%. Given all this, does the Republican Party still have the mantle of "The Party of Personal Freedom"?

Here's the article from that liberal rag, the Christian Science Monitor:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Societ...iage-rises-among-California-voters-poll-finds

Mormons and black people, hate gays....didnt they squash it last time?

 

[RobDownSouth]

I cannot disagree with this.

You would if it didn't fit your current narrative. If it didn't fit your current narrative you'd be whining about Libruls and lies and drownin' out discussion with lengthy American Thinker non-sequiturs. That's how you roll.

 

[RobDownSouth]

... at least I don't openly lie about things like you did in the eyer thread.

A_J's corollary #5, “When lacking reason and sound argument, the New Age Liberal charges headlong into ‘debate’ with emotional cries of Hypocrisy. The New Age Liberal is, of course, immune to and incapable of Hypocrisy. That would require hard and fast standards.”

Oh? You going to admit to your "I cashed out mah 401K when a black man took office" claims are a lie now?

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

What lies U_D?

We have merc confessing to lying just this week.

People lie all of the time Cap'n. Every day, about almost anything and everything. Some more than others. Hell some even change their alias here on a regular basis to make it nigh impossible to track their history of lies.

KnowwhutImean?

More to the point.
You should probably get down off the high horse before you fall off and break your fool neck.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Oh boy, golly gee willikers, now we're back to Clinton and lying is okay, unless, of course, you accuse a "conservative" of the serious charge of lying...


lol

You fuckers crack me up...

A_J's corollary #6, “The New Age Liberal thinks, ‘When I do/say it, it is right because of my open-minded education and intelligence. When you do/say it, it serves to demonstrate how narrow-minded, poorly educated and stupid you are.’”

... this is why Lit is so freaking fascinating...

 

[mercury14]

What lies U_D?

We have merc confessing to lying just this week.

Listen moron, I was fucking with Eyer when I said I was an Australian philosophy student (and LOL at such a thing...). He took me off iggy so I decided to litter in his thread.

I mean... you must have to actually work your ass off to be this dense. Did you really think I was saying *bam* Now I'm suddenly an Australian philosopher? Do you really expect me to "confess" to lying about this?

What's wrong with you?

 

[mercury14]

The article has no links to the internals, so I searched, there was only one hit.

Furthermore, the group is San Francisco based making us wonder about the true nature of its "bipartisan' claim as made on their website.

Amazing. Now you're shifting to attacking their methods even though you have a copy of their full report right there in your browser? The fact that the pollster is based in San Francisco makes your paranoid little brain go into full-on fuckwit mode, doesn't it? They MUST be tinkerin' with the numbers! That's a gay city they're in!