Politics and the US Economy

An interesting article on the recovery.



What took so long?
By CHARLES GASPARINO
Posted: 10:13 PM, March 11, 2012

The US economy finally seems on course toward a sustained recovery — but why did it take so long?

Consider this analysis: Job creation is strong, while economic growth as measured by the gross domestic product will finally creep back to pre-2008 levels, something close to 3.5 percent.

That was not the takeaway from last week’s strong jobs report, but a prediction more than a year ago from Goldman Sachs analysts, possibly the best economics team on Wall Street.

The Goldman geniuses weren’t making it up, nor were they the only Wall Street types to predict incorrectly that 2011 would be a great year in which a rising stock market, higher corporate profits and increased consumer spending, would all translate into decent job growth and the final nail into the coffin of the Great Recession.

I bring this up not to show how some smart people got it wrong in 2011 (GDP growth was actually lower in 2011 than in 2010) and dampen last week’s good news about job creation. This recovery looks real; it was the third month in a row in which the economy produced more than 200,000 jobs. Overall unemployment held at 8.3 percent. That’s a great sign because the jobless rate doesn’t count people who’ve given up looking for work — but does count them when they start looking again. Apparently, people are finding jobs as fast as they’re jumping back into the work force.

No, the bigger issue is what took the economy so long to recover.

President Obama and his supporters blame the mess left by the 2008 financial collapse, as businesses shed jobs at rates not seen since the Great Depression — and they have a point; it takes time to dig out of a hole that deep.

But Obama’s critics have a point, too. The administration’s policies helped delay the rebound and make it more tepid than it might have been otherwise.

You can begin with Obama’s signature first-term economic “achievement,” the $800 billion stimulus plan that was supposed to create all those shovel-ready jobs and stop unemployment from rising above 8 percent.

We all know how that turned out, with unemployment hovering between 9 percent and 10 percent until recently and GDP floundering such that even some Obama supporters have attacked the stimulus’ futility. Much of the money went to states to plug their budget deficits and reduce government layoffs; another bunch went for cockamamie green schemes floated by such politically connected companies as Solyndra.

As for all the shovel-ready jobs, the president himself has joked about how they weren’t as shovel-ready as he expected.

But Obama’s biggest economic mistake wasn’t just the wasted stimulus but a war on US businesses that continues today.

Even as evidence mounted that his stimulus plan wasn’t working, the president basically ignored the nation’s economic woes and spent most of 2009 and 2010 pushing for the least business-friendly mandate to come out of Washington in years — his universal health-insurance plan.

Timing matters. Obama wasn’t pushing a new mandate during an economic boom, when employers might shrug off the costs and ignore the uncertainty, but when, as he puts it, the economy was in the ditch. Instead of giving the private sector reason for hope, he gave it more to fear — so businesses retrenched, and the “recovery summer” the administration predicted for 2010 never came.

Nor did it come last year. Again, some problems were clearly out of the president’s control. The tsunami in Japan and the euro crisis both were drags on the global economy. But so were Obama’s policies.

Businesses react rationally when it comes to hiring more workers, and here’s what they’ve had to consider since 2009:

* A president who doesn’t miss a chance to bash “millionaires and billionaires” and who always talks up the “justice” of raising their taxes.

* A financial-reform law that raises costs so much that banks can’t afford to take normal business risks and lend to entrepreneurs.

* An administration that’s so hellbent on serving its union allies that it sues Boeing for opening up a nonunion plant in South Carolina, where unemployment is almost 10 percent.

Now that Obama’s in full re-election mode, he’s dropped the Boeing suit. But he’s still stalled the Keystone Pipeline, which would have produced some real shovel-ready jobs — and also more oil as gasoline prices rise above $4 a gallon. And while he’s put some anti-energy regulations on hold, nobody thinks he’s that likely to delay them any longer if he wins in November.

Bottom line: Anyone looking to give the president credit for the recovery needs to explain why it took so long — and to tell us what, exactly, Obama did to make it better.


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An interesting article on the recovery.

You have so many positions at the same time. Not sure how you keep track of them all. Let's try, though I'm sure I'm missing a few of them.

1) There is no recovery and there cannot be one with Dems in power.

2) There are signs of a recovery but they're all red herrings. There is no recovery.

3) Okay so it LOOKS like there's a recovery. But only because we're looking at the wrong measures. Now it's time to change what indicators we're using.

4) Okay well there IS a recovery. But it would have come faster if we just let the auto industry and the financial sector collapse. (???)
 
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You have so many positions at the same time. Not sure how you keep track of them all. Let's try, though I'm sure I'm missing a few of them.

1) There is no recovery and there cannot be one with Dems in power.

2) There are signs of a recovery but they're all red herrings. There is no recovery.

3) Okay so it LOOKS like there's a recovery. But only because we're looking at the wrong measures. Now it's time to change what indicators we're using.

4) Okay well there IS a recovery. But it would have come faster if we just let the auto industry and the financial sector collapse. (???)

You have a compulsion about trying to twist the truth and misrepresent opponents positions. Does it hurt to be so twisted?
 
RUSH: Now, this debt deal. Folks, it is profound what the Washington Post reported. And the fact is, I don't think MSNBC has talked about it. The Politico has a little bit of a piece on it, but I remember Mark Halperin, TIME Magazine, got suspended from MSNBC for couple days because he said that Obama had acted like a male body part. On this debt deal. He said, yeah, "Obama acted like a d---." Male body part. Halperin's point was that Obama didn't want any grand bargain. It was all just posturing. Halperin has been vindicated now. Obama was acting that way.

And this is what I said. It was June 30th, after playing the clip from MSNBC, Halperin's remark. I said, "Now, after they stopped giggling on the Scarborough show, Halperin made a good point. Obama does not want a deal. He really doesn't want a deal. He wants the chaos. He wants all this to continue and that's what generates happiness for him." He cannot permit a deal with Congress when he's setting up a campaign this year to run against a do-nothing Congress. There was never any way he was gonna deal. And what happened was Boehner said, "Okay, I'll give you some tax increases," and Obama panicked. "Oh, my God! Okay," then he went out and lied to the country. That's all he knew to do.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Now, folks, I want to add another interesting ingredient to this debt deal. Now that I'm not so compressed for time, let's start at the beginning. Washington Post, huge front-page story. It's by Peter Wallsten and two other Drive-By reporters. This Wallsten guy apparently has a very solid reputation. That might be at risk now since I've praised him, but that's the breaks of the game. It can happen to Drive-By journalists. If I praise them they lose favor with all of their friends. But so be it. Wallsten and two others write this huge piece on the front page of the Washington Post.

Which, if you slog through it (and you don't have to because I did), you learn that Obama intentionally lied to the American people in a prime-time address announcing the failure of the negotiations to expand the debt limit last summer. What this story points out that is that the Obama lie was telling the American people that the Republicans were demanding cuts to the budget only as a means of expanding the debt limit. "We'll give you the debt limit increase, but you have to have some budget cuts." Obama lied to the American people and said that was the intractable Republican position. When, in fact, Boehner and Eric Cantor had offered tax increases in the $800 billion range.

Now, to take you back nine months ago, I thought it was Obama who needed the deal. I thought the Republicans held all the cards. I thought that Boehner and the boys could hold out and demand anything. It's Obama whose job is spending money. It's Obama who needs the debt limit increased so he can continue to buy votes, expand government, whatever his plan is. What Boehner and the boys decided to do was essentially call his bluff. He was setting up to run against a do-nothing Congress. They said, "Okay, here you go." Obama rejected it and then addressed the nation and lied. He told the American people that the Republicans were intractable, inflexible.

It was their way or the highway. They wouldn't give an inch. When in fact they had given Obama -- this is the key -- everything he wanted. And that's what he couldn't afford. The trick that they played on Obama was giving him what he wanted. They forced Obama to reject that, then go do a national address -- a prime-time address to the nation -- and lie about it. Mark Halperin goes on MSNBC and calls Obama a male body part and gets suspended for a couple days for this, but ends up being vindicated. This story also, if you slog through it, illustrates that Obama is incompetent as a negotiator. What this story says is that he's profoundly arrogant and afraid at the same time.

And also the story says that he doesn't know nearly what he thinks he knows. He's... I'll use the word "ignorant." Arrogant and ignorant. Arrogant condescension is the way Obama's portrayed in this story in dealing with the Republicans. Also it points out that Reid and Pelosi were nonfactors. They took the heat but they had to follow Obama's lead. So not only is he incompetent, he's dishonest. Once he got what he asked for he moved the goalposts and did it in a prime-time address to the nation. But the story didn't end there. From the New York Times, this is a story in July, July 23rd.

"Debt Ceiling Costs Collapse as Boehner Walks Out." Then in August is when the country debt ceiling had its credit rating downgraded, August of 2011. We lost our AAA credit rating because the debt ceiling fell through, and we now know (thanks to the Washington Post) that it fell through because Obama refused to accept it. It had everything in it he wanted and that was the problem. His bluff was called. I think toward the end of the negotiations, Boehner and the Republicans just decided, "Okay, let's see what happens," because it was proving impossible to negotiate with him. Every day that they negotiated, Boehner and Cantor would hear things that had not been agreed to.

They would listen to Obama recount things that had not been discussed, basically making it up every day as a negotiating tactic to keep them off balance. Nobody would know this to this day. We'd only have speculation. Well, Boehner and the guys know it but had they made a big deal out of it, they would have just been accused of being crybabies and whiners. So, I don't know the purpose of the story. I don't know why the Washington Post ran this thing yesterday, and I don't know why they spent so much time on it.

I don't know why the Washington Post basically lets anybody who reads this story know that Obama was the single problem here; that he's incompetent, arrogant and he lied to the nation in a prime-time address. I don't know why they're running this story. But, folks, I'm just gonna tell you here that there's abject panic in the White House. And again, things can turn on a dime in the business of politics. Republicans could screw up tomorrow (that's quite easy) and Obama would be back on a wave that nobody could stop him.

But as of right now, the polling data continues to just be devastating, including this piece at TheHill.com today which I shared with you in the previous half hour of the program.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2012/03/15/gIQAHyyfJS_story.html?tid=pm_politics_pop
 
That last year of Bush's administration included a large run-up in deficit spending strongly pushed by Reid and Pelosi who'd taken over the House and Senate the previous year...that debt should be rightly ascribed to the free-spending Democrats also.


National Debt has increased more under Obama than under Bush

By Mark Knoller
March 19, 2012

(Credit: CBS) (CBS News) The National Debt has now increased more during President Obama's three years and two months in office than it did during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency.

The Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office.

The latest posting from the Bureau of Public Debt at the Treasury Department shows the National Debt now stands at $15.566 trillion. It was $10.626 trillion on President Bush's last day in office, which coincided with President Obama's first day.

The National Debt also now exceeds 100% of the nation's Gross Domestic Product, the total value of goods and services.

Mr. Obama has been quick to blame his predecessor for the soaring Debt, saying Mr. Bush paid for two wars and a Medicare prescription drug program with borrowed funds.

The federal budget sent to Congress last month by Mr. Obama, projects the National Debt will continue to rise as far as the eye can see. The budget shows the Debt hitting $16.3 trillion in 2012, $17.5 trillion in 2013 and $25.9 trillion in 2022.

Federal budget records show the National Debt once topped 121% of GDP at the end of World War II. The Debt that year, 1946, was, by today's standards, a mere $270 billion dollars.

Mr. Obama doesn't mention the National Debt much, though he does want to be seen trying to reduce the annual budget deficit, though it's topped a trillion dollars for four years now.

As part of his "Win the Future" program, Mr. Obama called for "taking responsibility for our deficits, by cutting wasteful, excessive spending wherever we find it."

His latest budget projects a $1.3 trillion deficit this year declining to $901 billion in 2012, and then annual deficits in the range of $500 billion to $700 billion in the 10 years to come.

If Mr. Obama wins re-election, and his budget projections prove accurate, the National Debt will top $20 trillion in 2016, the final year of his second term. That would mean the Debt increased by 87 percent, or $9.34 trillion, during his two terms.
 
You have a compulsion about trying to twist the truth and misrepresent opponents positions. Does it hurt to be so twisted?

Yeah I called you on having several positions at the same time. What's your position today?
 
Yeah I called you on having several positions at the same time. What's your position today?

If I had as much leisure time as you and didn't have to work I'd be happy to detail out an economic plan and philosphy for you that's consistent and clear tied to a clear criticism of the mess that the Democrats have created. We still have 8.3% unemployment and massive and growing debt ($15.5T and counting) the last time I checked. Wasn't it just announced that Obama's debt in 3 years is greater than the 8 years of debt created under Bush's watch that Obama decried and ran against?

But, the Democrats are in charge now. When are we going to get a plan from them? How about a budget or even a national discussion about spending priorities?
 
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If I had as much leisure time as you and didn't have to work I'd be happy to detail out an economic plan and philosphy for you that's consistent and clear tied to a clear criticism of the mess that the Democrats have created. We still have 8.3% unemployment and massive and growing debt ($15.5T and counting) the last time I checked. Wasn't it just announced that Obama's debt in 3 years is greater than the 8 years of debt created under Bush's watch that Obama decried and ran against?

But, the Democrats are in charge now. When are we going to get a plan from them? How about a budget or even a national discussion about spending priorities?


So you're going to run from the question and pretend like you answered it?
 
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A recently published article The New Republic outlines the considerable shift of high ranking Wall Street Executives – a group that has historically favored Democrats over Republicans, now working to prevent four more years of economic disaster that is the Obama administration.



http://www.tnr.com/article/politics...=61e8207d88-TNR_Daily_031912&utm_medium=email




The Big Split



Why the hedge fund world loved Obama in 2008—and viscerally despises him today.
 
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A recently published article The New Republic outlines the considerable shift of high ranking Wall Street Executives – a group that has historically favored Democrats over Republicans, now working to prevent four more years of economic disaster that is the Obama administration.



http://www.tnr.com/article/politics...=61e8207d88-TNR_Daily_031912&utm_medium=email




The Big Split




Why the hedge fund world loved Obama in 2008—and viscerally despises him today.


The article doesn't say that high ranking Wall Street Execs dislike Obama. It just says hedge fund managers do. Those are the guys who bet against the economy.

Can you speculate as to why they're not happy with Obama right now?
 
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So you're going to run from the question and pretend like you answered it?

I think I've layed out enough of a concept on these pages and it's clear to most even if you can't see it or don't want to see it. I've had a 12 hour day today so far and still have a few more hours of work to go so I'm afraid nursing your petulance will have to wait another day.
 
I think I've layed out enough of a concept on these pages and it's clear to most even if you can't see it or don't want to see it. I've had a 12 hour day today so far and still have a few more hours of work to go so I'm afraid nursing your petulance will have to wait another day.

No you haven't. You've linked other people's opinions and ran from my question like three times.
 
No you haven't. You've linked other people's opinions and ran from my question like three times.

Poor boy doesn't understand, concepts like spending within your means and not incurring trillion dollar deficits are beyond your ability to comprehend.
 
Sounds like President Obama is grasping at straws to find something good that he's done during his presidency.

The Road We've Traveled' With Obama
Three dismal years are spun into 17 minutes of fact-challenged campaign film..
By KARL ROVE
Wall Street Journal

This month, Barack Obama's re-election campaign released a 17-minute film, "The Road We've Traveled," that previews the Democratic general election narrative. Directed by Academy Award winner Davis Guggenheim and narrated by actor Tom Hanks, the film explores Mr. Obama's most important decisions.

Viewers are told Mr. Obama deserves re-election for restoring America to prosperity after a recession "as deep as anything . . . since the Great Depression." He accomplished this in part, so the film says, by bailing out the auto companies—deciding not to just "give the car companies" or "the UAW the money" but to force them to "work together" and "modernize the automobile industry." The president, we're told, also confronted "one of the most worrisome problems facing America . . . the cost of health care."

Abroad, Mr. Obama ended the Iraq war and, in the "ultimate test of leadership," Osama bin Laden was killed on his watch. The film heralds Mr. Obama as a leader committed to "tough decisions" and as someone who "would not dwell in blame" in the Oval Office.

Where to begin? Perhaps with the last statement: Mr. Obama has spent three years wallowing in blame. His culprits have ranged from his predecessor, to tsunamis and earthquakes, to ATMs, to Fox News, to yours truly. If you Google "Obama, Blame, Bush" and "Obama, Inherited," you'll get tens of millions of hits.

As for inheriting the worst economy since the Great Depression: Perhaps Mr. Obama has forgotten the Carter presidency, which featured double-digit inflation, double-digit interest rates, and high unemployment.

The film is riddled with other inaccuracies and misleading claims. For example, the United Auto Workers may not have gotten "money" in the bailout, but as an unsecured creditor, the union received a 17.5% ownership interest in General Motors and 55% of Chrysler, while the companies' bondholders got hosed.

The film asserts that the auto companies "repaid their loans." But they still owe taxpayers $26.5 billion, and the Treasury Department's latest report to Congress noted that nearly $24 billion of the bailout money is gone forever.

Assistant editorial page editor James Freeman on Jeb Bush's endorsement of Mitt Romney. Plus, how President Obama reckons that he's only responsible for 12% of the deficit and George W. Bush is to blame for 59%.

The film includes Mr. Obama's 2008 claim that the death of his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, from cancer "could have been prevented" if only she "had good, consistent insurance." But earlier this year, a biography of Dunham by Janny Scott, "A Singular Woman," revealed that she had health insurance that covered most all her medical bills, leaving only a few hundred dollars a month in deductibles and uncovered costs. For misleading viewers, the Washington Post fact checker awarded this segment of the film "Three Pinocchios."

The film also offers up numerous straw men. For example, opponents of Mr. Obama's auto industry bailout, we're told, just wanted to "let it go," as if an orderly bankruptcy of GM and Chrysler in the courts rather than by presidential fiat was never an option. It was.

Almost as important as what the film says is what it doesn't. There's not a word about the failure of the president's stimulus to produce the jobs he pledged—according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, fewer Americans are working today (132.7 million) than when Mr. Obama was sworn in (133.6 million).

There's nothing about his promise to cut the deficit in half by the end of his term—according to Treasury's Bureau of Public Debt, the administration has piled up more debt in three years and two months ($4.93 trillion) than his predecessor did in eight years ($4.8 trillion).

About Karl Rove
Karl Rove served as Senior Advisor to President George W. Bush from 2000–2007 and Deputy Chief of Staff from 2004–2007. At the White House he oversaw the Offices of Strategic Initiatives, Political Affairs, Public Liaison, and Intergovernmental Affairs and was Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy, coordinating the White House policy-making process.

Before Karl became known as "The Architect" of President Bush's 2000 and 2004 campaigns, he was president of Karl Rove + Company, an Austin-based public affairs firm that worked for Republican candidates, nonpartisan causes, and nonprofit groups. His clients included over 75 Republican U.S. Senate, Congressional and gubernatorial candidates in 24 states, as well as the Moderate Party of Sweden.

Karl writes a weekly op-ed for the Wall Street Journal, is a Fox News Contributor and is the author of the book "Courage and Consequence" (Threshold Editions).

Email the author atKarl@Rove.comor visit him on the web atRove.com. Or, you can send a Tweet to @karlrove.

Click here to order his book, Courage and Consequence.
.Nothing is said about the centerpieces of last year's State of the Union—green energy jobs (Solyndra anyone?) and high-speed rail (fizzled). Nada on the president's promises about how ObamaCare would lower premiums and lower the deficit while allowing people to keep their existing coverage (all untrue).

There's nothing about the crumbling situation in Afghanistan, strained relations with allies like Israel, Mr. Obama's unpopularity in the Islamic World, the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, multiple missteps with Iran (from failing to protest the stolen Iranian elections in 2009 to the mullahs' unchecked pursuit of nuclear weapons), and Mr. Obama's flip flops on closing the Guantanamo Bay detention facility and providing civilian trials for terrorists.

As for the killing of Osama bin Laden, Mr. Obama did what virtually any commander in chief would have done in the same situation. Even President Bill Clinton says in the film "that's the call I would have made." For this to be portrayed as the epic achievement of the first term tells you how bare the White House cupboards are.

Mr. Rove, the former senior adviser and deputy chief of staff to President George W. Bush, is the author of "Courage and Consequence" (Threshold Editions, 2010).
 
The article doesn't say that high ranking Wall Street Execs dislike Obama. It just says hedge fund managers do. Those are the guys who bet against the economy.

Can you speculate as to why they're not happy with Obama right now?



Maybe you should read the whole article... it covers both.


For one time, I thought linking the article (instead of C & P) would result in the thread audience to read and discuss.... let this be a prime example of why it's better to C & P if any portion of an article might get read.
 
It's becoming increasingly evident that Obama's house of cards has all but collapsed.
 
It's becoming increasingly evident that Obama's house of cards has all but collapsed.

Keep dreaming, Miles Ben Zonah.

And try and come up with some epithets for President Obama when he wins re-election in November.

YCSDIAF. :)
 
an extract from an Article by Louis Woodhill of Forbes Magazine:


The complete and utter failure of Obama’s $800 billion “stimulus” program was a severe blow to Keynesians, one from which they are still struggling to recover. The public, which experienced the results of stimulus (massive deficits and the slowest economic recovery in history), and cares nothing for academic arguments, has turned decisively against both stimulus and the politicians who advocate it. What’s a Liberal to do?

In this case, dust off some old arguments and throw in a new word, “hysteresis”.

Caught as they are in the grip of the Keynesian Superstition (that government spending creates demand), Liberals keep casting about for an explanation of why increased government spending never seems to actually increase demand (nominal GDP, or NGDP).

The Keynesians’ first attempt at this (with collusion from the CBO) was to assert that Obama’s stimulus did, in fact, increase NGDP over what it would have been in the absence of the stimulus. To do this, they employed an analytical method that assumes that stimulus works as advertised, and essentially back-calculates what would have happened without it.

The public didn’t buy this, and the obvious circularity of the argument became embarrassing over time, so the Keynesians went to “Plan B”. This was to argue, as DeLong and Summers do in their paper, that, under most circumstances, the Fed adjusts monetary policy to neutralize the impact of fiscal stimulus, so this is why stimulus is never observed to work.

This, in turn, allowed DeLong and Summers to further argue that “this time it’s different”, and that, because: 1) there is so much “slack” in the economy; and, 2) the Fed is trapped against “the zero bound” (interest rates at zero) and can’t generate any additional demand stimulus themselves, the Fed would not move to offset additional fiscal stimulus applied today.

DeLong and Summers begin laying out their case with the words, “Imagine a demand-constrained economy where the fiscal multiplier is 1.5…”

No. Stop right there. The “fiscal multiplier” can never be more than 1.0, and is usually less than that. It isn’t the Fed that neutralizes fiscal stimulus, it’s fiscal stimulus that neutralizes fiscal stimulus.

Keynesians implicitly assume that the additional government spending is done with money that is materialized out of thin air. It is not. Stimulus spending is financed by selling bonds. The Treasury sells bonds and takes in money. Then, with some lag, it writes checks and sends the same money back out again. The best that this process can ever accomplish is to leave NGDP unchanged.

But wait, it gets worse. Although fiscal stimulus can never affect demand, it can impact supply, and in a negative way. This is because government bonds are sold to people who have capital to invest. If any of the additional government borrowing reduces private business investment, then the productive capacity of the country will be lower than it would otherwise have been. If you are looking for economic “hysteresis”, here it is.

A reasonable (non-circular) analysis of the data from the “stimulus” period suggests that, because of the impact upon investment, by June 2010, stimulus “prevented or destroyed” 3.2 million jobs instead of “creating or saving” 2.8 million jobs. Stimulus was a disaster.

Now, what about demand (NGDP)? In a barter economy, production creates both supply and demand, because goods themselves are used to pay for other goods. In a money economy, production creates supply, and money creates demand. The Fed’s job is to supply the amount of money required to support all of the transactions that people want to do, at a constant general price level. If the Fed does this, the economy will have the right level of demand, and there will be no need for fiscal stimulus (even if it worked, which it does not).

It is clear from the numbers that the economic crash of late 2008 was caused by a sudden, violent fall in demand. NGDP fell for four quarters straight between 3Q2008 and 2Q2009, for a total reduction of about 4%. Real GDP fell by about 5% during this period. Nothing like this had happened since the Great Depression.
 
an extract from an Article by Louis Woodhill of Forbes Magazine:

Any reason we should put much faith in the opinion of a partisan ideologue with no education or background in anything he's talking about?
 
He makes compelling points. You don't.



He's just another Republican reciting a tired right wing narrative, making little attempt to back his story. You find that compelling?

Your author ignores the fact that private sector macroanalysis ended up with the same conclusion as the CBO. Why didn't he address any of that?
 
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