Political Query from a Canuck

sincerely_helene

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I just finished watching the presidential debate, (not really into politics, but Bush and Kerry have some amusing cartoon-like traits that make them cute to observe,) and the oddest thing happened!

Right when they were asked if Americans were being killed in Iraq, the coverage stopped and they resumed to their regular programming. Did this happen in the U.S. too, or was it just here?
 
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Love the AV (sorry for the hi-jack). Just finished the book, a very poignant tale, beautifully scripted.
 
sincerely_helene said:
I just finished watching the presidential debate, (not really into politics, but Bush and Kerry have some amusing cartoon-like traits that make them cute to observe,) and the oddest thing happened!

Right when they were asked if Americans were being killed in Iraq, the coverage stopped and they resumed to their regular programming. Did this happen in the U.S. too, or was it just here?

Nope. It's still going on all networks here.
 
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minsue said:
Nope. It's still going on all networks here.

Oops! It's back on now. Maybe it was just a technical gliche... yeaaahhh... a technical gliche (it was out for near a half hour here.)

Thanks, neonlyte. Haven't read the book, but I did see the movie recently. I got a good chuckle earlier when someone PMed and asked if that was me in the av.

This thread open for hi-jack now since my 'delete' option isn't functional.
 
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I thought the cinematography of the movie was excellent, but couldn't really get into the story so well. I do think it was one of Johannson's better roles, however.

:)
 
McKenna said:
I thought the cinematography of the movie was excellent, but couldn't really get into the story so well. I do think it was one of Johannson's better roles, however.

:)

Rhino and I just had this very discussion only a few weeks back. I could see how one might find it boring beyond words, but to my tastes it was more stimulating than the average porn flick.

Course, Firth's portrayal didn't hurt none niether.
 
sincerely_helene said:
Rhino and I just had this very discussion only a few weeks back. I could see how one might find it boring beyond words, but to my tastes it was more stimulating than the average porn flick.

The tension portrayed between artist and model was equisite. I just don't understand why he or his wife sent her the pearls in the end.
 
McKenna said:
The tension portrayed between artist and model was equisite. I just don't understand why he or his wife sent her the pearls in the end.

Well, a couple possible theories come to mind. She had very little money, and she was thrown out of both job and home on the same day. I think it was a way of saying... look, the painting brought us out of financial ruin, so this is the least we could do to help you out. Sort of like a payment.

... Or, if you look at what the pearls represent, they might have just even been sent as a memory sake.

Keep in mind that the movie was fiction based, exploring the possiblities behind the story of the painting, so it also might have just been done for effect. It would have seemed too odd to just end it all with her being kicked out on her rear without any closure.
 
sincerely_helene said:
Well, a couple possible theories come to mind. She had very little money, and she was thrown out of both job and home on the same day. I think it was a way of saying... look, the painting brought us out of financial ruin, so this is the least we could do to help you out. Sort of like a payment.

... Or, if you look at what the pearls represent, they might have just even been sent as a memory sake.

Keep in mind that the movie was fiction based, exploring the possiblities behind the story of the painting, so it also might have just been done for effect. It would have seemed too odd to just end it all with her being kicked out on her rear without any closure.

Right, but I'm not sure the pearls represent closure. If the wife sent them, did she send them because they were somehow "tainted" and she could no longer wear them? Wouldn't that be more of a slap in the face?

If the husband sent them, yes, I can see them representing something for memory's sake.

I may have to re-watch this movie. Talking about it has me wondering about it again.
 
McKenna said:
Right, but I'm not sure the pearls represent closure. If the wife sent them, did she send them because they were somehow "tainted" and she could no longer wear them? Wouldn't that be more of a slap in the face?

If the husband sent them, yes, I can see them representing something for memory's sake.

Hey! I had never considered that possiblity. That also makes alot of sense. I assumed that if his wife had any part of it, it was implying that she now understood, and all was forgiven. Once again, gratitude for bringing them out of debt.

P.S. By representation, I was indeed speaking of him. It was almost as though he deflowered her, and he didn't want her to forget it.

My use of the term "closure" in this case was more literal than symbolic. I merely meant that it gave the movie a place to end rather than leaving it hanging in mid-air.
 
sincerely_helene said:
My use of the term "closure" in this case was more literal than symbolic. I merely meant that it gave the movie a place to end rather than leaving it hanging in mid-air.

Ahhhh, yes. Good point.
 
I think I will follow your lead and rent it again tonight, (if only to drool.):D

P.S. Great av, Pumpkin.
 
McKenna said:
Right, but I'm not sure the pearls represent closure. If the wife sent them, did she send them because they were somehow "tainted" and she could no longer wear them? Wouldn't that be more of a slap in the face?

If the husband sent them, yes, I can see them representing something for memory's sake.

I may have to re-watch this movie. Talking about it has me wondering about it again.

McKenna
In the book the 'gift' of the earings is explicit. Vermeer leaves written instruction with his friend Van Leeuwenhoek that the earings are to be given to Griet. Since the family is broke and all its possessions to be sold Catharina reluctantly goes along with his 'last' wishes.

Griet immediately sells the earings to cover the debt owed by the Vermeers to the butchers, a bill Catharina refused to pay when Griet fled to the butchers family.

What I particularly enjoyed about the book was the serenity in which the story was told and the writers ability to maintain a high level of emotional tension, concealed, as much had to be, within the household.
 
neonlyte said:
McKenna
In the book the 'gift' of the earings is explicit. Vermeer leaves written instruction with his friend Van Leeuwenhoek that the earings are to be given to Griet. Since the family is broke and all its possessions to be sold Catharina reluctantly goes along with his 'last' wishes.

Griet immediately sells the earings to cover the debt owed by the Vermeers to the butchers, a bill Catharina refused to pay when Griet fled to the butchers family.

Hey! Whaddya know? I was close!
 
Kerry... by 73 percent??

I'm not sure whether to feel relieved or horrified.

I think I'm leaning more towards relieved.

Quote by Kerry (which I aptly took out of context) "Which is worse?"

... But then, I don't follow politics.
 
vella_ms said:
i loved the pearl earring. watched it yesterday with closed caption cuz my sister is... well... a bit on the DEAF side..

and on the flip side of things.. here is a pic to amuse yourself with:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-9/822586/bushpick.jpg

That is unfair, the man shows great dexterity.
Note how he changes finger to meet the challenge of the situation. This marks a man with a flexible mind, who doesn't mind admitting his first approach failed.
Note how he shuts his eyes when he finds trouble, this marks sensitivity, an indication that dealing with unpleasant issues affects his sensibility.
Note the hand held across his mouth, he is aware that some poeple find the smell of alchohol offensive.
Note he doesn't use his index finger, this is the one he normally keeps firmly up his a...
 
neonlyte said:
That is unfair, the man shows great dexterity.
Note how he changes finger to meet the challenge of the situation. This marks a man with a flexible mind, who doesn't mind admitting his first approach failed.
Note how he shuts his eyes when he finds trouble, this marks sensitivity, an indication that dealing with unpleasant issues affects his sensibility.
Note the hand held across his mouth, he is aware that some poeple find the smell of alchohol offensive.
Note he doesn't use his index finger, this is the one he normally keeps firmly up his a...

Our sincerest apologies, Mr. Bush. :kiss: <<insert arse here
 
neonlyte said:
McKenna
In the book the 'gift' of the earings is explicit. Vermeer leaves written instruction with his friend Van Leeuwenhoek that the earings are to be given to Griet. Since the family is broke and all its possessions to be sold Catharina reluctantly goes along with his 'last' wishes.

Griet immediately sells the earings to cover the debt owed by the Vermeers to the butchers, a bill Catharina refused to pay when Griet fled to the butchers family.

What I particularly enjoyed about the book was the serenity in which the story was told and the writers ability to maintain a high level of emotional tension, concealed, as much had to be, within the household.

Cool, that explains it.
 
neonlyte said:
That is unfair, the man shows great dexterity.
Note how he changes finger to meet the challenge of the situation. This marks a man with a flexible mind, who doesn't mind admitting his first approach failed.
Note how he shuts his eyes when he finds trouble, this marks sensitivity, an indication that dealing with unpleasant issues affects his sensibility.
Note the hand held across his mouth, he is aware that some poeple find the smell of alchohol offensive.
Note he doesn't use his index finger, this is the one he normally keeps firmly up his a...

perfect play by play. i have to admit i hadnt thought of it in that fashion..
bravo!
no appologies from me to the prez. blow your nose in the shower where only the secret service can see please.
 
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