Police 'shot at Tibet protesters'

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Chinese police opened fire and wounded four protesters "in self-defence" last Sunday in a Tibetan area of Sichuan province, the Xinhua news agency says.

It is the first time China has admitted injuring anyone since anti-Chinese protests in Tibet began last week.

Xinhua said police opened fire in Aba county - the same place that Tibetan activists said eight people were killed during protests near Kirti monastery.

Activists released graphic photos of dead bodies showing bullet wounds.

China has said that only 13 people have been killed during the protests, and that all were innocent and killed by "rioters" in Lhasa.

The Tibetan government in exile has said at least 99 people have died so far, including 80 in Lhasa - and have accused the security forces of firing on crowds.

Earlier on Thursday, China admitted for the first time that the protests had spread outside the Tibetan Autonomous Region to nearby provinces in south-western China where large numbers of ethnic Tibetans live.

'Monks protest'

Citing police sources, Xinhua said police had opened fire "in self-defence" during Sunday's unrest in Aba, close to Sichuan's border with Qinghai province.

An earlier Xinhua report had said the police had shot dead four rioters, but it was quickly corrected.


The state-owned news agency had previously said only that "mobsters" had caused "great damage" to shops and government offices in the area.

Xinhua did not provide further details of the incident, but Tibetan activists have said at least eight people were killed at a demonstration against Chinese rule near the Kirti monastery in Aba on Sunday.

The Tibetan Centre for Human Rights and Democracy circulated photos earlier this week of dead bodies with apparent gunshot wounds, which it said were the result of police firing indiscriminately at those attending the protest.

The group said many of the victims were monks who had joined thousands of others to demand independence for Tibet and the return of the Dalai Lama. Chinese police are deployed around the monastery to deter further protests, it said.

Crackdown

The BBC's China editor, Shirong Chen, says the situation in parts of western China is now extremely tense, with security being ratcheted up and many arrests.

Hundreds of troops have been seen pouring into Tibetan areas. On Wednesday alone, BBC reporters saw more than 400 troop carriers and other vehicles on the main road - the largest mobilisation witnessed since the unrest began.

The authorities have also placed strict limits on Western journalists trying to report on the unrest. A German journalist who was forced out of Lhasa on Thursday said security forces had told him he was the last foreign journalist in the city.

And officials said 24 people had been arrested after demonstrations in the Tibetan city of Lhasa, and 170 protesters had surrendered to authorities. The authorities had threatened "harsh punishments" for those who failed to meet a Monday deadline.

Earlier, Tibet's exiled spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, reiterated his willingness to meet Chinese President Hu Jintao if he received "concrete indications" of what the Chinese government can offer.

But senior Chinese officials have repeatedly accused him of orchestrating the protests from his base in the Indian town of Dharamsala, and the foreign ministry once again labelled him a "splittist" on Thursday.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7307382.stm
 
Well I thought this would generate some discussion.
 
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Sorry, I would have responded sooner but I'm knee deep in Lit by-laws, if you know what I mean.
 
I have to say that for people being hyped up about the whole situation this news should have gotten some respone. Such fleeting sentiments.
 
I have to say that for people being hyped up about the whole situation this news should have gotten some respone. Such fleeting sentiments.

I'd respond, but I have to run out to walmart and buy some chinese-made goods.. be back in a bit.
 
those Tibetans are like Motorhead fans, totally out of control.
 
What kind of response is expected?

China is still a totalitarian, Communist regime that gets a pass on human rights and continuing strong-handed/evil tactics because hundreds of millions of Chinese are willing to (or have few other options that to) work for a pittance in manufacturing cheap products that are distributed all over the world.

So what China's military and police do is not exactly shocking. And the world's passive response is not surprising either.
 
What kind of response is expected?

China is still a totalitarian, Communist regime that gets a pass on human rights and continuing strong-handed/evil tactics because hundreds of millions of Chinese are willing to (or have few other options that to) work for a pittance in manufacturing cheap products that are distributed all over the world.

So what China's military and police do is not exactly shocking. And the world's passive response is not surprising either.
Interesting. People were not passive the other day here.
 
What the fuck is wrong with Sting, Andy and Stewart? I know getting back together was a big step for them, but to take out there frustrations this way.

It's just not right.
 
Strange that we were prepared to stand against the apartheid regime but we accept Chinese repression.

Additionally the spread of action against the state poses significant worries. The population of China suffers from an imbalance between the sexes and large economic differences between town and country. World food shortages could lead to mass starvation which could have a destabilising effect on Chinese society. This could spill over into India and the domino effect would probably carry it into Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iran.

We live in interesting times.
 
What I'm not understanding is how Tibetan monks of all people would be attacking these soliders. It makes no sense. They don't even explain how they felt threatened enough to fire.
 
What I'm not understanding is how Tibetan monks of all people would be attacking these soliders. It makes no sense. They don't even explain how they felt threatened enough to fire.

The BBC got a piece of film that shows a sit down demo. The young monks get agitated for some reason and the older monks try to calm them. Then things turn to sherbert. I've only seen it briefly and haven't heard the analysis of the clip. The Chinese Govt have been settling ethnic Chinese in Tibet to create division. The monks are the nearest thing Tibetans have to representatives. They have a history of being the focus of resistance.
 
The BBC got a piece of film that shows a sit down demo. The young monks get agitated for some reason and the older monks try to calm them. Then things turn to sherbert. I've only seen it briefly and haven't heard the analysis of the clip. The Chinese Govt have been settling ethnic Chinese in Tibet to create division. The monks are the nearest thing Tibetans have to representatives. They have a history of being the focus of resistance.

Sounds to me like something fishy went on.
 
So much for protesting being a form of free speech. I don't think the Chinese government plays that shit. Just be thankful that you don't live in China.
 
Is anyone else getting fed up with the meally-mouthed statements by various governments urging the Chinese government to use "restraint". What does that mean? Don't hit the protesters too hard? Only lock them up for a few days?

It seems that governments (and businesses) are too scared to come out and "condemn" China for their actions. Obviously they want to pussy-foot around due to the money involved in China these days and trade agreements! In the meantime people of the country of Tibet pay the price because other countries are too scared to stand up to a bully. Since that is what China is.
 
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