Poland shuts down refugee intake.

[warrior queen]

The first of the EU countries to do so.
Call me radical or hard-line, but I believe all countries should immediately stop taking refugees from any area/country that has an IS presence.
Make the Islamists responsible for cleaning up their own mess.

Once again, I keep hearing 'Not all Muslims are bad! There are a whole bunch of moderate, peace-loving Muslims out there!'
Well? Where are they?
Why are the Muslim communities in Paris and every other place that has had terrorist attacks not denouncing every one of the people they know are sympathetic to IS?

Don't try and convince me that they don't know who they are
Not only do the clerics and imams know.... they are complicit so long as they do nothing.

And I say this as someone who has Muslims in my immediate family.

 

[smoothg103rd]

You also sees black people as niggers. So I'm not surprised that you feel this way. They're good Muslims, and I know many. French and the US bombed and shot up many Muslims countries, but everyone wants to have a hissy fit when they shoot and bomb back.

 

[warrior queen]

You also sees black people as niggers. So I'm not supposed that you feel this way. They're good Muslims, and I know many. French and the US bombed and shot up many Muslims countries, but everyone wants to have a hissy fit when they shoot and bomb back.

You are an idiot.

 

[smoothg103rd]

You are an idiot.

As many people says. But no one counter what I say. Why is that? Because they can't?

 

[lovecraft68]

This recalls world war two, when the rebels from villages would attack the Nazi's. The villagers would claim innocence even though they knew who the killers were.

Now of course the Nazi's had zero tolerance and would start killing innocents until the rebels were named.

This is the only strategy that will work with Isis. Its time to deport and wage war against all Muslims. Then if they are truly 'peace loving' and innocent they will begin to hunt Isis themselves or hand them over.

Its time for the entire world to start fighting a real war against Muslims.

 

[warrior queen]

This recalls world war two, when the rebels from villages would attack the Nazi's. The villagers would claim innocence even though they knew who the killers were.

Now of course the Nazi's had zero tolerance and would start killing innocents until the rebels were named.

This is the only strategy that will work with Isis. Its time to deport and wage war against all Muslims. Then if they are truly 'peace loving' and innocent they will begin to hunt Isis themselves or hand them over.

Its time for the entire world to start fighting a real war against Muslims.

I kinda agree.... without killing innocent people if possible.
Maybe push back all the refugees and then completely blockade that entire area of the world.
Contain the whole lot and make life hard enough that the people see no option other than to police themselves and go after radicals (IS etc).

 

[butters]

*shakes head... *

you do realise what the refugees are trying to escape?

ok, i'm outta this thread.

 

[warrior queen]

*shakes head... *

you do realise what the refugees are trying to escape?

ok, i'm outta this thread.

Yeah....and not one of the refugees who travelled with that Syrian asshole who was involved in the Paris attacks said a fucking word about the fact that an IS terrorist was with them!
At least ONE other person there in Turkey when he was processed, had to have known.
And said nothing. Did nothing.
Fuckers.

Edit: they were processed through Greece, not Turkey. My mistake.

 

[OjosMojo]

you do realise what the refugees are trying to escape?

And just like you progressives who choose to also "escape" it instead of stand and fight it, the blood of innocents is on their hands, too.

ok, i'm outta this thread.

Pop your head up out of your utopian sand again to drop another of your self-appraised nuggets of unicorn wisdom...

...and then stick it right back down in your hole again leaving, of course, your wannabe azz completely exposed again.

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[warrior queen]

And just like you progressives who choose to also "escape" it instead of stand and fight it, the blood of innocents is on their hands, too.

Agreed.
Instead of dealing with their own mess, they move to live in other countries..... and bring their religious hate with them.
We have several Islamic leaders calling for Australia to become a sharia country! They are vocal and outspoken, and already have sharia courts set up in several places.

Recently, a jounalist went out among several Muslim communities in Sydney and Melbourne, asking people of Muslim faith which was more important and should be followed - Australian law or sharia law? Of the several hundred asked......
EVERY SINGLE PERSON INTERVIEWED REPLIED 'SHARIA LAW'!

 

[RobDownSouth]

This recalls world war two, when the rebels from villages would attack the Nazi's. The villagers would claim innocence even though they knew who the killers were.

Now of course the Nazi's had zero tolerance and would start killing innocents until the rebels were named.

This is the only strategy that will work with Isis. Its time to deport and wage war against all Muslims. Then if they are truly 'peace loving' and innocent they will begin to hunt Isis themselves or hand them over.

Its time for the entire world to start fighting a real war against Muslims.

Yeah, let's lower ourselves to the level of the Nazis.

Sure, the "collective punishment" you're proposing is explicitly banned under the Geneva Conventions, but hai, it's only a god-damned piece of paper and we're pissed off...PISSED OFF, I tell you.

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[PoppingTom]

The first of the EU countries to do so.

Really?

Poland with its 200 Syrians close its borders for more refugees?

Impressive.




But for your consideration: Hungary did first.

 

[warrior queen]

You can find threads in here where overwhelming majorities will probably also come up with different answers to communities in different environments.

Do you know or have friendships with any Muslims?

My father, step-mother, half-brother and half-sister are Muslim.
We don't speak - mainly because they had a celebration dinner after 9/11.

So yes.

 

[warrior queen]

Really?

Poland with its 200 Syrians close its borders for more refugees?

Impressive.




But for your consideration: Hungary did first.

Sounds like more are considering it.
This terrorist attack will change the open-border policy of the EU.

 

[PoppingTom]

Recently, a jounalist went out among several Muslim communities in Sydney and Melbourne, asking people of Muslim faith which was more important and should be followed - Australian law or sharia law? Of the several hundred asked......
EVERY SINGLE PERSON INTERVIEWED REPLIED 'SHARIA LAW'!

Too bad, religious people take their religion seriously.

Off course, no, I mean NO !!!! Australian or American person in Germany would say their home rights are better than the German rights. NEVER.

 

[PoppingTom]

Sounds like more are considering it.

They did long before the attacks.

The whole refugee problem was caused by Hungary closing its borders.

 

[kbate]

Moderate and sane Muslims don't make the news, why would you expect to hear about them?

You didn't read about my trip to New York, because I didn't crash the car, the train didn't derail and I didn't rob any stores. You didn't read about Ahmed the Gem Merchant because he went to work, sold two rings and went home to his wife.

You did read about Jihadi John because he made videos of cutting off heads and got killed by a drone strike.

See how that works?


You don't hear about Moderate Democrats or Moderate Republicans except during an election when they all yell about how moderate they are in the press, and then explain how liberal or conservative they are at the fund raisers.

See how that works also?

There are no moderates in the history books.

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[warrior queen]

Too bad, religious people take their religion seriously.

And that's it in a nutshell.
No atheist has ever blown themselves up, killing indiscriminately, to make the point of their atheism.

 

[Super-Surprise]

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http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/bf2ead6dfbdd406153cc80c196504eed5bb324b4_m.png

 

[PoppingTom]

And that's it in a nutshell.
No atheist has ever blown themselves up, killing indiscriminately, to make the point of their atheism.

You never know. The bad thing on atheism is their lack of idealism. Without idealism, no martyrs.

And btw: sharia law got zero to do with terrorism. Don't think you're that crazy to render the horror of the Khmer Rouge with Obamacare, because socialism.

 

[Hard_Rom]

The old countries of the Soviet Bloc behind the Iron Curtain are a generation behind the more liberal west in development especially in human rights. The Soviet rule held them back in the past of the 1930s. It is acceptable to discriminate against Roma people in much of Europe especially the east.

Don't blame refugees even if a criminal element subverts part of their plight for nefarious reasons.

Was it acceptable to deny these refugees and say let Germany solve it's own problems. Does the presence of a Mafia in Italy mean no Italian immigrants wanted? Did the existence of the IRA stop the Irish from being allowed to leave Ireland?

http://blog.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/blog/posts/none-are-too-many-the-tragedy-of-the-ms-st-louis/

The MS St. Louis set sail from Hamburg, Germany, on May 13, 1939. The 937 Jewish refugees on board were hoping to find respite from the increasingly intolerant and dangerous climate in Europe; for many, this was their last chance to escape Nazi persecution. The ship was bound for Cuba, where many of the passengers hoped to obtain visas that would allow them to enter the United States.

Increased anti-Jewish sentiment, government infighting, and recent changes to immigration regulations in Cuba meant that upon arrival in Havana, the passengers were not allowed to disembark. After days of negotiation, the St. Louis was turned away. Captain Gustav Schroeder refused to turn back to Nazi Germany without finding asylum for his passengers, appealing to ports across South America and to the United States for safe haven. He was rejected from all ports, and from the United States there was only silence.

Thus, the MS St. Louis sailed north. For years, Canada had operated a “closed door” immigration policy that discriminated against Jewish people. The climate of anti-Semitism in Canada in the 1930s was powerful, it was visible, and it was entrenched even in high levels of government. The government’s stance on Jewish refugees is best reflected by the oft-repeated (and now almost mythical) words of a Canadian immigration official: “None is too many.”

 

[warrior queen]

After the twin towers, the world said never again.
And after every other IS/terrorist attack, the world says never again.

And still it happens.

Maybe it's time the world forced those countries that harbour these extremists responsible for stopping it?
Nothing else has worked.....