Plumbing's a Bitch, and Bathroom Repair is Even Worse

SlickTony

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It's not that we're not handy, it's just that every time we set out to do a repair project, it always ends up being more complicated than we expect it to be. Plumbing especially, and especially anything that has to do with the bathtub. I don't know what it is with houses nowadays--in the house I came up in, the bathtub had its own set of shutoff valves. They don't now. There's supposed to be a sound economic reason they don't, but it makes things inconvenient. If you need to replace a sink faucet, you only have to turn off its water supply; anything to do with the tub and shower, and you have to turn off the water supply to the whole house.

And we'd remembered the time we had to replace the core of the sink faucet and it was stuck in there so bad we ended up having to get a whole 'nother faucet and we spent the whole day working on it and were late to a party. So when the shower started leaking in our bathroom we procrastinated doing anything about it. But when the celing in the downstairs bathroom fell into the bathtub, we then, of couse, had to do something.

We couldn't find the core puller, so we had to buy another one; and we couldn't find the main water key, so we had to buy another one of those, too. And when we tried to pull the core of the faucet, we couldn't make the puller work--it was like the screw that came with it was too short. It wouldn't connect. So after fooling with it all afternoon we went back to Lowe's and found out that the screw was, in fact, too short--it had been cut or broken off short. The guy at Lowe's was nice enough to give us the screw to another puller without asking for the receipt--he said he'd just get a screw from the screw department.

So we went home and succeeded in replacing the core without too much hassle--the retaining clip wouldn't go in, but we called the Moen hotline and found out that the ears of the core needed to be at 12:00 and 6:00. After that it went in fine. We turned on the water again and found that we had corrected the leak.

But the downstairs bathtub is still full of tile and broken wallboard. No problem, we can toss that out--but we have to replace the ceiling of the shower. I helped my dad remodel a bathroom from the joists and underlayment out, but this was back in the 60s and I did not lead the project.

I've figured out that we've got to do is this:

  1. Measure the area of the former ceiling, and buy a piece of greenboard, cut to fit
  2. Estimate the number of 4"x4" porcelain tiles we'll need to put up there
  3. Buy the tiles, which will be $0.42 each
  4. Lay the greenboard on the floor and arrange the whole tiles on it.
  5. Outline where the whole tiles are with pencil
  6. Outline the spaces for, and cut the tiles on the edges
  7. Maybe number the spaces and mark the back of each partial tile with a sharpie?
  8. Nail the greenboard to the 2x6s up there
  9. Prepare tile adhesive
  10. Stick tiles on greenboard
  11. Grout thoroughly, let dry, and pray it all stays up.

Am I leaving anything out?
 
It's not that we're not handy, it's just that every time we set out to do a repair project, it always ends up being more complicated than we expect it to be.

Murphy's Fourth Law: Nothing is as easy as it appears.

Am I leaving anything out?

Other than caulking and taping around the edges of the green board, no. Oh, and buy more tiles than you'll need and rent a tile cutter.
 
Murphy's Fourth Law: Nothing is as easy as it appears.



Other than caulking and taping around the edges of the green board, no. Oh, and buy more tiles than you'll need and rent a tile cutter.

Point taken, thanks for the advice. We have a tile saw from when we had to replace the soap dish--we had to cut the tiles on either side of it to fit. Won't it do?
 
Is this for the actual shower wall? You need a waterproofing layer behind the tile
 
When redoing my bathroom, I cut pieces of 4X8 fiberglass panel and glued them up with contact cement. If you're not concerned about the ceiling matching the walls, you could always do that. The panels I used have a pebbled finish.

On plumbers - if I have to hire one I prefer a female, because of the ass-crack thing.
 
I've figured out that we've got to do is this:

  1. Measure the area of the former ceiling, and buy a piece of greenboard, cut to fit
  2. Estimate the number of 4"x4" porcelain tiles we'll need to put up there
  3. Buy the tiles, which will be $0.42 each
  4. Lay the greenboard on the floor and arrange the whole tiles on it.
  5. Outline where the whole tiles are with pencil
  6. Outline the spaces for, and cut the tiles on the edges
  7. Maybe number the spaces and mark the back of each partial tile with a sharpie?
  8. Nail the greenboard to the 2x6s up there
  9. Prepare tile adhesive
  10. Stick tiles on greenboard
  11. Grout thoroughly, let dry, and pray it all stays up.

Am I leaving anything out?

Actually, I'd use the opportunity to NOT have tile on the ceiling -- and go with an acrylic panel over your green board.

I got hit on the head with a piece of 4x4 tile when it fell from a shower ceiling. I prefer not to be bloodied when showering.
 
Is this for the actual shower wall? You need a waterproofing layer behind the tile

No, it's the ceiling. It seldom has occasion to get any more than damp--providing it's not being leaked on from above. Someone in another forum recommended priming the greenboard.
 
SLICK TONY

I feel your pain.

The military trained me to repair almost anything you can imagine (jet engines to toilets). They did, I went thru a very long school where we were taught various blocks of technology, so that the military could plug us in wherever they needed a jack of all trades...especially at remote locations where repair shops were 100s of miles away. "Nigger-rigger" was the pre-PC term for us.

Back then technology was simple and consistent.

Thats not so today. Nothing is simple. Things change frequently. And every screw requires its own special tool.

The method to the madness is to force you to call Josephine the Plumber when you wanna take a shower or flush the toilet.
 
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