Plot Bunny ripped from the headlines!

[Montanos]

It's even worse than a newspaper. *shudder* It's Fox news.

True enough. I don't trust Fox News or MSNBC. Those two news networks are full on 'yellow press'. Their credibility is non existent and their pathological lies have further entrenched division within the United States to the point of criminal negligence.

CNN is not as bad but somewhat questionable.

Thus, I rummage around The Associated Press, Reuters, and look at British News when I try to get an opinion on U.S. News.

At the very least the British point of view makes me laugh half the time. They have a relatively quirky way to talk about "Yank" insanity.


Montanos

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Ok. I'll take back the label, but it's not normal for teachers to have sexual feelings towards students. It's similar to the incest squick factor for most of us. Not just because it's illegal, or because we'Re in a position of authority. It's squicky.

I've been reading old Pennsylvania newspapers lately, particularly the WILKES-BARRE GAZETTE and THE BRADFORD COUNTY REPORTER of the 19th Century.

Its not uncommon to see marriage announcements for January-December couples. Women in their 60s marry teen boys, as do old men and preteens. One of my ancestors, a 32 year old teacher, married a 16 year old pupil of his. It was common in the 50s. Florida raised its marriage age to 13 in 1926. We still have gals collecting their husbands' Civil War pensions.

 

[Montanos]

I've been reading old Pennsylvania newspapers lately, particularly the WILKES-BARRE GAZETTE and THE BRADFORD COUNTY REPORTER of the 19th Century.

Its not uncommon to see marriage announcements for January-December couples. Women in their 60s marry teen boys, as do old men and preteens. One of my ancestors, a 32 year old teacher, married a 16 year old pupil of his. It was common in the 50s. Florida raised its marriage age to 13 in 1926. We still have gals collecting their husbands' Civil War pensions.

Where can I read these too? Is there a website? Marriage practices of the past are actually important when building a story set in it.

Montanos

 

[PayDay]

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Why would anyone release a child predator on bail?

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/10/destrehan_high_school_teachers.html

"No matter what sex the victim is, everyone should be outraged," Glaser said.*"You have an educator. Their responsibility is the safety and the education of children. ... They should have known better."

Respess' attorney, Jeffrey Smith, said his client maintains her innocence.*"All I'm trying to do right now is getting her booked and bonded out," he said. "That's when everything -- the investigation -- begins."

The Kenner arrests came a day after St. Charles sheriff's deputies booked Dufresne with carnal knowledge of a juvenile. That incident occurred at a Montz home in September, authorities said. Dufresne's father is state District Judge Emile St. Pierre.

 

[PayDay]

I've been reading old Pennsylvania newspapers lately, particularly the WILKES-BARRE GAZETTE and THE BRADFORD COUNTY REPORTER of the 19th Century.

Its not uncommon to see marriage announcements for January-December couples. Women in their 60s marry teen boys, as do old men and preteens. One of my ancestors, a 32 year old teacher, married a 16 year old pupil of his. It was common in the 50s. Florida raised its marriage age to 13 in 1926. We still have gals collecting their husbands' Civil War pensions.

http://www.plan-uk.org/because-i-am-a-girl/

People once used leeches to cure headaches.

 

[PayDay]

More for you, JBJ:
"Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."

http://www.plan-uk.org/because-i-am...ence-against-girls/early-and-forced-marriage/

Early and forced marriage statistics:
-1 in 3 girls in the developing world*are married by their 18th birthday. This can end their chance of completing an education and puts them at greater risk of isolation and violence.
-For girls under 15 the incidence of early and forced marriage is 1 in 9. Some are married as young as five years old.
-Victims of early and forced marriage typically have children very young. Approximately 70,000 girls die in labour every year because their bodies aren’t ready for childbirth.

 

[Swilly]

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Why would anyone release a child predator on bail?

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/10/destrehan_high_school_teachers.html

There's probably a line of teen boys standing outside the perp's house.

 

[JKendallDane]

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Why would anyone release a child predator on bail?

Just for shitz~n~giggles, let's change this story to two neighborhood hotties and a three-weeks-from-seventeen high school guy that mows one of their yards ending up in a threesome. Same basic facts as far as ages and what happened...just take out the "teacher-student" factor.

How many people would be screeching "child predator" or "pedophile" then? How many would be high-fiving the kid for getting the best 17th birthday present possible? How many would be muttering "Wish it had been me" to themselves?

I am not, and won't, excuse the incredibly stupid lack of any common sense and abandoning of all professionalism the two teachers committed by violating the position of trust and authority they had, but to try to label either one or both as "child predators" is simply insane.

 

[Swilly]

I don't know about that JKD. Why would they target a sixteen year old? Because he would be pliable and easily manipulated? Isn't that what a predator does?

 

[sr71plt]

I am not, and won't, excuse the incredibly stupid lack of any common sense and abandoning of all professionalism the two teachers committed by violating the position of trust and authority they had, but to try to label either one or both as "child predators" is simply insane.

You can't just erase the "person in authority" aspect to this case. Teachers are in a position of authority and have responsibility attached to it. Other scenarios don't matter.

 

[JKendallDane]

I don't know about that JKD. Why would they target a sixteen year old? Because he would be pliable and easily manipulated? Isn't that what a predator does?

Sure it fits the term "predator." Whether that is the whole story, we don't truly know yet.

What I have a problem with is tagging the word "child" to it when we are talking about a kid who was three weeks or less from being legally able to consent.

 

[JKendallDane]

You can't just erase the "person in authority" aspect to this case. Teachers are in a position of authority and have responsibility attached to it. Other scenarios don't matter.

And did I say anything different? The teachers fucked up. Bad! That isn't even up for discussion as far as I am concerned.

Other scenarios do indeed matter, because if this was about the same high school boy and two college professors that didn't have any professional authority over him, this would be a near completely non-story.

 

[sr71plt]

This is a case where age doesn't matter all that much. It's the aspect of use of position of authority. If a college professor fucks a nineteen-year-old student, he/she is going to get bounced out of the position of authority too. It's not going to be a criminal case, but it's going to put an end to the relative power position.

 

[LaRascasse]

And they're out on bail, presumably to hunt down their 16-yo boytoy. I bet there's a parade of barely legal kids following their every step.

LINK

 

[lovecraft68]

I don't know about that JKD. Why would they target a sixteen year old? Because he would be pliable and easily manipulated? Isn't that what a predator does?

That's why they're called cougars. They are predators, although your average cougar is looking in the early twenties range.

I still default back to if this was reversed the teachers would claim the little slut led them on.

I know people will thank that's a ridiculous statement, but....when you have had the displeasure of sitting through over a dozen rape and domestic abuse trials as a character witness you would be appalled at what the defense will try and even more appalled at the fact they sometimes win with it.

Anyway, what they did was obviously wrong and they should lose their jobs at the least.

But sorry if I refuse to believe this kid is an outright victim. A threesome with two older women, oh yes, how he suffered if only my high school days were that traumatic.

They're being jumped on because they're women, when its men its.....yeah its a crime because it "has" to be but every excuse in the world is levied for the male, never the female.

Because our civilized country is as misogynistic as it ever was and most likely will be.

Reason 111 why men disgust me and enablers like the ones that dominate this site disgust me.

If this were two men know what it would be here?

A real fucking plot bunny. NO judgement for the men, no what were they thinking , nope just a good for them.

In fact it would only take three posts before it became a non con plot bunny, the teachers rape the girl, brutally then sell her into sexual slavery to be gang raped forever like the little whore deserves!

Right?

This is where you all lie to yourselves and tell me no.

 

[sr71plt]

No, at 16/17, I wouldn't see the guy as a victim. The age we set for victimization in those terms is artificially high, I think. I'd probably put it at 14.

For these dingbat teachers, though, that's irrelevant. They are old enough to understand the law and the jeopardy teachers are in in this regard.

 

[PayDay]

You can't just erase the "person in authority" aspect to this case. Teachers are in a position of authority and have responsibility attached to it. Other scenarios don't matter.

Amen.

 

[PayDay]

But sorry if I refuse to believe this kid is an outright victim. A threesome with two older women, oh yes, how he suffered if only my high school days were that traumatic.

Ask his parent(s), they're legally his decision maker, which is the point.

He was placed in a situation by two adults where he wasn't aware of the consequences, because if he was, he wouldn't have bragged.

They have also interrupted his natural emotional developement in the midst of puberty, and potentially gave him STDs.

What if he's low IQ? What if he has a developemental disabilty?

You're dead on on the predator part.

 

[JKendallDane]

They have also interrupted his natural emotional developement in the midst of puberty, and potentially gave him STDs.

Something tells me that if he were only "in the midst of puberty" that he probably wouldn't have ended up in bed with two older, experienced women. Since he slept with the younger teacher at least once before the threesome, my bet is that is that he is already through puberty and hung like a pony, and she did some bragging of her own to her friend.

He was a couple weeks shy of seventeen for fuck's sake...stop talking like he was ten or eleven and just learning what a hard-on is.

 

[Handley_Page]

Have the accused had their Teacher's Licence suspended ?
Surely it's a simple abuse of power/ trust ?

 

[PayDay]

Something tells me that if he were only "in the midst of puberty" that he probably wouldn't have ended up in bed with two older, experienced women.

Unless they are child molesters. These women, considering the threesome, are just as likely to go after a girl.

Since he slept with the younger teacher at least once before the threesome, my bet is that is that he is already through puberty and hung like a pony, and she did some bragging of her own to her friend.

Pictures or it didn't happen. You have ZERO basis of proof for this statement. I wonder why you would support the actions of these teachers with ZERO proof.

He was a couple weeks shy of seventeen for fuck's sake...stop talking like he was ten or eleven and just learning what a hard-on is.

How do you know? Ever heard of a late bloomer? His world coniststs of his home town and high school.

'Because he liked it' or 'because it made him feel good' is not a valid reason for it to be ok.
In Point Of Fact: Pedophiles, child molesters, and statuatory rapists often use those same words to shame kids into not reporting.

The thing most of the teacher supporters in this thread seem to be missing is the phrase: 'emotional maturity' and 'minor'

This would make a 'good' lit story if followed the Submission Guidelines, but it's a real life travesty.

 

[PayDay]

Have the accused had their Teacher's Licence suspended ?
Surely it's a simple abuse of power/ trust ?

I can't seem to find anything about it other than one of the teacher's fathers is a judge and the kid gave a full confession.

 

[PayDay]

Something tells me that if he were only "in the midst of puberty" that he probably wouldn't have ended up in bed with two older, experienced women. Since he slept with the younger teacher at least once before the threesome, my bet is that is that he is already through puberty and hung like a pony, and she did some bragging of her own to her friend.

He was a couple weeks shy of seventeen for fuck's sake...stop talking like he was ten or eleven and just learning what a hard-on is.

...and another thing. I saw nothing about the teachers bragging. They wouldn't, because they know it's illegal.

 

[PayDay]

...and another thing. I saw nothing about the teachers bragging. They wouldn't, because they know it's illegal.

..and how do I know this? (yes I quoted myself)

When asked by the police, the teachers admitted to 'carnal knowledge' but did not give a full confession. If they did nothing wrong, and there is nothing wrong with the act, why would they hide anything?

 

[Handley_Page]

I wonder how much compensation the "victim" could claim; from the perpetrators AND the School ?

[ Gee, Officer Krupke, . . . . ]