Plot Bunny ripped from the headlines!

[PayDay]

I wonder how much compensation the "victim" could claim; from the perpetrators AND the School ?

[ Gee, Officer Krupke, . . . . ]

A lifetime of skewed sexual perspective.

 

[JKendallDane]

Have the accused had their Teacher's Licence suspended ?
Surely it's a simple abuse of power/ trust ?

Both have been suspended from their positions, but can't have their teaching certificates revoked until found guilty at trial or agree to any plea bargain that includes admission of the sexual encounters. Pretty safe bet both will be looking for different careers...especially if the alleged video of the threesome is found.

 

[JKendallDane]

The thing most of the teacher supporters in this thread seem to be missing is the phrase: 'emotional maturity' and 'minor'

The thing that you keep missing is that no one is being a "teacher supporter" in this thread. Virtually everyone is saying what the two idiots did was indeed wrong, but from the standpoint that they violated the "trust and authority" position they were expected to uphold...not because they are "child molesters."

You keep waving your hands in the air and bringing up these hyperbolic phrases like "emotional maturity" and "minor" but yet keep completely ignoring the two following facts:

(1) This incident happened just three weeks ago and the "kid" is now seventeen and under the laws of Louisiana, considered to be a full adult as far as being able to consent.

(2) That if the two women hadn't been teachers in his school, and merely two neighbors or friends of the "victim's" mom...and with him being on the literal cusp of the age of consent...the odds that a prosecutor would have touched this is somewhere between getting a response of "Hell no! We have real crimes to deal with!" and "You are kidding us, right?"

 

[PayDay]

The thing that you keep missing is that no one is being a "teacher supporter" in this thread. Virtually everyone is saying what the two idiots did was indeed wrong, but from the standpoint that they violated the "trust and authority" position they were expected to uphold...not because they are "child molesters.

Saying you are the Pope doesn't make you the Pope.

You keep waving your hands in the air and bringing up these hyperbolic phrases like "emotional maturity" and "minor" but yet keep completely ignoring the two following facts:

(1) This incident happened just three weeks ago and the "kid" is now seventeen and under the laws of Louisiana, considered to be a full adult as far as being able to consent.

(2) That if the two women hadn't been teachers in his school, and merely two neighbors or friends of the "victim's" mom...and with him being on the literal cusp of the age of consent...the odds that a prosecutor would have touched this is somewhere between getting a response of "Hell no! We have real crimes to deal with!" and "You are kidding us, right?"

You are 100% full of shit there---^ and making stuff up.
Get Good: 17 is the age of consent for 12-19, hence the 'felony carnal knowledge of a juvy.'

http://www.age-of-consent.info/states/Louisiana

What is the 2014 Age of Consent in Louisiana?

The Louisiana legal Age of Consent for sexual contact is*. There are a total of nine states that have a legal age of consent of 17.

Felony carnal knowledge of a juvenile is committed when a person who is nineteen years of age or older has sexual intercourse, with consent, with a person who is between twelve and seventeen years of age. Misdemeanor carnal knowledge of a juvenile is committed when a person who is between seventeen and nineteen years of age has sexual intercourse, with consent, with a person who is between fifteen years and seventeen years of age, and when the difference between the age of the victim and age of the offender is greater than two years.

Louisiana has no Close-in-age Exemption

There are no set*close-in-age exemptions*or "Romeo and Juliet laws" to Louisiana's age of consent. This means that anyone who engages in sexual activity with someone under the age of consent in Louisiana is liable for prosecution, including people only a few years older then their sexual partner and even two individuals who are both under the age of consent.

 

[NickiC]

When I clicked on the page they had a story about a snail hunter. That takes a man of steal to hunt those crafty speed demons. I am very certain he has an arsenal but still this is seriously dangerous work. But...there should be no double standard. If that was my son I would not be happy about it and some things are better left to the imagination. For one thing those bad dye jobs will probably scar him for life.

 

[JKendallDane]

Saying you are the Pope doesn't make you the Pope.

That crazy spew doesn't even deserve a response.

You are 100% full of shit there---^ and making stuff up.
Get Good: 17 is the age of consent for 12-19, hence the 'felony carnal knowledge of a juvy.'

http://www.age-of-consent.info/states/Louisiana

Try working on your reading comprehension skills...specifically what the words "between" and "inclusive" mean. The age of consent in Louisiana *IS* indeed seventeen. Your own freakin' link states at the very beginning:

The Louisiana legal Age of Consent for sexual contact is 17 years old.

And just a little further down in YOUR OWN LINK it states:

What is the Age of Consent?

The Age of Consent is the age at which a person is deemed by Louisiana law to be capable of consenting to, and engaging in, sexual acts.

I can't help it if you decide to read either of those in some other way than the plain English that is used.

Now in case you still think I am "100% full of shit and making stuff up," try reading the following found here: http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/louisiana-age-of-consent-lawyers.html

Age of Consent in Louisiana

In Louisiana, age of consent laws are more complicated than those of most other states.

There is no definite age of when a minor may consent to sex in Louisiana. Instead, it varies depending on a few factors, such as the age of both parties, and the age difference, if any, between them.

In regards to the age difference, Louisiana is unique because it allows a larger age gap between younger minors than older minors. A person between the ages of 13 and 15 can consent to have sex with someone who is up to 3 years older than them, but a person between the ages of 15 and 17 may consent to sex only if the other person is 2 years older or less. For example, in terms of a 3 years age difference, a 13 year old can consent to sex with a person who is 16 years old, but a 15 year old may not consent to sex with a 18 year old.

However, a person 17 or older can consent to have sex with a person of any age.

Be sure to catch that last sentence too. Maybe read it three or four times so it sinks in!

 

[PayDay]

That crazy spew doesn't even deserve a response.

Try working on your reading comprehension skills...specifically what the words "between" and "inclusive" mean. The age of consent in Louisiana *IS* indeed seventeen. Your own freakin' link states at the very beginning:

And just a little further down in YOUR OWN LINK it states:

I can't help it if you decide to read either of those in some other way than the plain English that is used.

Now in case you still think I am "100% full of shit and making stuff up," try reading the following found here: http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/louisiana-age-of-consent-lawyers.html

Be sure to catch that last sentence too. Maybe read it three or four times so it sinks in!

Hahahaha.
I understand what it says.
See something for what it is, not what you want it to be.

You need a good re read. That law is clearly written. I think you might think that the age of consent means 'able to make adult choices' It does not. It also does not apply to individuals above the age of 19.

Like I said. Get good.

Also: Defend the teachers some more why don't you?.

 

[PayDay]

Both have been suspended from their positions, but can't have their teaching certificates revoked until found guilty at trial or agree to any plea bargain that includes admission of the sexual encounters. Pretty safe bet both will be looking for different careers...especially if the alleged video of the threesome is found.

Pictures, a link, or some variation of proof, otherwise it didn't happen.

 

[Handley_Page]

I realise that the laws can be very different between this or that state.
But if several have a fluid definition of "old enough" how come Lit insists on 18 ?
Don't get me wrong; that's the Rule and I don't have a problem with it (in the UK it's 16 can that can be a bit fluid at times).
Is the age of consent 18 in most (the majority of) states, then ?

 

[sr71plt]

I realise that the laws can be very different between this or that state.
But if several have a fluid definition of "old enough" how come Lit insists on 18 ?
Don't get me wrong; that's the Rule and I don't have a problem with it (in the UK it's 16 can that can be a bit fluid at times).
Is the age of consent 18 in most (the majority of) states, then ?

Since it's personal choice within the Web site's rights, doesn't this question need to go directly to the Web site administrators (probably to be answered for the millionth time "because it's our right to set that age" trumping response). It seems obviously to me that they are going with industry standard on where the trouble line is.

Even in this case being yammered back and forth, I don't see the argument. "Almost seventeen" isn't seventeen. And everyone involved had the brains to know that.

 

[Montanos]

Since it's personal choice within the Web site's rights, doesn't this question need to go directly to the Web site administrators (probably to be answered for the millionth time "because it's our right to set that age" trumping response). It seems obviously to me that they are going with industry standard on where the trouble line is.

Hmm.

What sr71 said.

 

[Hypoxia]

If only the kid had been an Orc, there'd be no problem.

 

[JKendallDane]

Hahahaha.
I understand what it says.
See something for what it is, not what you want it to be.

You need a good re read. That law is clearly written. I think you might think that the age of consent means 'able to make adult choices' It does not. It also does not apply to individuals above the age of 19.

Like I said. Get good.

Also: Defend the teachers some more why don't you?.

(Note to self: Payday is either being willfully ignorant or being a troll. In either case, any further effort in getting him to comprehend simple English is a complete waste of time.)

Pictures, a link, or some variation of proof, otherwise it didn't happen.

Are you incapable of typing "Louisiana Teachers Suspended" into a Google search?

 

[JKendallDane]

I realise that the laws can be very different between this or that state.
But if several have a fluid definition of "old enough" how come Lit insists on 18 ?
Don't get me wrong; that's the Rule and I don't have a problem with it (in the UK it's 16 can that can be a bit fluid at times).
Is the age of consent 18 in most (the majority of) states, then ?

Lit takes the safe way out with 18...mainly because it keeps the far-right wingnuts from being able to scream about promoting pedaphilia and targeting the site for abuse and possibly even legal action.

Thanks to the USA's state's rights provisions of the constitution, we have a gigantic mishmash of different laws and ages of consent. The breakdown for the fifty states is:

Eleven states set it at 18
Nine states set it at 17
Thirty states set it at 16

(source: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_sexual_consent_in_the_United_States )

Now add in the problem for LIT in that, even though sixteen is used by the overwhelming majority of the states, there is federal law that criminalizes any sexual activity with someone under 18 where the internet or other electronic communication is involved. And there ARE enough whackos out there that would jump all over the idea of a fictional stories involving fictional eighteen year old guys and their fictional sixteen year old girlfriend as "promoting sexual activity" and start a campaign to shut down the site.

Up until 2003 it was even worse, as many states had differing ages of consent based on gender and/or based on orientation.

 

[Handley_Page]

Since it's personal choice within the Web site's rights, doesn't this question need to go directly to the Web site administrators (probably to be answered for the millionth time "because it's our right to set that age" trumping response). It seems obviously to me that they are going with industry standard on where the trouble line is.

I figured as much, but Thank You. Let's face it, it's their train set!

Lit takes the safe way out with 18...mainly because it keeps the far-right wingnuts from being able to scream about promoting paedophilia and targeting the site for abuse and possibly even legal action.

Eleven states set it at 18
Nine states set it at 17
Thirty states set it at 16

Thank you.

 

[PayDay]

(Note to self: Payday is either being willfully ignorant or being a troll. In either case, any further effort in getting him to comprehend simple English is a complete waste of time.)

I'm not the one misunderstanding, and you have no response. Got it. Also: Can doesn't mean should.

Are you incapable of typing "Louisiana Teachers Suspended" into a Google search?

You're the one making bold claims.

 

[PayDay]

I realise that the laws can be very different between this or that state.
But if several have a fluid definition of "old enough" how come Lit insists on 18 ?

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=22041
1/16/2001

I don't mind illusions to virginity lost before the age of 18. However, graphic descriptions of such won't be printed on the site. It's not a statement of good vs. bad, immoral vs. moral. We're not even implying that writing about underage sex is illegal. It's just a way to keep our site out of harm's way.*

Federal law is as such that fictional depictions in drawings and words are not illegal if it contains underage stuff, but the age rule is why I like Lit

Don't get me wrong; that's the Rule and I don't have a problem with it (in the UK it's 16 can that can be a bit fluid at times).
Is the age of consent 18 in most (the majority of) states, then ?

Pretty much, unless prewritten parental consent is involved, and often not then either.

 

[JKendallDane]

Quote of HandlyPage: "Don't get me wrong; that's the Rule and I don't have a problem with it (in the UK it's 16 can that can be a bit fluid at times).
Is the age of consent 18 in most (the majority of) states, then ?"

PayDay babbles: "Pretty much, unless prewritten parental consent is involved, and often not then either."

Thanks Payday, for proving just exactly how clueless you are about the facts concerning the age of consent laws in the USA.

 

[PayDay]

Thanks Payday, for proving just exactly how clueless you are about the facts concerning the age of consent laws in the USA.

Awesome. Personal attacks and projecting. Good for you.

 

[JKendallDane]

You post something that is that grossly incorrect, deal with being called out on it.

 

[PayDay]

You post something that is that grossly incorrect, deal with being called out on it.

Awesome. More projecting. Way to go. Maybe you should re read the thread.

 

[Montanos]

If only the kid had been an Orc, there'd be no problem.

Amen.

 

[Boxlicker101]

These are ages of consent and other conditions in the USA. I have never heard or read anything about parental consent for sex. Somehow, I can't imagine a young man approaching his 16 year old girl friend's father and saying: "I want to fuck your daughter but I need your written consent to do so."

Parental consent is usually required for a person under 18 to get married but I don't believe a parent can give consent for an underage person to have sex.

http://aspe.hhs.gov/hsp/08/sr/statelaws/summary.shtml

 

[JKendallDane]

These are ages of consent and other conditions in the USA. I have never heard or read anything about parental consent for sex. Somehow, I can't imagine a young man approaching his 16 year old girl friend's father and saying: "I want to fuck your daughter but I need your written consent to do so."

Parental consent is usually required for a person under 18 to get married but I don't believe a parent can give consent for an underage person to have sex.

It's real simple. They can't.

PayDay was doing what he has done through this entire discussion: Ignoring facts and just posting whatever craziness he wanted to believe.

Or troll with.

 

[PayDay]

It's real simple. They can't.

PayDay was doing what he has done through this entire discussion: Ignoring facts and just posting whatever craziness he wanted to believe.

Or troll with.

Stop saying I am doing what you are. It's tedious and stupid.

Consent does not only apply to sex, get a bigger brain and stop thinking so narrow.

I have not:
1.Posted any craziness.
2.Ignored facts.
3.Ever had the ability to believe whatever I want.

If you have latent personal issues with me, that's fine, but don't go posting bold claims when you started a thread about how it's hot for two teachers to sleep with a student.

If you are so right in your thinking, goto LA, sleep with a 17 y/o, and then go tell the cops.

/me waits