PLEASE! Stop replying to "Unregistered" trolls

[Shy Tall Guy]

Every time you do you make it harder to get rid of them.

There is a bump campaign going on right now, and you people who reply to their threads are making it difficult.

Please see my Troll 101 thread for details

 

[Tyrael]

I had no idea you could post without registering. It must be something peculiar to VBulletin, cuz I've never seen "Unregistered" anywhere else but here and I post at many boards.

 

[TWB]

Sorry

Sometimes I can't resist.

 

[Shy Tall Guy]

I had no idea you could post without registering. It must be something peculiar to VBulletin, cuz I've never seen "Unregistered" anywhere else but here and I post at many boards.

I think it is an option - other VB boards have dissallowed posting without registering, but I think here the idea is to allow it so people can post completely anon. Unfortunately some people abuse the priviledge.

I don't mind doing the bumps, but it is really frustrating to have registered members submarining me (and others) by replying to the threads we are tryng to move off the first page.

 

[SweetBrat73]

ok seriously...what threads are we trying to bump off the first page???


Brat

 

[Shy Tall Guy]

ok seriously...what threads are we trying to bump off the first page???

What is the title of my thread?

 

[Weird Harold]

I don't mind doing the bumps, but it is really frustrating to have registered members submarining me (and others) by replying to the threads we are tryng to move off the first page.

To be perfectly honest, I find the bump campaign just as annoying, if not more annoying, than unregistered's threads being on page one.

You do realize that a bump campaign feeds the troll's ego even more than people responding to his post does? You're helping to disrupt the normal flow of the BB and chaos is all that trolls want -- whether it's futile attempts to chastise them about their vicious posts, or at least five new threads about their antics.

The only solution to trolls is "Coventry" or shunning. Pretend they don't and their posts/threads don't exist.

The very worst thing you can do to a troll is ignore them completely and that means don't disrupt the board to try to make them disappear.

 

[LukkyKnight]

Interesting perspective, WHarold. I suppose disrutpion is part of the aim, but it's a fine line between gratuitous bumping and replying to threads one finds of more interest, don't you think? I'm a proponent of ignoring them, obviously, but it always seems like there are some who utterly fail to apprehend that ignoring somebody who acts only to garner attention is better than replying to them. Finding the balance in such a public forum is tricky.

 

[Weird Harold]

I suppose disrutpion is part of the aim, but it's a fine line between gratuitous bumping and replying to threads one finds of more interest, don't you think? I'm a proponent of ignoring them, obviously, but it always seems like there are some who utterly fail to apprehend that ignoring somebody who acts only to garner attention is better than replying to them. Finding the balance in such a public forum is tricky.

When "children" misbehave to get attention, the best course is to deny the "reward" of attention. "Attention" comes in many forms, disruption of the normal course of events is just one of them.

I agree that there is a difference between replying to threads of interest and gratuitous bumping, but it's more of a chasm than a fine line.

Consider.

"Bump the push unregistered threads down" is a direct response to a troll. It blatantly and directly states that the only purpose in posting is as a response to the troll's actions.

"LOL, this is too good for page two" on the other hand says nothing about trolls or motive for the simple minded response. It implies that the thread being "bumped" is worthy of a second look by others.

Better yet, a reasoned response to an interesting thread that furthers the conversation, not only ignores the troll but gives others a reason to respond to the "bumped" thread instead of the troll's.

I do persist in trying to spread the philosophy of shunning obnoxious posters, but ....

(Really, the calluses on my forehead make beating my head on a wall virtually painless. )

 

[SweetBrat73]

Trolls 101 refresher
Dear Lit. Members,

It apparently is time that everybody take a refresher course on trolls - so here goes:

For the most part trolls just want your attention and for the most part they don't care how they get it. The really cowardly ones refuse to register, or to use their registered nickname, then insult some member of the board. Responding to their posts and threads gives them the attention they crave.

The best and only proven way of successfully dealing with trolls is to ignore them as if they did not exist.

So please people - do not feed the trolls!

Ignore them and they will go away.



The above post does not apply to those who post as Unregistered to ask valid questions they would otherwise feel uncomfortable posting under their registered name.

Valid anonymous questions/posts do not include flaming or insulting, but rather posts such as the young lady who had questions about her attraction to other women. Personally I think she could have posted using a nickname, but that was her choice and she obviously wasn't a troll.

This was a quote from STG in another post...called Trolls 101 refresher. Doesn't look like he followed his own advice does it?

Would ask why he didn't for myself...but I'm on ignore now for bumping Unregistered threads...LoL oh well. I have more important things to deal with than somebody who can't take what they give on the internet...


Brat

 

[SweetBrat73]

I asked what threads he really wanted to get rid of. Since STG said some unregistered ppl posts valid threads...I was wanting to know which unregistered posts he thought should be moved off...guess I didn't word it right though cause the below is the answer I got.

What is the title of my thread?

See in one place he wants all unregistered threads off the board and in another he says that some unregistered threads are ok. So what's the real deal???


Brat

 

[pabloback]

do you want these threads off the board because they are attacking you stg?
do these trolls have a valid point?
is this a form of censorship?
a concerted campaign on this issue, are you attempting to hide a murky secret?
do i care one way or the other anyway?
there are more questions than answers [johnny nash]

 

[Siren]

Does seem like a way of controlling Literotica

 

[Guest]

something fishy going on STG.

 

[Dhalgren]

All it takes is one person to drag up a thread simply because they want to..in just mere seconds.

How much time does it take..thereafter to rid the board of a thread -no one should bother opening in the first place?

 

[Siren]

And who decides what belongs here and what doesnt?

 

[cymbidia]

We have a culture here.
Within the broad ideas of Lit culture, poking at unreg trolls is considered undesireable. Like many others, i've posted more than once on this topic.

However, i think it more distasteful to develop some kinda "hive mind" attitude about the process and policy of shunning such undesireables. I have no intention of faling into line, a good little girl, with regard to anyone else's ideas of what's best and right. If their ideas fit mine, all is well. Otherwise, sorry, but i'm going to go my own way.

STG, i think your heart is in the right place on this but your pugnacious attitude about it sucks. You're coming off as the Self-Appointed Lit Police On Matters Of Responding To Trolls. Is that what you intended? Perhaps you simply wanted to offer some friendly advice?

Don't push so hard, STG.
One catches more flies with honey than with vinegar.

 

[lobito]

Not trying to stat a fight here STG, but more often than not here lately, if always, everyone else is wrong wtih what they say, and YOU have the right answer for everyone, and everything. What YOU say, doesn't go for the whole board, we ALL are individuals, and we ALL have out own opinions,a nd experiences, just becasue yours are different, doesn't make OURS wrong.

Are YOU every going to realize that YOU don't get what YOU want all the time. You started AT LEAST 3 threads about this on Tuesday. What good did it do? not a ficking BIT of good, ti made the situation worse. I'm going against my better judgement right now, by even posting in this shit.

I agree wtih Siren, that we don't need the Lit police. The banners up at the TOP of each page says it all for me.

Lobito Lindo

 

[Dhalgren]

You are absolutely right..Siren.

You just can't get rid of that smelly uncle that shows up drunk and insulting..at every Thanksgiving.

Some choose to silently watch him insult poor aunt Irene..
Some ignore him and sit way on the other end of the table..
Some agree and think he is just wonderful..
Some are tired of his shit and tell him so..loudly during dessert.


All will happen..
It's up to you how you deal with it.

 

[hatara]

It's not so much that people post without registering that annoys me so much.

What is annoying though is the person that posted without registering to bash someone and when he could get people to respond posted yet another thread to bash the same person and copied what he had said from the original thread.

Multiple post of an unregister thread bashing someone is totally pointless. Although I think it is ridiculous to go after someone as unregistered I will not argue with their right to do it. But I do think only one thread should be allowed to remain on the board and the administrators should just delete the others.

Well just an opinion and suggestion.

 

[Shy Tall Guy]

Some people apparently just can't let it drop.



But that's okay. If you can't understand that I was asking (I used the word "please") and not telling, then that is okay too. Go ahead and call me the "Lit. police" all you want (you might try something more original ).

Despite the fact I already admitted yesterday that I made a mistake, and that I was wrong, some people always feel they need to pile on and bring this up when it was otherwise over with.

That's okay too - go ahead and encourage the trolls, feel free to turn Lit. into a newsgroup and drive not only new people away, but regulars too.

Have fun.

Oh, and Unregistered? Yeah, you win - go ahead, post your useless drivel, insults and multiple threads all you want. That is what these people want.

Enjoy.

 

[Weird Harold]

Re: Does seem like a way of controlling Literotica

If people want to respond..........let them
that is what this bb is for.

if people want to ignore the threads they will
and these threads will fall away on their own.

But making a campaign to get rid of them
is almost as annoying as the threads themselves,

I made the point that a campaign to bump threads indiscriminately is as annoying and disruptive to the BB as a few obnoxious posts by a troll early on last night.

However, ...

Do you think it is proper to stand by and ignore the fact that people are perpetuating the hatefull intent by posting their righteous indignation in response to an obnoxious post?

STG intended to make people aware that posting on a troll's thread, especially one that makes it's hateful nature obvious in the title, only keeps that hate at the top of page one. I DO NOT agree with his attempt to force it off the page, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I didn't hope he would succeed.

I am perplexed that people's dedication to free speech leads them to denounce any attempt to request people to stop assisting hatemongers in their task, and in some cases actually leads them to helping themselves in the name of "I can post whatever I want whereever I want."

Please, feel free to post on any thread you want. You can even feed trolls if that's what trips your trigger.

Just don't clad yourself in righteousness while you make an ass of yourself by helping troublemakers disrupt the board, and expect me to perceive you as anything other than a selfish brat!

 

[Siren]

your diatribe and name calling was both unnecessary and unwarranted WH

 

[Weird Harold]

Re: your diatribe and name calling was both unnecessary and unwarranted WH

one more thing.....just cuz an issue was discussed yesterday evening........doesnt mean everyone discussed it...many dont open a thread until next day.........
so in fairness..........it is not reopening an issue
but discussing an issue.

Just one point.

The post I referred to as "last night" is the seventh post in this thread.

I did get your PM and will reply to it shortly.

 

[Siren]

WH it was also referred by STG in his last posting