Planned Parenthood and ACLU Oppose California Bill That Would Set Minimum Marriage Age at 18

[BabyBoomer50s]

My entire childhood was taken from me”: At 15, Sara Tasneem was forced into an arranged marriage with a man nearly twice her age. She had her first child at 16 and was taken out of the country. It took her years to get her life back. Now, she’s fighting for a law that would ban child marriage in the state but faces opposition from an unexpected place -- Planned Parenthood. ••• Fight over the numbers:Anti-child-marriage activists say more than 9,000 minors reported being married in California. Planned Parenthood cites data saying it's up to 15 nuptials. Who’s right?

https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/07...ild-marriage-after-bill-stalls-in-statehouse/

 

[ll74]

Paywalled. Do you have a source with the text of the legislation?

My guess is that they object to specific language rather than the overall banning.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

This will get you past the paywall

http://archive.today/

 

[RobDownSouth]

Paywalled. Do you have a source with the text of the legislation?

My guess is that they object to specific language rather than the overall banning.

‘My entire childhood was taken from me’: Advocates push for ban on child marriage after bill stalls in statehouse

Article with paywall removed. Interesting read, the census data is far different than county-reported data. Explanation is county-reporting mandate of juvenile marriages is unfunded.

 

[DeluxAuto]

BB uses a lot of paywall sources so he either pays for them all or doesn't read then at all.

 

[ll74]

Thank you.

I agree that reproductive healthcare should.be accessible by all. I am not sure I understand how this would interfere with such things, but support the position that it should not be interfered

“We support what we believe are the intentions of the bill, to address the harms of coerced and abusive relationships on young people and protect them from abuse,” the letter reads. “However, we also strongly believe in and support self-determination and bodily autonomy for all people, including young people who are pregnant and/or parenting.”

 

[AlexBailey]

What a complicated issue.

My wife is a social worker with homeless people, many of whom are foster kids or young adults who were teen parents. There a many factors at work with this issue and every case has its own unique circumstances.

I can see how banning marriage to anyone under 18 could have negative consequences for some - especially for those with dysfunctional families but I can also see how being married off at a young age can be bad.

I think maybe there should be a ban on underage marriage with exceptions for emancipated minors. They have already been determined to be responsible for themselves, why should they be prevented from marrying?

 

[RobDownSouth]

BB uses a lot of paywall sources so he either pays for them all or doesn't read then at all.

life is too short to read the entire article when Comrade Putin is only paying a nickel per shitpost.
He's gotten much more efficient (and wealthier) by using the "Rightguide Method" and scanning for headlines that support his preconceived political bias.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

BB uses a lot of paywall sources so he either pays for them all or doesn't read then at all.

Most of the links I post are not paywalled but on occasion I do post things that are. Sorry you’re having difficulty accessing the story using http://archive.today/

Maybe someone here is willing to teach you how to use it.

 

[RoryN]

Marriage is an outdated institution.

The data doesn't lie.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Most of the links I post are not paywalled but on occasion I do post things that are. Sorry you’re having difficulty accessing the story using http://archive.today/

Maybe someone here is willing to teach you how to use it.

I routinely post the archive link on paywalled sites so my intended audience doesn't have to jump through extra hoops. The archive link is now permitted as a valid link type on Lit (archive.today translates to archive.ph/so-and-so)

 

[ll74]

I routinely post the archive link on paywalled sites so my intended audience doesn't have to jump through extra hoops. The archive link is now permitted as a valid link type on Lit (archive.today translates to archive.ph/so-and-so)

One can easily take two seconds extra to find a non paywalled site as well.

But to each their own. I don't bypass paywall and instead just go to other sites that don't require it

 

[RobDownSouth]

One can easily take two seconds extra to find a non paywalled site as well.

But to each their own. I don't bypass paywall and instead just go to other sites that don't require it

Yes, that's true by and large, but Bloomberg and the Wall Street Journal make things as difficult as possible so I make sure I can pop their paywall in order to back up my rhetoric. I use the Archive Page browser extension daily (not gonna pay for ESPN+ premium to find out about baseball trades, dammit).

 

[DeluxAuto]

Most of the links I post are not paywalled

I said you use "a lot." Quit being irrelevantly defensive, .

Sorry you’re having difficulty accessing the story

I never said that, learn to read.

Maybe someone here is willing to teach you how to use it.

I never said I didn't know how to use it, learn to read.

 

[DeluxAuto]

life is too short to read the entire article when Comrade Putin is only paying a nickel per shitpost.
He's gotten much more efficient (and wealthier) by using the "Rightguide Method" and scanning for headlines that support his preconceived political bias.

Reading past the sensational headlines usually refutes their narrative.

 

[wizzard426]

dim0KKKrats like to groom them young!

 

[DeluxAuto]

dim0KKKrats like to groom them young!

English, muthafucka. Do you speak it?

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Trumptards want to marry underage girls before they're smart enough to stay away from them.

 

[glamorilla]

Maybe we should let the deciding factor on marriage be when you show proof you can support yourself.

Mandatory abortions on all unwed pregnancies.

 

[Lazaran]

Maybe we should let the deciding factor on marriage be when you show proof you can support yourself.

Mandatory abortions on all unwed pregnancies.

^
Someone supports a living wage.

Progress???

 

[glamorilla]

^
Someone supports a living wage.

Progress???

that will never happen again with the floodgates open.

 

[AlexBailey]

Maybe we should let the deciding factor on marriage be when you show proof you can support yourself.

Ignoring your glib comment…

It wouldn’t work well for lots of people with “traditional family values.”

There are still many people who believe a woman’s place is in the home and not in the workplace, so they would take exception to ‘forcing’ a woman to be financially independent before being eligible for marriage.

 

[glamorilla]

Ignoring your glib comment…

It wouldn’t work well for lots of people with “traditional family values.”

There are still many people who believe a woman’s place is in the home and not in the workplace, so they would take exception to ‘forcing’ a woman to be financially independent before being eligible for marriage.

So then at what age do you deem necessary to be able to wed and procreate?

 

[Lazaran]

that will never happen again with the floodgates open.

The "floodgates" that republicans LIED about being open??? (That republican LIE was used by human traffickers to entice migrants to make the dangerous journey to the U.S., btw.)



The "floodgates" that the republicans LEFT open by sabotaging the border security bill???



The "floodgates" that President Biden closed with his EO after the republicans sabotaged the border security bill???



Yeah, thought so.

 

[HisArpy]

I agree with the opposition to the statute. Common sense will tell you that it's a ultra conservative knee jerk reaction to a non existent problem. Which means it's politically driven.

When politics attempts to intervene in personal relationships, it's time to tell the politicians, regardless of party, to fuck off.