Pirating

[CandiCame]

Do you guys think that the ease of pirating makes us enjoy stuff less? I just got a 14gig card for my ds and realized that since it takes 2 seconds to download a game I'd play it, and if I didn't immediently like it, I'd delete it. Nevermind that Bri or my brother or someone might like it and they frequently play the thing. When I was little, and you had to sit and wait to download something, and it took hours and hours, you would play that sombitch for at least an hour before you deleted it, because you had to work for it.

Just a thought.

 

[kbate]

I think your theory is without merit.

If I download a movie that sucks, I stop and choose another. If I rented a movie that sucked back when we rented DVDs (and VHS tapes) I rewound or reboxed and didn't watch it.

Ease of access has nothing to do with enjoyment.

I enjoyed spending the $50 I found on the street just as much as the $50 I earned at my job.

 

[lovetoread]

I find the idea of pirates sexy.

 

[kbate]

I find the idea of pirates sexy.

So do the people who think stealing online is cool because it's called piracy and not stealing.

 

[Sean]

It let's me try stuff I'd never consider spending money on.

 

[Sean]

So do the people who think stealing online is cool because it's called piracy and not stealing.

Stealing deprives the victim of the materials stolen. Piracy doesn't.

 

[girlsmiley]

Time. It took time back in the day. You would walk to the video store and stand in the aisle for 20 whole minutes. Looking. Reading. Trying to find something to watch. And you get home and you make popcorn and hop on the couch. And then you walk back to the store and slip it in the return slot.

Now you click.

 

[kbate]

Stealing deprives the victim of the materials stolen. Piracy doesn't.

Stealing deprives the victim of the money due for the service or good. so does piracy.

 

[bronzeage]

I don't like it when people steal my stuff, so I try to avoid stealing other people's stuff.

When someone says it's not theft, since they didn't actually deprive the person of their stuff, I say, "Tell it anyway you want."

 

[Sean]

Stealing deprives the victim of the money due for the service or good. so does piracy.

no, I wouldn't spend the money on the stuff I d/l from TPB. The global megacorps haven't lost a penny.

 

[kbate]

Time. It took time back in the day. You would walk to the video store and stand in the aisle for 20 whole minutes. Looking. Reading. Trying to find something to watch. And you get home and you make popcorn and hop on the couch. And then you walk back to the store and slip it in the return slot.

Now you click.

Seeing other people, talking, chatting, spending a buck on a coke, visiting the store on the way home, looking at the birds, trees, horses and other stuff.

Now you sit home, never see anyone and click.

 

[kbate]

no, I wouldn't spend the money on the stuff I d/l from TPB. The global megacorps haven't lost a penny.

You wouldn't spend, but someone would. That poor kid who just got a D in science because he spent his study time posting a home made movie that you refused to pay him a dime through paypal to see, now has to live his life as a ditch digger or maybe he can get lucky and get on the dole if he's from England. . .

 

[Sean]

You wouldn't spend, but someone would. That poor kid who just got a D in science because he spent his study time posting a home made movie that you refused to pay him a dime through paypal to see, now has to live his life as a ditch digger or maybe he can get lucky and get on the dole if he's from England. . .

I blame the parents.

 

[kbate]

I blame the parents.

I blame Obama. Get with the times.

 

[CandiCame]

I more meant the time on napster vs bitlord, but I guess the video store counts too. Though that's also a pain in the ass because you gotta buy gas, then you gotta remember to get back to the redbox or it charges you for another day. I can't remember shit so I might as well buy the damn movie if I'm going to do that. I'll have it a month anyway.

I honestly forgot that we'd have the moral police coming to tell me not to steal. That whole, "Would you steal a car" deal. Yeah. Yeah I would. If I could steal a car by clicking a button, and the person I stole it from also got to keep the car, I'd totally steal it. And I buy the shit that I pirate and like, that's kind of the point. You vote with your cash in our society, and if I feel like an artist deserves my money, I'll give it to them. If I feel like they phoned it in, I won't. But I think that with ease my standards have raised to retarded levels. That's what I was trying to get across in the op. And I think it might be because of the time involved.

 

[girlsmiley]

Seeing other people, talking, chatting, spending a buck on a coke, visiting the store on the way home, looking at the birds, trees, horses and other stuff.

Now you sit home, never see anyone and click.

Yes.

Reminds me of Sam Levenson. I've posted this before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA96Rl9S2_U

 

[cjh]

I download a ton of music. (I pay for it; I have too many friends who are musicians who don't get jackshit for their work.) Downloading makes it easy to listen to so much music and to be exposed to stuff I'd never find in a record store around here.

That said, I don't study the music like I used to when I bought only an album or two, lugged it home, and had the cover there to remind me to listen to it.

I scroll through the stuff on my phone now and find music I've never listened to.

 

[Busybody]

they SHOULDNT get anything

isn't OBAMACARE enough for em?

 

[Busybody]

Pelosi: ObamaCare will make it much easier to be a full-time artist




Not a bad pitch. Thanks to the economic genius of Barack Obama, a lot of us are going to be “full-time artists” soon.


So, you can‘t—everybody has so much to gain from this, small businesses, as I said, seniors, young people, women, our economy. Think of an economy where people could be an artist or a photographer or a writer without worrying about keeping their day job in order to have health insurance or that people could start a business and be entrepreneurial and take risk, but not job loss because of a child with asthma or someone in the family is bipolar—you name it, any condition—is job locking.

Follow the link for MKH’s musings on who’ll be paying to cover America’s hipsters while they flounce off to follow their bliss. I was under the impression that O-Care would force everyone to purchase insurance — on pain of prison — unless they were too impoverished to afford it. Does that apply to Soul Patch too, or does he get to choose impoverishment by opting against gainful employment so that he can stay home and paint “Moonrise Over Williamsburg” or whatever? I honestly don’t know how Pelosi got to where she is being as bad of a retail politician as she is. This idiocy may play well in San Francisco, but she’s been a national figure for four years now. (Longer if you count her role as minority leader.) When do the many, many Democrats who obsess about “branding” and “messaging” pull her aside to gently suggest that sacrifice, not self-indulgence, might be a smarter talking point in the midst of a vicious recession?

 

[Liar]

So yeah, this is an open letter to you pirates out there.

You pirate a Sony Entertainment movie. What happens?

Sony Entertainment see their movie being pirated and say "See, our business model WORKS, we are POPULAR, the problem is those darn filthy pirates. More DRM!"

I, who try to buy their movies legally, gets stuck with their sucky business model and ever more egregious DRM.

So yeah. Thanks, asshats.

If you want to make a greedy business come to their senses and change how they do stuff, have some backbone and don't use their products. It's not like Iron Man 2 or whateverthefuck is food and water. You don't need it.

You're not information-wants-to-be-free pioneers of the digital age. You're just entitled dicks.

I get it. It's not theft. It's not like stealing a car.

So?

 

[islandman]

What is so egregious about DRM?

 

[CandiCame]

So yeah, this is an open letter to you pirates out there.

You pirate a Sony Entertainment movie. What happens?

Sony Entertainment see their movie being pirated and say "See, our business model WORKS, we are POPULAR, the problem is those darn filthy pirates. More DRM!"

I, who try to buy their movies legally, gets stuck with their sucky business model and ever more egregious DRM.

So yeah. Thanks, asshats.

If you want to make a greedy business come to their senses and change how they do stuff, have some backbone and don't use their products. It's not like Iron Man 2 or whateverthefuck is food and water. You don't need it.

You're not information-wants-to-be-free pioneers of the digital age. You're just entitled dicks.

I get it. It's not theft. It's not like stealing a car.

So?

You're assuming there's some kind of morality involved. I'm not trying to change the world, I'm trying to watch Iron Man. I'm not a pioneer. I'm streaming a movie.

 

[CandiCame]

Plus, this is only semi-related, but unless Sony wants to apologize for my Vio crashing and my PS3 overheating, and just PSN in general, they can kind of suck my dick. Sony's been pissing me off lately.

 

[Liar]

What is so egregious about DRM?

The "safer" it is, the more it also gets clunky, generates too many false-positives and inconveniences legit consumers, especially when it comes to movies and video games. Haven't encountered it much in music, as I either buy discs or stream.

 

[Liar]

You're assuming there's some kind of morality involved. I'm not trying to change the world, I'm trying to watch Iron Man. I'm not a pioneer. I'm streaming a movie.

That's what I said. You're being an entitled dick.

If you're poor I guess I can understand it. But still. It's not air. There's also more than enough free entertainment out there.