Peyton Manning

[IndieSnob]

Ahahahaha.

David Garrard.

That's fucking priceless.

 

[Wobnoid]

I recently mentioned this ^^ in my Peyton thread.

As previous season ticket-holders for a while, it's pretty fucky. Tailgating is a joke when you look around and see mostly everyone else wearing the opponent's jerseys and gear, no matter WHAT team it is. Hell, I even asked you for advice about my first Jets game.

When so and so come to town, their fans follow and get a nice little vacate. Bonus is them spending so much dough and seeing their team win.

I could go on but it's Ross. Ireland is pretty much his bitch on a leash.

Miami is transient. Even when they had a winner, Fins fans watched them like immigrant Jai Alai. The retirees come from some home team. The Dolphins are their bonus team. The nouveau's pick teams by jersey. Those two are the money. The U excites the believers. A couple of other teams too. Cheaper, louder and better. The Fins have to produce to be an attraction. They haven't produced - not consistently. Shit! For the money and lifestyle there? How could they? Anyway, Lebron's this-time Miami's experiment. Peyton wasn't the piece for the Dolphins. They'll have to build a brand. To produce consistently.

 

[Dribble]

No but think about it, it makes sense. They traded away a guy just starting out and showing a lot of promise for probably 4 years max out of Manning. If he's as successful as they hope then their normal draft picks will be high and so they'll have to trade for good ones to draft a young QB or they'll have to pay out the ass again for an established one and maybe not get him. They could trade now for a high pick or someone already in the league but it won't be an appealing job because they might not get to play at all for a few years and Elway has already shown he has no loyalty.

What is the average life span of a NFL player? By the time 4 years are over, half the Bronco team won't be there. Hence, if you want to win a Super Bowl and you think you are just qb away...you go for it. By the time Tebow matures enough, the team they have will be gone and they still won't have a ring. This was a smart move.

 

[Beco]

Was hoping he went to San Fran.............poor Alex Smith

 

[KRCummings]

Honestly, saying he is 1-1 in the SB may well be the dumbest football comment I've read on Lit. He's a 1st ballot hall of famer and easily one of the best if not the best QB in the game. Just look at what happened when he got injured. The Colts went from playoff contenders (for years) to worst in the league.

Denver probably learned a good lesson from the Colts about the need to have a good backup QB, especially considering his neck injury.

It wasn't a comment on his overall ability, it was a comment on Pinks thought that they might not think Tebow had it in him to win the SB. Context.

 

[KRCummings]

What is the average life span of a NFL player? By the time 4 years are over, half the Bronco team won't be there. Hence, if you want to win a Super Bowl and you think you are just qb away...you go for it. By the time Tebow matures enough, the team they have will be gone and they still won't have a ring. This was a smart move.

Maybe it was a smart move. I don't think it was but I don't manage an NFL franchise.

 

[Wobnoid]

Maybe it was a smart move. I don't think it was but I don't manage an NFL franchise.

Yep. That's pretty much it. Love him or hate him... to die in Denver? 10 things, right?

 

[Morcheeba]

Miami is transient. Even when they had a winner, Fins fans watched them like immigrant Jai Alai. The retirees come from some home team. The Dolphins are their bonus team. The nouveau's pick teams by jersey. Those two are the money. The U excites the believers. A couple of other teams too. Cheaper, louder and better. The Fins have to produce to be an attraction. They haven't produced - not consistently. Shit! For the money and lifestyle there? How could they? Anyway, Lebron's this-time Miami's experiment. Peyton wasn't the piece for the Dolphins. They'll have to build a brand. To produce consistently.

Miami is a melting pot and that's where it stems from. E.G. World Series Marlin's fans leaving during the 5th inning just to beat traffic. A Yankee fan would be slapped to death for that, yes?

Minor Heat fans texting nonstop and only looking up after a big game play. I mean, the DIEHARD FANS down here are suffocating.

Dolphins, well, as you say, they have to produce to be an attraction. I don't see it happening anytime soon and kick myself for ever believing in the Peyton to Miami tripe.

 

[KRCummings]

Yep. That's pretty much it. Love him or hate him... to die in Denver? 10 things, right?

It might be fun to watch or it might be painful. Time will tell.
I wasn't sold on Favre with the Vikings but it worked out ok for a season. Of course now they're where I think Denver is going to end up.
That's part of the game though. Every team can't be the Steelers.

 

[Wobnoid]

Miami is a melting pot and that's where it stems from. E.G. World Series Marlin's fans leaving during the 5th inning just to beat traffic. A Yankee fan would be slapped to death for that, yes?

Minor Heat fans texting nonstop and only looking up after a big game play. I mean, the DIEHARD FANS down here are suffocating.

Dolphins, well, as you say, they have to produce to be an attraction. I don't see it happening anytime soon and kick myself for ever believing in the Peyton to Miami tripe.

I pitched Peyton Saints... Helluva catch anywhere. I'll watch a lot of Denver next year. I might buy a jersey. Melting pots I know about. Suppose they built a stadium and nobody came?

 

[Saint Peter]

Every team can't be the Steelers.

Never forget history.

 

[KRCummings]

Never forget history.

Man, that QB you guys had for that game was great. Whatever you do don't let that guy go. That'd be a huge mistake and...oh.

 

[Saint Peter]

Man, that QB you guys had for that game was great. Whatever you do don't let that guy go. That'd be a huge mistake and...oh.

He will stay and brush the snow off of Peyton's car this winter.

 

[Wobnoid]

It might be fun to watch or it might be painful. Time will tell.
I wasn't sold on Favre with the Vikings but it worked out ok for a season. Of course now they're where I think Denver is going to end up.
That's part of the game though. Every team can't be the Steelers.

God! How awful! This kid doesn't need to Johnny U his way out. Favre always sold excitement to the end. Funny. Working for Elway - who was nothing like Favre - Fuck! Hopefully the Steelers have their idiot savant on leash this year. Peyton might just be that good

 

[zipman]

It wasn't a comment on his overall ability, it was a comment on Pinks thought that they might not think Tebow had it in him to win the SB. Context.

I read the thread. Not only is that comment a little ridiculous (in context) but so were a lot of your other ones. Manning makes almost any team a contender, especially one like Denver that is a decent team. So what if they pick lower in the draft? Or have to trade a pick. That's silly.

 

[pink]

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[Dribble]

I didn't know that no QB has ever won a Super Bowl for 2 different teams. There is risk, but every QB takes that risk. I was sure it would be Titans, but this doesn't surprise me.

 

[KRCummings]

I read the thread. Not only is that comment a little ridiculous (in context) but so were a lot of your other ones. Manning makes almost any team a contender, especially one like Denver that is a decent team. So what if they pick lower in the draft? Or have to trade a pick. That's silly.

I never said they weren't contenders with Manning. Unless his neck or a new injury is a problem then they probably will be.
You're mixing one argument I'm not making with one that I am.

 

[CHNOPS]

I never said they weren't contenders with Manning. Unless his neck or a new injury is a problem then they probably will be.
You're mixing one argument I'm not making with one that I am.

This is complete bullshit. Israel has been reaching out to the Palestinians for years and are rebuffed every time. Why don't you take your anti-Zionist hate speech somewhere else?

 

[KRCummings]

This is complete bullshit. Israel has been reaching out to the Palestinians for years and are rebuffed every time. Why don't you take your anti-Zionist hate speech somewhere else?

Filthy Jew footballers.

 

[Beco]

I read the thread. Not only is that comment a little ridiculous (in context) but so were a lot of your other ones. Manning makes almost any team a contender, especially one like Denver that is a decent team. So what if they pick lower in the draft? Or have to trade a pick. That's silly.

Hell, Tebow made them a better team, wonder what a healthy Manning can do?

 

[clutch1]

And Kurt Warner is the only one to make it to a super bowl with two different teams.
Or am I wrong?

 

[zipman]

I never said they weren't contenders with Manning. Unless his neck or a new injury is a problem then they probably will be.
You're mixing one argument I'm not making with one that I am.

Here are your posts. You seem to be in the vast majority when it comes to Tebow's ability as the post below shows.

He might win the Super Bowl but in 3 or 4 years they'll be right back where they started only this time they won't have Tebow and maybe nobody worth a shit and will have to trade for a decent draft pick or overpay another aging QB.

Here is where you talk about the draft picks and that how they won't get any high draft picks

No but think about it, it makes sense. They traded away a guy just starting out and showing a lot of promise for probably 4 years max out of Manning. If he's as successful as they hope then their normal draft picks will be high and so they'll have to trade for good ones to draft a young QB or they'll have to pay out the ass again for an established one and maybe not get him. They could trade now for a high pick or someone already in the league but it won't be an appealing job because they might not get to play at all for a few years and Elway has already shown he has no loyalty.

And this is the point about him being a contender. You're basing it on his super bowl record and not on his playoff record or regular season record which I think is totally crazy.

I can't imagine why they'd think that but suppose they did, in his whole career Manning is 1-1 in the SB. That's better than a lot of QB's for sure but it's hardly stellar and certainly doesn't predict any future success especially at his age and coming off an injury that sidelined him for a whole year.
If he does well and Denver thinks ahead to a transition in a few years then I'll admit I'm wrong.

Now what part of this did I get wrong?

 

[zipman]

Hell, Tebow made them a better team, wonder what a healthy Manning can do?

They're almost a guarantee to make it to the playoffs with him and a good draft pick or two.

 

[KRCummings]

Here are your posts. You seem to be in the vast majority when it comes to Tebow's ability as the post below shows.



Here is where you talk about the draft picks and that how they won't get any high draft picks



And this is the point about him being a contender. You're basing it on his super bowl record and not on his playoff record or regular season record which I think is totally crazy.



Now what part of this did I get wrong?

The SB comment was about Super Bowls. It wasn't about anything else. You're trying to make it about whole seasons and playoffs, it was in response to a comment about Super Bowls. Hence his Super Bowl record.
I said they'd have to trade for good draft picks if Manning does as well as hoped. Is that wrong? Last I knew it's how the league worked.
You're trying to make my comments some kind of anti-Manning thing, they're not. They're anti-short term thinking.