Peyton Manning

[Morcheeba]

Speaking for myself, I would just see it as another expensive patch job which in the best case might buy you a couple years of starting quarterback level perfomance (emphasize best case). For that, you are going to sink a shitload of money to get him there. Maimi already has a horrible repuation in terms of the number of quarterbacks they have brought in since Dan retired.

I understand your points but really believe they should invest in a good, young talent with the hope of developing a franchase quarterback that will be around and grow with the team for many years to come.

They recently tried that with Pat White, Chad Henne and Matt Moore. Bad choices and let's just say, the Tuna was wrong.

Earlier they passed on Drew Brees but what I didn't know until Super Bowl weekend is that a team of doctors said Drew Brees had a slim 20% chance to recover from his surgery and that Daunte Culpepper had like an 80% chance to recover so the Dolphins went with the odds but the odds fucked them up their ass holes. The other Payton from the Saints got lucky by believing in Drew Brees and not paying attention to the odds.

What I think Peyton Manning might find major issue with is what's in the water here. They go through clientele (sp) so quickly it's not even funny. Then again, he's got mostly every Dolphin fan and former players foaming from their mouths.

Stick with Matt Moore, risk on an over-rated Matt Flynn who's only played 2 NFL games or that kid of the 3rd power (who I hear sucks).

OR, go for Peyton Manning and Reggie Wayne. Reggie to take the Veteran's paycut and Peyton... whatever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Miami_Dolphins_starting_quarterbacks

Pretty fucking sad list of starting QBs for the Dolphins ^^

 

[Kruge]

They recently tried that with Pat White, Chad Henne and Matt Moore. Bad choices and let's just say, the Tuna was wrong.

Earlier they passed on Drew Brees but what I didn't know until Super Bowl weekend is that a team of doctors said Drew Brees had a slim 20% chance to recover from his surgery and that Daunte Culpepper had like an 80% chance to recover so the Dolphins went with the odds but the odds fucked them up their ass holes. The other Payton from the Saints got lucky by believing in Drew Brees and not paying attention to the odds.

What I think Peyton Manning might find major issue with is what's in the water here. They go through clientele (sp) so quickly it's not even funny. Then again, he's got mostly every Dolphin fan and former players foaming from their mouths.

Stick with Matt Moore, risk on an over-rated Matt Flynn who's only played 2 NFL games or that kid of the 3rd power (who I hear sucks).


OR, go for Peyton Manning and Reggie Wayne. Reggie to take the Veteran's paycut and Peyton... whatever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Miami_Dolphins_starting_quarterbacks

Pretty fucking sad list of starting QBs for the Dolphins ^^

Actually, I did not think Matt was that bad, especially given the situation in which he took on the starting QB roll. Improvements are needed, but Matt or somebody like him who is a mobile quarterback would be ideal in my mind for Miami. I do not see Payton being that effective coming off a year with injuries and being placed on a whole new team. I also do not see him taking much of a pay cut to go down there so he is an expensive risk.

Having said that, the list of yahoos who own the team now will be attracted to his big name so I suspect your dream might easily come true.

 

[Morcheeba]

Kruge, I take it you're a Dolphins fan and not just an all-around NFL fan.

Do you also think that the Fins started to get their shit together this season once they realized how to utilize Reggie Bush as not only a rusher but a short-snap receiver? I may be a Forrest Gump in this all but that was when I smelled the coffee-flavored chocolate. Then Marshall started busting ass and we are all clear about how good he can be given the proper QB since he broke a record by going crazy at the Pro Bowl.

I want Peyton and Reggie to make this team smile once again.

 

[eyer]

Kruge, I take it you're a Dolphins fan and not just an all-around NFL fan.

Do you also think that the Fins started to get their shit together this season once they realized how to utilize Reggie Bush as not only a rusher but a short-snap receiver? I may be a Forrest Gump in this all but that was when I smelled the coffee-flavored chocolate. Then Marshall started busting ass and we are all clear about how good he can be given the proper QB since he broke a record by going crazy at the Pro Bowl.

I want Peyton and Reggie to make this team smile once again.

You know what?

Not a Fin fan in the least, I'd totally forgotten about Bush being there...

...WOW.

 

[Kruge]

Kruge, I take it you're a Dolphins fan and not just an all-around NFL fan.

Do you also think that the Fins started to get their shit together this season once they realized how to utilize Reggie Bush as not only a rusher but a short-snap receiver? I may be a Forrest Gump in this all but that was when I smelled the coffee-flavored chocolate. Then Marshall started busting ass and we are all clear about how good he can be given the proper QB since he broke a record by going crazy at the Pro Bowl.

I want Peyton and Reggie to make this team smile once again.

Yes, I am a Dolphins fan since the days of Dan Marino, although my enthusiasm has been understandably reduced in recent years.

I absolutely agree with you regarding Reggie and Marshall. I also do not dismiss, however, the role Matt played when he took over. He needs improvement but I believe he could be a good quarterback. He may not be the answer but I really think part of Miami's problem is that they bring in quarterbacks and then do not given them time to develop. Just my opinion, but I would leave him in there and spend the money you are saving by not grabbing Payton and throw it into strengthening other positions on the team.

Now, I understand about how much people want Payton. People will have smiles all over their face when he comes there. They will also have huge expectations for him. I just am not comfortable that he will live up to the hype.

 

[Morcheeba]

Just can't deal with the Payton and Dan Marion stuff. It's like you're fucking with me when all you have to do is look up and see the thread title and type his name that same way while giving your 2 cents.



Sweet Payton and Marion Dreams,


Cheebs

 

[Kruge]

Just can't deal with the Payton and Dan Marion stuff. It's like you're fucking with me when all you have to do is look up and see the thread title and type his name that same way while giving your 2 cents.



Sweet Payton and Marion Dreams,


Cheebs

Enjoy those sweet dreams Cheebs. As I said earlier, I suspect that there is a good chance your dreams will be realized

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

It’s clear that Gregg Williams’ bounty program traces back to his days with the Washington Redskins and now it looks like it might be the cause of Peyton Manning’s neck injury that almost knocked him out of football for good.

The Washington Post released an article back in September about the game in which Manning might have suffered the injury that kept him from playing this past season. In the article, former Colts head coach Tony Dungy indicated that he believed Manning’s neck injury originated from a hit he suffered against the Redskins back in 2006.

In that game Manning was brutally hit by former Redskins’ Philip Daniels and Andre Carter. During the game, Dungy was outraged by the hit and wanted a flag but didn’t get one at the time.

“Earlier in the game,” Dungy said back in September of 2011 per the Post, “I’m outraged that there was a flag for roughing-the-passer on Dwight Freeney for just grazing the quarterback’s helmet. So I’m yelling at the ref [Scott Green], ‘Where’s the flag! Where’s the flag!’ And I don’t yell much, but I did then. So I didn’t notice Peyton calling timeout and being shaken up. Peyton came to the sideline and said to [backup] Jim Sorgi, ‘Jim, start warming up.’ As the timeout went on, he said to us, ‘I can stay in, but we need to run the ball here.’ ”

“Then we sort of forgot about it at halftime, and Peyton seemed fine,” Dungy said. “He lit it up in the second half. He was on fire [throwing for 244 yards and three touchdowns]. But that’s the year we started cutting back on his throws at practice. I’m not putting two plus two together. I just figure he’s getting older and he needs some time off, he’s made enough throws. But now, as I look back on it, there’s no doubt in my mind that this was the start of his neck problems.”

Daniels later claimed the hit was legal and that the only reason it was penalized and he was fined was because the hit was on Manning.

 

[Beco]

Its football dude, get over it

 

[Wobnoid]

It’s clear that Gregg Williams’ bounty program traces back to his days with the Washington Redskins and now it looks like it might be the cause of Peyton Manning’s neck injury that almost knocked him out of football for good.

The Washington Post released an article back in September about the game in which Manning might have suffered the injury that kept him from playing this past season. In the article, former Colts head coach Tony Dungy indicated that he believed Manning’s neck injury originated from a hit he suffered against the Redskins back in 2006.

In that game Manning was brutally hit by former Redskins’ Philip Daniels and Andre Carter. During the game, Dungy was outraged by the hit and wanted a flag but didn’t get one at the time.

“Earlier in the game,” Dungy said back in September of 2011 per the Post, “I’m outraged that there was a flag for roughing-the-passer on Dwight Freeney for just grazing the quarterback’s helmet. So I’m yelling at the ref [Scott Green], ‘Where’s the flag! Where’s the flag!’ And I don’t yell much, but I did then. So I didn’t notice Peyton calling timeout and being shaken up. Peyton came to the sideline and said to [backup] Jim Sorgi, ‘Jim, start warming up.’ As the timeout went on, he said to us, ‘I can stay in, but we need to run the ball here.’ ”

“Then we sort of forgot about it at halftime, and Peyton seemed fine,” Dungy said. “He lit it up in the second half. He was on fire [throwing for 244 yards and three touchdowns]. But that’s the year we started cutting back on his throws at practice. I’m not putting two plus two together. I just figure he’s getting older and he needs some time off, he’s made enough throws. But now, as I look back on it, there’s no doubt in my mind that this was the start of his neck problems.”

Daniels later claimed the hit was legal and that the only reason it was penalized and he was fined was because the hit was on Manning.

There's so much about this that makes me wanna puke. None of it, the obvious stuff. Angles on this abound and... the sanctions are going to be... demonstrative. We're entering a new NFL. Better? Probably. A different game though. Bounties were always out there, but... never so exposed with a $$$ value. Drinks after the game... a new suit or a watch from a radio sponsor... a car? An off season 'job'? Stuff was always there to reward hits... and scores. That the pool was in house is... better? (?)

Williams goes to the Rams - and like Carroll to the Seahawks - the former team reaps the penalties. The zeitgeist requires blood. It'll have it.

 

[Beco]

There's so much about this that makes me wanna puke. None of it, the obvious stuff. Angles on this abound and... the sanctions are going to be... demonstrative. We're entering a new NFL. Better? Probably. A different game though. Bounties were always out there, but... never so exposed with a $$$ value. Drinks after the game... a new suit or a watch from a radio sponsor... a car? An off season 'job'? Stuff was always there to reward hits... and scores. That the pool was in house is... better? (?)

Williams goes to the Rams - and like Carroll to the Seahawks - the former team reaps the penalties. The zeitgeist requires blood. It'll have it.

What does Carroll have to do with it?

Williams will probably be suspened for this, worried here about the Redskins. The NFL commish is a dick and a lousy commissioner, Im sure he'll come down hard on everyone

 

[Wobnoid]

What does Carroll have to do with it?

Williams will probably be suspened for this, worried here about the Redskins. The NFL commish is a dick and a lousy commissioner, Im sure he'll come down hard on everyone

Carroll left USC for Seattle... USC suffered a great season last year despite a black cloud of sanctions over Bush (who'd transgressed while with - and known by - Pete and had left years earlier). The barn doors were nailed shut after the fact. The Redskins will slip through this... The Manning 'hit' was just conjecture. The Saints are going to lose a draft pick or two... Perhaps a Nationally televised game or two. The monetary hit will be big. Williams may - after further investigation - be heavily sanctioned. Perhaps suspended - or expelled. Still... the difference between a 'good' hit and a 'bad' one is... subject to... scrutiny.

Does a special teams player who plants a clean (but brutal ) one on a return man - an ESPN moment - and who may have been paid out of the fund deserve the same sanction as a clearly 'dirty' player? It's a league about hits and avoiding them, after all. Protect yourself at all times. An internal (defensive team) hit pool only looks bad if it promotes dirty play exclusively. The Hit Pool rewarded tough play....

Such a disgusting bunch of 8 second soundbites. The truth's gonna all be slaughtered in the recaps.

 

[Beco]

Paying players to injure other players isn't fair game in any sport.

You think football is professional wrestling. That's probably more your speed.

its football dude, nobody gives a fuck

 

[Morcheeba]

http://bplusblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/kimo.jpg

Yeah, just football, Beco

Here's a link to the full article about Dungy's thoughts on when Manning's neck issues started since Joey didn't paste it...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...ins-may-started-peyton-manning-163634407.html

 

[eyer]

All NFL business for the this current week must be transacted by 1600 ET on Friday, March 9...

 

[Kruge]

Fox Sports just announced that the Colts will release Peyton officially tomorrow

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/indianapolis-colts-to-release-peyton-manning-030612

 

[Morcheeba]

As did Yahoo! Sports...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...on-manning-cut-colts-wednesday-231935941.html

And for fuck's sake, it's PEYTON, not payton!

 

[Morcheeba]

Let's take a gander at what Colt's owner Jim Irsay has to say about this all...

Jim Irsay ‏ @JimIrsay
It's saturday night and I'm buying a round for everyone...what'da you have?

Jim Irsay ‏ @JimIrsay
Leadership is a lonely trail,but is brightly lit,by a lantern directed by God's hand

https://twitter.com/#!/JimIrsay

 

[eyer]

If it's true...

...what are the chances Manning'll announce it before the Colts get a chance to?

 

[Macdaddy23]

Manning should retire while he's at the top of his game.
Tell Irsay that he's just as much of an ass as his Dad was.

 

[Morcheeba]

My fellow Dolphins fans are going apeshit already...

And LaConfora confirms that Peyton is not like a typical FA in that a team can negotiate with him and sign him as soon as the transaction hits the waiver wire. Again, teams DO NOT have to wait until the official start of FA in cases such as these where a player who was under contract for the next season is cut before a bonus hits like this scenario. In other words, SIGN THAT GUY IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Morcheeba]

Then there's always a guy like this...

I sure hope you guys are not setting yourselfs up for a big let down.....yes, I do believe we're going to get him....the let down I'm talking about is everyone seems to think we're getting the Manning of old.....what if we're just getting the "old" and hurt Manning? Trust me, I'll be rooting for him like I always root for opur Dolphins but I sure hope we're not letting other options slip away just to have Manning play for a couple of years if that.

Ozzy rules!!

 

[Kruge]

Then there's always a guy like this...

I sure hope you guys are not setting yourselfs up for a big let down.....yes, I do believe we're going to get him....the let down I'm talking about is everyone seems to think we're getting the Manning of old.....what if we're just getting the "old" and hurt Manning? Trust me, I'll be rooting for him like I always root for opur Dolphins but I sure hope we're not letting other options slip away just to have Manning play for a couple of years if that.

Ozzy rules!!

Yup

Except perhaps for the Ozzy part, I agree with his thoughts. It's a very legitimate arguement.



Enjoy the dream.

 

[Disgustipated]

Chris Mortenson broke the news, give him the credit, he hardly breaks wind anymore.

Also, Manning is going to the Cards.