Personal theory on Trump, Putin and Ukraine

[TheOtherTeacher]

Ok. Not an American (or a Russian). Just someone watching the world news. I have thoughts and want to know if other people think my logic is sound or flawed.

My idea -
Trump thinks war with China is inevitable. (I'm not saying it is, I'm saying HE thinks that.)

Trump expects Europe to side with America by default. He's pretty sure he can insult the counties and their politicians all he likes. They still will choose America over China.

But Russia?

Russia (in his mind) are the deciding factor. If Russia is with the US, it's an easy win.
But if Russia goes to China's team, it becomes WW3, and a race to fire nukes.

Therefore, Trump will give everything Putin asks, because he's after something more than Ukraine, he's after an ally in the next big war.

(Again, not defending Trump's actions. Just trying to understand his actions)

What do you think? Am I onto something, or way off base?

 

[MajorRewrite]

I doubt Doddering Donnie thinks beyond where his next hamberder is coming from.

And no, I don’t believe he thinks China would dare attack the US.

Donnie is giving Putin everything he wants because that’s the deal they struck years ago. Russia bankrolled Donnie the last time he got himself in financial trouble.

 

[ll74]

Ok. Not an American (or a Russian). Just someone watching the world news. I have thoughts and want to know if other people think my logic is sound or flawed.

My idea -
Trump thinks war with China is inevitable. (I'm not saying it is, I'm saying HE thinks that.)

Trump expects Europe to side with America by default. He's pretty sure he can insult the counties and their politicians all he likes. They still will choose America over China.

But Russia?

Russia (in his mind) are the deciding factor. If Russia is with the US, it's an easy win.
But if Russia goes to China's team, it becomes WW3, and a race to fire nukes.

Therefore, Trump will give everything Putin asks, because he's after something more than Ukraine, he's after an ally in the next big war.

(Again, not defending Trump's actions. Just trying to understand his actions)

What do you think? Am I onto something, or way off base?

Russia is our adversary.
No aspect of our President's behavior ignores this.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Now Trump wants to support Russia’s economy …

"I am in serious discussions with President Vladimir Putin of Russia concerning the ending of the War, and also major Economic Development transactions which will take place between the United States and Russia," Trump posted on Monday, adding, "Talks are proceeding very well!"

AmERica fiRSt (but only after Russia)

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Ok. Not an American (or a Russian). Just someone watching the world news. I have thoughts and want to know if other people think my logic is sound or flawed.

My idea -
Trump thinks war with China is inevitable. (I'm not saying it is, I'm saying HE thinks that.)

Trump expects Europe to side with America by default. He's pretty sure he can insult the counties and their politicians all he likes. They still will choose America over China.

But Russia?

Russia (in his mind) are the deciding factor. If Russia is with the US, it's an easy win.
But if Russia goes to China's team, it becomes WW3, and a race to fire nukes.

Therefore, Trump will give everything Putin asks, because he's after something more than Ukraine, he's after an ally in the next big war.

(Again, not defending Trump's actions. Just trying to understand his actions)

What do you think? Am I onto something, or way off base?

Russia is weak. They are struggling to hold their own against Ukraine. They're not the "deciding factor" in a contest between the U.S. and China.

Donald Trump is a child who only cares about himself. He supports Russia not because he's playing geopolitical chess, but simply because Putin gives him goodies and strokes his ego.

 

[Politruk]

Trump buys too much of his merch from China to think of the country as a potential adversary.

 

[PaxNurgle]

It is an interesting and thought provoking theory if nothing else (and far more thought out than anything the whatever-screenname de-jour Harpy guy would come up with.) I would agree generally with BrightShinyGirl here. Trump is allied with Putin because Putin has him by the balls- basically- and because he admires Russia's current system of government and wants to emulate it.

 

[Big_Mikes_Balls]

No, trump is going to secure natural resources from Ukraine because they owe the US big time. Then he will fiercely protect them from Russia or anyone else. Then the US will sell our refined interests to the EU for a huge profit that we will use back home to build our iron dome…..EU will be forced to buy or deal with Russia. The profit will be spilt between the USA and to rebuild the new corrupt free Ukraine. The euro’s already have agreements to be paid back for every cent to the EU. Ukraine could use part of their profits to pay back their “loan”Win-win. 5D chess
MAGA

 

[Politruk]

Then he will fiercely protect them from Russia or anyone else.

Trump will never protect anything from Russia.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

No, trump is going to secure natural resources from Ukraine because they owe the US big time. Then he will fiercely protect them from Russia or anyone else.

Stop being so stupid, mike, you dumbass trumptard.

 

[ishtat]

The euro’s already have agreements to be paid back for every cent to the EU. Ukraine could use part of their profits to pay back their “loan”Win-win. 5D chess
MAGA

Provisions like that are included in deals not because there is the slightest hope or expectation they will be paid. This accounting fiction then allows the 'lending' nation to book the so called debt as an asset in their books. The USA kept the USSR's WWII debt on their books for over 60 years before a token amount was used as an excuse to write the whole remaining amount + accrued interest off. Government Accounting 101.

 

[ishtat]

Russia is weak. They are struggling to hold their own against Ukraine. They're not the "deciding factor" in a contest between the U.S. and China.

China will eventually come to Moscow and demand the return of the 900,000 KmSq of the Amur basin which Russia stole from them. The only question is when?. Every Beijing government for the last 80 years has demanded its return. Expect China's first move to be a demand for compensation for the resources wealth extracted by Russia from the region.

 

[PaxNurgle]

Wow, Hisarpy, it seems like with each new screen name you create, you get dumber and dumber.

seriously, the adults in the room are having a discussion. Go tell your mommy to take away your computer priveleges.

 

[Holy_Seduction]

Trump thinks war with China is inevitable

What the RF is to the Democratic Party, the PRC is to the GOP.

You are consigned to a third, global war. You have no say in this. But because you get to vote on whether it starts in the RF or the PRC — you are expected to confess that you have political ‘freedom.’

 

[Politruk]

Then why does he plan to build an iron dome around the US?!

No more will ever come of that than Reagan's SDI.

If Putin wanted to attack the U.S., Trump would order the armed forces to stand down.

 

[Politruk]

and illegal invaders.

You are an idiot. Immigration is not invasion.

 

[Politruk]

Unchecked Illegal immigration is an invasion.

That is 1) a lie and 2) not what happened under Biden.

 

[Politruk]

Here is one example. There are too many to list. Biden administration tore down razor wire on the Texas border in defiance to the state installing it. Texas later own but not after tons made it through. That’s allowing and perpetuating unchecked illegal immigration.

That is a lie.

 

[Bn2f]

Here is one example. There are too many to list. Biden administration tore down razor wire on the Texas border in defiance to the state installing it. Texas later own but not after tons made it through. That’s allowing and perpetuating unchecked illegal immigration.

I’m not one of your weak minded minions on the site falling for your asch conformity experiment.

What a fuckin idiot you are. Haha.

 

[Bn2f]

Here is one example. There are too many to list. Biden administration tore down razor wire on the Texas border in defiance to the state installing it. Texas later own but not after tons made it through. That’s allowing and perpetuating unchecked illegal immigration.

I’m not one of your weak minded minions on the site falling for your asch conformity experiment.

I love that you think what you posted was clever or smart.

 

[Bn2f]

I’m not one of your weak minded minions on the site falling for your asch conformity experiment.

Hahaha!
Comedy gold!
Yes, you figured out what other RW’s don’t see - that they are nothing but lab rats in this great liberal experiment. This makes you the most dangerous rat here.

 

[Politruk]

Is CNN Fake news trusted source for you?
https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/27/politics/biden-razor-wire-border-texas/index.html

Nobody crossed the border because of that.

 

[Big_Mikes_Balls]

Nobody crossed the border because of that.

 

[grey228]

Ok. Not an American (or a Russian). Just someone watching the world news. I have thoughts and want to know if other people think my logic is sound or flawed.

My idea -
Trump thinks war with China is inevitable. (I'm not saying it is, I'm saying HE thinks that.)

Trump expects Europe to side with America by default. He's pretty sure he can insult the counties and their politicians all he likes. They still will choose America over China.

But Russia?

Russia (in his mind) are the deciding factor. If Russia is with the US, it's an easy win.
But if Russia goes to China's team, it becomes WW3, and a race to fire nukes.

Therefore, Trump will give everything Putin asks, because he's after something more than Ukraine, he's after an ally in the next big war.

(Again, not defending Trump's actions. Just trying to understand his actions)

What do you think? Am I onto something, or way off base?

You're way off base.

America is already at ease with China — it's not a overt shooting war. Just a prolonged Cold War 2.0 with spies, cyberwar (I'd avoid Temu and Baidu, just FYI), fifth column shenanigans, fourth estate word-bombs, and economic conflict.

I forget which British fellow said it, but he rightly declared at the twilight of the British empire that the late 20th Century belonged to three supernations: the United States, China, and Russia.

I'm going to add India for the late 21st Century, not just because of its nukes, but because it too, has great potential.

 

[Bn2f]

Philthy_Phil

You done for the day? Wash all that shit off your hands? What do you think. Did they tear the fucking razor down or not?

Where did you go to college?