PC or MAC ?

[Austin8]

Over the past few months, the company has started familiarizing the public with other executives, such as Mac hardware chief Bob Mansfield, design guru Jonny Ive, and iPhone software head Scott Forstall.

And in a move that had many wondering if Jobs was suffering from ill health, the company had Phil Schiller, senior vice president of marketing, give the keynote speech at this year's Macworld Expo, a role Jobs has usually played to the hilt in introducing new products such as the iPhone and the MacBook Air.

Jobs said in the e-mail that he plans "to remain involved in major strategic decisions" while on his leave of absence, which implies that he'll still be playing his usual role to some degree, green-lighting some future projects and scuttling others.

But that also implies he will not be negotiating on Apple's behalf during that time, and likely won't make an appearance at Apple's June Worldwide Developers Conference or any other events the company holds in the interim.

 

[Austin8]

The photo ... depicts a photo of a nude girl snapping a photo of her reflection in a mirror. In the screenshot, the girl, who is listed as a 15-year-old from the United States

BeautyMeter is an app that functions similarly to Hot or Not and allows users to upload their own photos to be rated by others. The developers of the application do not review each uploaded photo, so there appears to be no particular filter for content. They do claim that each photo is tagged with each iPhone's unique ID so that illegal content can be traced back to the owner of the phone, however.

Apple has not commented, but the app has been pulled from the App Store. According a lawyer cited in the article, neither Apple nor the developers are likely liable for the content.

 

[trysail]

Try, and Og, good posts, man I don't remember any of that stuff!

For those who didn't live through it:
http://www.pbs.org/nerds/
http://www.pbs.org/nerds/tvdes.html

"Triumph of the Nerds: The Rise of Accidental Empires"

The series premiered in June 1996 on PBS. "... It zooms backwards on the information superhighway to show in vivid detail how youthful amateurs, hippies and self-proclaimed "nerds" accidentally changed the world. The three-hour program chronicles the birth and growth of Silicon Valley's personal computer industry.

Hosted by Bob Cringely, a longtime industry observer, the story unfolds through Bay Area garages, industrial parks and convenience stores to examine the quirky, relentless and profitable adventures of the unlikely 20th-century pioneers who created the miracle products that revolutionized the world..."

 

[cpk50]

Pc All The Way

 

[Austin8]

Try, thanks for putting up the links I'll be checking it out.

http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:_5B2MMrQr5Tt5M::www.ecosherpa.com/images/green_apple_logo.jpg

 

[hkf999]

PC or Mac

I worked for IBM for 28 years, there is not much about PC's I don't understand, that's why I bought an Imac, just tired of constantly tinkering - just want it to run

 

[Austin8]

I worked for IBM for 28 years, there is not much about PC's I don't understand, that's why I bought an Imac, just tired of constantly tinkering - just want it to run

Welcome to the AH hk!

 

[Austin8]

hk

yeah, but I know a lot like the tinkering aspect of the pc though...

 

[Austin8]

Aug. 27

Tomorrow's release of the next version of Mac OS X, also known as Snow Leopard, is by all accounts a minor update with few new user features. Even Apple calls most of the changes in the OS UI refinements that will occur under the hood.

Yet Snow Leopard is a major release in the sense that it could take the wind out of Windows 7's sails. The August 28 launch of Snow Leopard was originally supposed to take place in September. Either way, Apple has missed back-to-school buyers, but the sudden rescheduling is a tactic aimed at rival Microsoft, say industry analysts.

 

[Alex De Kok]

Fascinating thread

My mainframe memories go back to 1966 - a 32kilobyte memory, paper tape input, and one-inch magnetic tape storage. A five megabyte magnetic drum was added later. Big as an oildrum and water-cooled! 36-bit word, with 6-bit characters. Emidec 2400, made by EMI. ICL 1900-series and 2900-series replaced them. I'm pleased that my first programming was in assembly language - still have a fondness for it. Ah, memories! It's right what they say, nostalgia isn't what it used to be!

But, to get to the point of the original query! Now? PCs. Two in the office (smallest (and I mean small!) bedroom), with a KVM switch as I only have the room for a single monitor. The main one a reconditioned Medion, secondary a home-brew. Toshiba laptop, and an HP netbook, all four running Ubuntu Linux as I'm now retired and don't need Windoze any more. Crossover Linux installed for some Windows programs I still use. My good lady has a home-brewed PC, running Windows XP. All five PCs are networked, with a Xerox laser also on the network. Way overkill for what I do, but hey, I'm a geek!

Macs are tempting, but I don't have the moolah, and as I only need internet access and word processing these days, Linux suits me fine. A little bit of Perl or PHP programming, just to keep the brain cells active.

Alex

 

[IrezumiKiss]

The Snow Leopard OSX is flying pretty good. Picked up my copy the day of the release and having no problems with it so far.

Only thing is that the third-party screensaver I was using with the last OS isn't compatible with it. That kinda ticks me off because I really liked it. Trying to see if I can find a compatible alternative.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

PC Tower with a full sized keyboard I can throw at the wall when the words don't work right and MS Word. Only way to go.

 

[Liar]

PC Tower with a full sized keyboard I can throw at the wall when the words don't work right and MS Word. Only way to go.

That's what sucks about laptops. You can't rough up the keyboard.

 

[York]

I have a PC, but do not run Windows. This whole PC/Mac thing is an idiotic nonsensical thing created by a load of advertising executives who don't know the first thing about computing.

Macs are hilariously overpriced status symbols and Apple are as restrictive and as immoral as Microsoft. A company that takes open source software and turns it into proprietary software should be ashamed of themselves. Take from the community and give nothing back. Great.

The days of proprietary software are numbered thankfully. Closed source software is the reason viruses and overpriced, poor quality software abounds.

Edit: Sorry, this comes across as really grumpy, but it really irritates me how much ignorance there is in the computing world.

 

[Dragonlipz]

Using Windows XP 'Pro'; haven't and won't make the jump to Vista anytime soon.......the Toshiba laptop is working just fine, thank you........

 

[rgraham666]

I have a PC, but do not run Windows. This whole PC/Mac thing is an idiotic nonsensical thing created by a load of advertising executives who don't know the first thing about computing.

Macs are hilariously overpriced status symbols and Apple are as restrictive and as immoral as Microsoft. A company that takes open source software and turns it into proprietary software should be ashamed of themselves. Take from the community and give nothing back. Great.

The days of proprietary software are numbered thankfully. Closed source software is the reason viruses and overpriced, poor quality software abounds.

Edit: Sorry, this comes across as really grumpy, but it really irritates me how much ignorance there is in the computing world.

Spoken like a true hotrodder.

Most of us don't care whether our machine is the coolest thing on the net. We just want our machines to do what we ask of them when we ask them to do it.

Yeah, Macs are more expensive than PCs. But you get a lot more for that money. And I trust my Mac.

 

[York]

Spoken like a true hotrodder.

Most of us don't care whether our machine is the coolest thing on the net. We just want our machines to do what we ask of them when we ask them to do it.

Yeah, Macs are more expensive than PCs. But you get a lot more for that money. And I trust my Mac.

No idea what a hotrodder is!

Agreed completely on wanting our machines to do what we want when we want it, which is why I would never buy a Mac.

Completely disagree you get more for your money with a Mac. You get almost exactly the same hardware as you do with a PC but you pay a huge premium for it having an Apple badge. You get a better OS than Windows, no doubt, but again, you can get free operating systems that are better than Windows and Mac OS, so again, I don't see how you get more with a Mac.

The matter of trust is genuinely and interesting one. What is it you trust? That it won't crash?

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

That's what sucks about laptops. You can't rough up the keyboard.

I can't type worth a shit on those "chicklet" keyboards. That's why I don't own a laptop, Liar.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Using Windows XP 'Pro'; haven't and won't make the jump to Vista anytime soon.......the Toshiba laptop is working just fine, thank you........

Vista (Shaking as she even types the word) is a total piece of shit and no longer being produced. In October, Microsoft is coming out with a new op system that is very like XP Pro with all the bells and whistles of Vista. The Gurus say it's damn good. I'll wait and see on that.

 

[SimonBrooke]

My mainframe memories go back to 1966 - a 32kilobyte memory, paper tape input, and one-inch magnetic tape storage. A five megabyte magnetic drum was added later. Big as an oildrum and water-cooled! 36-bit word, with 6-bit characters. Emidec 2400, made by EMI. ICL 1900-series and 2900-series replaced them.

Oh, happy days. All the joys of MOP - and I always wondered whether ICL's marketing department knew that George III was mad.

 

[SirLicksAalot]

Completely disagree you get more for your money with a Mac. You get almost exactly the same hardware as you do with a PC but you pay a huge premium for it having an Apple badge. You get a better OS than Windows, no doubt, but again, you can get free operating systems that are better than Windows and Mac OS, so again, I don't see how you get more with a Mac.

Yesterday, a friend's friend and I got into a t-shirt conversation when he almost spilled his Shirley temple drink on his tees and blurted, "Fuck! I almost spilled on my $100 shirt." I was caught off-guard since I thought I would have at least notice a shirt costing that much. It was a plain white tee embroidered -I think-- with green colored frog in the front running through its left side.

I looked at the shirt, this time a bit more carefully, and thought it was "cheesy." Ask to feel the material, then thought, "wow this is no better than the $7.00 Hanes white tees!"

Brands are a tricky thing. Get a cool group of people to buy it, which to me in the PC and MAC debate, would be the "artists" i.e., website designer, flash developers, video and picture editors and so forth, then expect an avalanche of people buying the same product for reasons less about function and cost effectiveness, but more about feelings, maybe even of attachment.

I have seen a slew of MAC products that don't warrant its hefty price tag and amazed how it still sells despite just on the opposite end (in Bestbuy) one can get pretty much the same thing for much less, or much more for the same price.

The thing is, if you know how to manage your system (i.e. computer) stability shouldn't be an issue. If you have the weaker graphic card, then don't set your resolution to its max, and play graphic intense games, if your computer has limited memory, try not to open multiple programs at the same time; otherwise, your computer would be crashing like crazy or halt to a crawl.

Also, try not to install hardware from unproven/shady manufacturers who don't even write their own drivers.

You can save a lot of money by practicing common sense, and not be awed, like a friend's friend , by its mere brand name.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

No idea what a hotrodder is!

Agreed completely on wanting our machines to do what we want when we want it, which is why I would never buy a Mac.

Completely disagree you get more for your money with a Mac. You get almost exactly the same hardware as you do with a PC but you pay a huge premium for it having an Apple badge. You get a better OS than Windows, no doubt, but again, you can get free operating systems that are better than Windows and Mac OS, so again, I don't see how you get more with a Mac.

The matter of trust is genuinely and interesting one. What is it you trust? That it won't crash?

Which free operating systems would those be, York? Can you name at least five and explain exactly why they're better?

I personally get and got more for my money with my Mac. After using them since their start way back in 1984 and living with their evolution up until now, I can definitely say that I'm getting more for my money.

 

[Liar]

I can't type worth a shit on those "chicklet" keyboards. That's why I don't own a laptop, Liar.

I'm typing this on one of those tiny little netbooks thingys. Tkaes thrice the time than with a normal 'puter. It's designed for people with toothpick fingers. Bleargh.

 

[York]

Which free operating systems would those be, York? Can you name at least five and explain exactly why they're better?

I personally get and got more for my money with my Mac. After using them since their start way back in 1984 and living with their evolution up until now, I can definitely say that I'm getting more for my money.

Any of over a hundred modern Linux distributions. They're better because there's no hidden secrets, they're free and open source, they're virus free, reliable, support more hardware than any other operating system (this is not an idle boast, Mac supports very little hardware and Windows does not support older hardware very well), they're easier to install than any other OS (no hunting for drivers they're all just there), they have a repository of thousands and thousands of programs you can chose from and just install.

I'm not for one minute saying you can't have a good experience with a Mac or not find it reliable. Saying you get more value from it though is an interesting one. How? More value than what?

I still think that Macs are like designer clothes: they have the cool value, but are no better than alternatives and cost a whole lot more.

Other than that I wouldn't buy anything from Apple because they're a unethical company. That might not be a trendy thing to care about, but I do.

 

[DeeZire]

Completely disagree you get more for your money with a Mac. You get almost exactly the same hardware as you do with a PC but you pay a huge premium for it having an Apple badge. You get a better OS than Windows, no doubt, but again, you can get free operating systems that are better than Windows and Mac OS, so again, I don't see how you get more with a Mac.

The matter of trust is genuinely and interesting one. What is it you trust? That it won't crash?

As a musician, you have to match a hardware audio interface to the hardware and OS of a computer. Working in this environment, the proprietary hardware and OS of Mac machines makes them quite desirable compared to the mishmash of the PC world. (Ask any studio engineer about Vista - and then duck.) There are also maintenance issues, which can be time consuming on a PC, and virtually nonexistent on a Mac.

For many of us it boils down to priorities. My priority is to work with the most transparent and dependable tools available. For others, their priority may be to work with the cheapest tools available, without regard to issues such as dependability or maintenance. Whatever. I don't mind paying extra for a seamless and dependable work environment, but I do have strange priorities, considering that I'm still driving an eighteen year-old car and buying my summer shirts at the Goodwill.

ETA - On the Linux issue - most audio recording software packages and the plugins that complement them are written for a specific OS version and hardware configuration. There are Linux apps available, but they would severely limit the tools available to the studio compared to going with a major OS and hardware platform.