Paying to Post

[xelliebabex]

Nope. I'm only here because it's free and anonymous. I would not be associating my banking, PayPal, etc. with the site, and I wouldn't jump through the hoops necessary to post a couple of stories for my own entertainment.

Like patientlee I think you will find most professionals who have to have regular background checks to remain employed in their chosen field would say no to associating their financial details with a site promoting erotica or as others so succinctly put it "porn". These would include teachers and anyone who works directly with minors, police, fire, ambulance officers and hospital workers to name a few.

Not surprisingly a lot of those professionals enjoy the anonymous outlet here. Including me. So I will just give you a blanket "No" to all your questions and agree with Pilot and Slyc's earlier remarks.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Fees wont deter inferior and shoddy goods.

But a fee for a competent review might be good. That is, for a fee, Laurel or a designated editor could autopsy your story before it debuts, and give you the choice to post it or toss it.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

What are you, nuts?

 

[ishtat]

Thank you for your responses to the questions. My favourite was Pilots at post 14 (I think), where he suggests that my questions are pontificating - he then makes 11 of the first 25 (almost 50%) replies to the thread!

 

[StrangeLife]

Nope. I'm only here because it's free and anonymous. I would not be associating my banking, PayPal, etc. with the site, and I wouldn't jump through the hoops necessary to post a couple of stories for my own entertainment.

Exactly. It's not about the money - handing over a few $$$ wouldn't kill anybody - but all about convenience.

 

[PennLady]

Exactly. It's not about the money - handing over a few $$$ wouldn't kill anybody - but all about convenience.

It would be about the money to an extent. If it cost me $5 per post, then my long stories would cost me $50-$60. I can't do that, or I'd at least feel like I shouldn't, so no, I wouldn't do it either. I agree with patientlee, though, and you about convenience; I wouldn't want to hook anything up to my credit card, paypal, whatever.

 

[sr71plt]

Thank you for your responses to the questions. My favourite was Pilots at post 14 (I think), where he suggests that my questions are pontificating - he then makes 11 of the first 25 (almost 50%) replies to the thread!

Those were my favorites too, because I think they skewered you effectively on this issue.

Planning on actually becoming a Literotica author?

 

[lovecraft68]

It would be about the money to an extent. If it cost me $5 per post, then my long stories would cost me $50-$60. I can't do that, or I'd at least feel like I shouldn't, so no, I wouldn't do it either. I agree with patientlee, though, and you about convenience; I wouldn't want to hook anything up to my credit card, paypal, whatever.

I didn't think of this.

In those terms my SWB series would have cost me $260

 

[soflabbwlvr]

It would be about the money to an extent. If it cost me $5 per post, then my long stories would cost me $50-$60. I can't do that, or I'd at least feel like I shouldn't, so no, I wouldn't do it either. I agree with patientlee, though, and you about convenience; I wouldn't want to hook anything up to my credit card, paypal, whatever.

I didn't think of this.

In those terms my SWB series would have cost me $260

I think most authors would leave, and those that stuck around would post all chapters as one submission with chapter headings in the appropriate places.

That would solve the matter of multiple chapters from the same story clogging the top spots on the all-time lists.

It would also cut comments to a trickle.

 

[StrangeLife]

I didn't think of this.

In those terms my SWB series would have cost me $260

There would probably be a bulk discount for the more prolific writers...

 

[lovecraft68]

I think most authors would leave, and those that stuck around would post all chapters as one submission with chapter headings in the appropriate places.

That would solve the matter of multiple chapters from the same story clogging the top spots on the all-time lists.

It would also cut comments to a trickle.

My series was 930k that would be about a 200+ lit page story. Now that would be getting my $5 worth!

 

[lovecraft68]

There would probably be a bulk discount for the more prolific writers...

It would certainly cut down the number of very short stories. People who do 2k chapters would be piling a few of them into one long chapter at that rate

 

[Bramblethorn]

Is that "not really" mean you wouldn't pay or that this would then mark you as cheap? I'm hoping it was your response to both the question and the slam.

I'm cheap... like a free puppy. It's the maintenance that's expensive

 

[ScouriesWorld]

4 Would Laurel and Manu be treated with a little more respect if authors had to pay for their spot. (The all too regular abuse of Laurel in particular, really irritates me)

The reality is that LAUREL and MANU have been treated unbelievably gently by the authors of the site and specifically AHers.

Outside of the boss, ace at times, the late and lamented freddie and very polite posts from darkboy, no one has had the balls to stand up and express their honest opinions about the problems on this site.

Annual awards? Do they still exist?
Monthly contests?
Vote decided contests in which you can turn off voting?
The FAQ?
What is a view?
Rewarding of lapdogs?
"Ask an author what they'd like to see on the site? Why would we", they say smugly.

In this discussion ace is correct and the oily's of our world are wrong.

We at ScouriesWorld are delighted at this new more activist and involved LAUREL and hope she continues to wade into the various issues being raised.

We now live in a world where changes can come in a blink of an eye, where #1 companies (and internet sites) can fall calamitously in months if not weeks. MANU + LAUREL may be working tirelessly to improve the site but doing it without any consultation or participation from the users of the site is the worst possible thing they could do.

What in fact L+M need are more authors willing to stand up and state honest opinions!​

 

[TxRad]

Scouries, you don't have the brains, god gave a goose. What you know about running a website would fit in a thimble and still leave room for several fingers.

 

[sr71plt]

Oh, come on , TxRad. Knowing that you can't maintain--and haven't maintained--a couple of contests (the monthlies and the annual "bests") for years and could just announce the obvious--that they are dead--that the volunteer editor's program is grossly misleading and damaging to writers seeking assistance and could just be dropped and let the deals be negotiated on the editors' forum, and either responding to the e-mail addresses to admin scattered about the Web site, or erasing the references, has just about zero to do with the technical needs of running a Web site. It has more to do with a lack of concern for the users.

 

[lovecraft68]

I'll go along with Pilot's post, but want to amend the word concern to consideration, I think it fits better.

 

[TxRad]

Lets see, Laurel spends most of the day reading or at the very least skimming somewhere around a hundred stories a day. The site is not set up to be a cash cow by a long shot. Manu is trying to upgrade and unscramble a lot of the problem areas of the site. I figure one or the other or both work on top of everything else.

I don't see a lot of time there for arguing with a dozen people about loose ends. Yeah, they would be nice to fix but they are not critical.

From what i read when I first got here, this site started out so Laurel could read stories and her friends and writers as a whole had a place to post stories. A labor of love shall we say. Now it is a J.O.B. and a bunch around here that have no idea of how something like this works run on and on like a broken record.

Hold a dialog? Why? That's my opinion for what its worth. So keep up the good work folks

 

[sr71plt]

Well, that don't make a lick of sense, TxRad.

Declaring programs dead takes one announcement and than fagetaboutit. And it saves a bunch of time answering questions on why these programs aren't working. The kicker here, is that it isn't Laurel's time that's been wasted answering those questions.

When all else fails, try common sense.

 

[TxRad]

Well, that don't make a lick of sense, TxRad.

Declaring programs dead takes one announcement and than fagetaboutit. And it saves a bunch of time answering questions on why these programs aren't working. The kicker here, is that it isn't Laurel's time that's been wasted answering those questions.

When all else fails, try common sense.

Maybe they are not dead but just shelved for a period of time.

 

[sr71plt]

Maybe they are not dead but just shelved for a period of time.

You keep right on thinking that, TxRad. In the meantime they're deader than a doorknob and leaving an impression on the condition of this Web site (and causing confusion and prompting the users to carry the bucket on explanations). And they are just a few of nonfunctional bits and pieces around here--ones that were nonfunctional and the administrators had been informed of before the last time they gave us bells and whistles that, although nice to have in the most part, had nothing to do with what the users were asking for on the basis of the complaints THEY had been fielding on this forum.

Sorry, but you look silly wearing those blinders.

The fact is that the users are just ignored--in my day of exchanges with Laurel she showed no evidence of even knowing what the users are asking for and complaining about--or of caring. All she did was exhibit brinkmanship and misrepresent what I was posting. I have no confidence that the wonderful new world of some unknown future that has been waved in front of us will have anything to do with cleaning up the site either. That some have jumped on them as some sort of candy they are being promised makes them look like lemmings.

Again, I'll live with the "take it or leave" approach because the advantages outweigh the disadvantages, but I have no intention of pretending and looking as silly as you do in your posts on this. And I continue to hold that this should be a symbiotic relationship. This Web site is a valuable asset and it's built on the product freely provided by the writers. This is not a one-sided favors situation.

Of course some of the things Scouries mentions are nonevents.

 

[lovecraft68]

Lets see, Laurel spends most of the day reading or at the very least skimming somewhere around a hundred stories a day. The site is not set up to be a cash cow by a long shot. Manu is trying to upgrade and unscramble a lot of the problem areas of the site. I figure one or the other or both work on top of everything else.

I don't see a lot of time there for arguing with a dozen people about loose ends. Yeah, they would be nice to fix but they are not critical.

From what i read when I first got here, this site started out so Laurel could read stories and her friends and writers as a whole had a place to post stories. A labor of love shall we say. Now it is a J.O.B. and a bunch around here that have no idea of how something like this works run on and on like a broken record.

Hold a dialog? Why? That's my opinion for what its worth. So keep up the good work folks

Who needs to argue?

"To all author's: Due to...... the monthly contests as well as the annual contests have been cancelled.

Whew!

 

[TxRad]

I love the selective reading here.

 

[_Lynn_]

Maybe they are not dead but just shelved for a period of time.

A period of time equals what? The volunteer editors list hasn't worked in years.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

It would certainly cut down the number of very short stories. People who do 2k chapters would be piling a few of them into one long chapter at that rate

Go fuck yourself.