Patriotism....

[BotanyBoy]

And anything other than PURE HATRED of the USA is considered "NATIONALISM!!"

What's so bad about either??

Why does the left think not hating the USA is the height of evil??

 

[Heathers_Front]

Why do right wing trolls use ascription so much before fucking their cousins?

 

[HisArpy]

And anything other than PURE HATRED of the USA is considered "NATIONALISM!!"

What's so bad about either??

Why does the left think not hating the USA is the height of evil??

The problem is social media. It allows those who can barely figure out how to cook Ramen noodles without burning to voice their thoughts and have others believe them.

These people have no clue what true patriotism is. Nor do they, or their followers, care.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Says the troll who's engaging in ascription LOL

Why can't left wing trolls ever answer the question???

We know why

 

[BotanyBoy]

The problem is social media. It allows those who can barely figure out how to cook Ramen noodles without burning to voice their thoughts and have others believe them.

These people have no clue what true patriotism is. Nor do they, or their followers, care.

Many seem to think that true patriotism is hatred for your country and attempting to turn it into the exact opposite of everything it's ever been or hoped to be.

And not a one of them will deny it, because they know the next question is "So why are you cheerleading socialism, trashing civil rights and identitarianism. " for which they had NO answer.

 

[Heathers_Front]

Says the troll who's engaging in ascription LOL

Why can't left wing trolls ever answer the question???

We know why

I was replying in kind, ascriptiony bot.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I was replying in kind, ascriptiony bot.

You were hollering like a hit dog.

Back in your corner.

 

[Heathers_Front]

You were hollering like a hit dog.

Back in your corner.

Cant take your own medicine, victimy bot?

 

[HisArpy]

Many seem to think that true patriotism is hatred for your country and attempting to turn it into the exact opposite of everything it's ever been or hoped to be.

And not a one of them will deny it, because they know the next question is "So why are you cheerleading socialism, trashing civil rights and identitarianism. " for which they had NO answer.

The 1 thing patriotism is not, is lockstep adherence. My idea of what "liberty" means isn't necessarily the exact same thing as what another may believe it means. However, there is a common thing that all patriots have, it's the understanding that when it comes time to stand up and show up, they get to their feet and muster.

 

[Heathers_Front]

The 1 thing patriotism is not, is lockstep adherence. My idea of what "liberty" means isn't necessarily the exact same thing as what another may believe it means. However, there is a common thing that all patriots have, it's the understanding that when it comes time to stand up and show up, they get to their feet and muster.

Wrong answer, tim foil.

It needed to be more along the lines of commie mao supporters want everyone to have healthcare so we can end up like Venezuela.

Try again.

 

[Rightguide]

And anything other than PURE HATRED of the USA is considered "NATIONALISM!!"

What's so bad about either??

Why does the left think not hating the USA is the height of evil??

Because they do, and will not accommodate Americans who don't. As Americans, When it comes to Socialists and Socialism, we should understand both it and them to be the epitome of universal evil. They have murdered tens of millions of people, taken their property, their everything. If we value our freedom we shouldn't give an inch of slack to any socialist extolling its virtues and pretending it and they aren't evil. They are the antithesis of all things American. The time for playing nice with these enemies to our way of life is over. They need to be roundly ridiculed and defeated.

 

[Heathers_Front]

Because they do, and will not accommodate Americans who don't. As Americans, When it comes to Socialists and Socialism, we should understand both it and them to be the epitome of universal evil. They have murdered tens of millions of people, taken their property, their everything. If we value our freedom we shouldn't give an inch of slack to any socialist extolling its virtues and pretending it and they aren't evil. They are the antithesis of all things American. The time for playing nice with these enemies to our way of life is over. They need to be roundly ridiculed and defeated.

Lmao...ok boomer.

 

[BotanyBoy]

The 1 thing patriotism is not, is lockstep adherence. My idea of what "liberty" means isn't necessarily the exact same thing as what another may believe it means. However, there is a common thing that all patriots have, it's the understanding that when it comes time to stand up and show up, they get to their feet and muster.

No it's not...but it can't also be in radical opposition.

I.E. the "progressive" idea that totalitarian stat control over both the economy and social interactions is freedom!!

LOL....no, that shit is Rob level dishonest.

Because they do, and will not accommodate Americans who don't. As Americans, When it comes to Socialists and Socialism, we should understand both it and them to be the epitome of universal evil. They have murdered tens of millions of people, taken their property, their everything. If we value our freedom we shouldn't give an inch of slack to any socialist extolling its virtues and pretending it and they aren't evil. They are the antithesis of all things American. The time for playing nice with these enemies to our way of life is over. They need to be roundly ridiculed and defeated.

Talking to numbers of them here, they don't see anything more American than the hammer and sickle. Just as Rob, it's totally patriotic and there is nothing more American than an iron fisted government taking everyones shit. As long as the goal is social/economic equity (equal outcomes for all) the ends justify any means necessary.

There is no such thing as too far left for any of them.

 

[bigsly]

Hark!

These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. - Thomas Paine, December 23, 1776

Bernie's Coming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A2eet1bttY

 

[silver gurl]

Because people on the outside have this idea that patriotism is someone wearing the American Flag as pajamas, as they walk into Walmart, to purchase their gun, while sporting a MEGA hat. A Patriot.

Personally, I like the Tom Brady Patriot...but that is a different story.

 

[Conager]

Worse, is when the attempt to redefine patriotism as championing a version of America that is antithetical to the constitution as written and amended without proposing that it be amended to reflect their desires.

These are the people that refer to the Constitution as a living, breathing document written by old man who couldn't see our day without noticing that there are two different methods to change the document to reflect what they want America to be.

They don't pledge allegiance to the Republic for which the flag stands, they pledge allegiance to their own ideological aims as if that's the same thing.

These are the same people who point to their strength in numbers as if it means anything in a Republic founded specifically to keep people like them from overwhelming our nation of laws with popular support of lawlessness.

 

[phrodeau]

So we're supposed to grab the flag with our arms, and when the National Anthem plays, act like we're conducting a band?

 

[Conager]

Says the troll who's engaging in ascription LOL

Why can't left wing trolls ever answer the question???

We know why

Rob haw always had this weird sense that refereeing his own debates means something. He's always charging logical fallacies which he misapplies, or crying ascription where there is none.

 

[Conager]

So we're supposed to grab the flag with our arms, and when the National Anthem plays, act like we're conducting a band?

Yes. That is exactly what you should gather from the above discussion on patriotism.

Now run along and go practice!

 

[icanhelp1]

Worse, is when the attempt to redefine patriotism as championing a version of America that is antithetical to the constitution as written and amended without proposing that it be amended to reflect their desires.

These are the people that refer to the Constitution as a living, breathing document written by old man who couldn't see our day without noticing that there are two different methods to change the document to reflect what they want America to be.

They don't pledge allegiance to the Republic for which the flag stands, they pledge allegiance to their own ideological aims as if that's the same thing.

These are the same people who point to their strength in numbers as if it means anything in a Republic founded specifically to keep people like them from overwhelming our nation of laws with popular support of lawlessness.

Well, there's "we the people " and then there's " I the entitled "

 

[bigsly]

American patriotism is inherent understanding, reverence and loyalty to the revolutionary political ideology which founded America, as delcared, not as any one wishes to compose it themselves.

This revolutionary political ideology consists of three uncompromising roots:

1. acknowledgement and reverence for "nature's laws and of nature's God"

2. inherent love for inalienable individual liberty

3. desire for government that's constituted first to guarantee and protect #1 and #2, and if it doesn't, it's abolished

Many are called but few are chosen applies to wannabe American patriots, too. Many dig #3, and a lot can eventually acknowledge the "nature's laws" part, but most disqualify themselves because they refuse to acknowledge, let alone revere, "nature's God". Not obeying #1 as immutable code logically invalidates #2's existence, too, for "inalienable", as declared, means naturally created and established by a Higher Power over any man's feeling or government's rule.

Thus, instead of inherently grokking the natural, inalienable superiority of actual American patriot political ideology, wannabe's are simply left with perpetually debating and arguing with others who basically share their same root disbelief, ensuring a endless loop of irrelevantness about one's feelings vs. others' feelings.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Worse, is when the attempt to redefine patriotism as championing a version of America that is antithetical to the constitution as written and amended without proposing that it be amended to reflect their desires.

These are the people that refer to the Constitution as a living, breathing document written by old man who couldn't see our day without noticing that there are two different methods to change the document to reflect what they want America to be.

They don't pledge allegiance to the Republic for which the flag stands, they pledge allegiance to their own ideological aims as if that's the same thing.

These are the same people who point to their strength in numbers as if it means anything in a Republic founded specifically to keep people like them from overwhelming our nation of laws with popular support of lawlessness.

They won't even do it to their own states......but they want to do it federally.

So we're supposed to grab the flag with our arms, and when the National Anthem plays, act like we're conducting a band?

That might be a good start to get you in the spirit.

But if the left just stopped regarding the country with such distain and disgust, and demonizing any sort of love for it and any support for it's existence as a nation as NATIONALISM!!! as if that's a bad thing.

No longer supporting radically authoritarian political positions/ideals and ideologies that are antithetical to the ones the USA was founded/built upon, like individual rights, including private property, the pursuit of happiness etc. is more advanced but also a good thing to try.

 

[Conager]

Well, there's "we the people " and then there's " I the entitled "

Even that, they get wrong. They misconstrue "We, the people" to mean that collectivism has any place in our constitutional republic. That, if they can garner enough support for their collective group, they can get what they feel.entitled to.

I'm fairly certain that Barack Hussein Obama did not himself pen these words,* but he was entirely correct when he opined that,

The Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. It says what the states can't do to you. Says what the federal government can't do to you but doesn't say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf.

That was not an accident; rather, it was by design.

*He was hired as an "historic" guest lecturer on Constitutional Law. What the job consisted of was reading the lecture notes of an actual ConLaw professor from a teleprompter to the class. Turned out to be great career training. The teleprompter that is, not the words displayed for him.

 

[icanhelp1]

They won't even do it to their own states......but they want to do it federally.



That might be a good start to get you in the spirit.

But if the left just stopped regarding the country with such distain and disgust, and demonizing any sort of love for it and any support for it's existence as a nation as NATIONALISM!!! as if that's a bad thing.

No longer supporting radically authoritarian political positions/ideals and ideologies that are antithetical to the ones the USA was founded/built upon, like individual rights, including private property, the pursuit of happiness etc. is more advanced but also a good thing to try.

"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

"SECURE THE BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY TO OURSELVES AND OUR POSTERITY"

 

[BotanyBoy]

"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

"SECURE THE BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY TO OURSELVES AND OUR POSTERITY"

See the thing is "progressives" think "liberty" means shit canning civil rights, having the government seize the means of production and controlling the distribution of goods and services.

And of course sending all dissenters and their families to "re-education" camps......aka a ditch out in the woods.