Palin Worrying about her future . . . without McCain

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Palin's 'going rogue,' McCain aide says

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* Sources say there is brewing tension between McCain aides and Palin
* Palin aide says she is trying to take control of her message
* "She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone," says a McCain adviser
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From Dana Bash, Peter Hamby and John King CNN
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ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico (CNN) -- With 10 days until Election Day, long-brewing tensions between GOP vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin and key aides to Sen. John McCain have become so intense, they are spilling out in public, sources say.
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin speaks at a rally in Sioux City, Iowa, on Saturday.

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin speaks at a rally in Sioux City, Iowa, on Saturday.

Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue."

A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to "bust free" of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged roll-out.

McCain sources say Palin has gone off-message several times, and they privately wonder whether the incidents were deliberate. They cited an instance in which she labeled robocalls -- recorded messages often used to attack a candidate's opponent -- "irritating" even as the campaign defended their use. Also, they pointed to her telling reporters she disagreed with the campaign's decision to pull out of Michigan.

A second McCain source says she appears to be looking out for herself more than the McCain campaign.

"She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone," said this McCain adviser. "She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else.

"Also, she is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party. Remember: Divas trust only unto themselves, as they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom."

A Palin associate defended her, saying that she is "not good at process questions" and that her comments on Michigan and the robocalls were answers to process questions.
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But this Palin source acknowledged that Palin is trying to take more control of her message, pointing to last week's impromptu news conference on a Colorado tarmac.

Tracey Schmitt, Palin's press secretary, was urgently called over after Palin wandered over to the press and started talking. Schmitt tried several times to end the unscheduled session.

"We acknowledge that perhaps she should have been out there doing more," a different Palin adviser recently said, arguing that "it's not fair to judge her off one or two sound bites" from the network interviews.

The Politico reported Saturday on Palin's frustration, specifically with McCain advisers Nicolle Wallace and Steve Schmidt. They helped decide to limit Palin's initial press contact to high-profile interviews with Charlie Gibson of ABC and Katie Couric of CBS, which all McCain sources admit were highly damaging.

In response, Wallace e-mailed CNN the same quote she gave the Politico: "If people want to throw me under the bus, my personal belief is that the most honorable thing to do is to lie there."

But two sources, one Palin associate and one McCain adviser, defended the decision to keep her press interaction limited after she was picked, both saying flatly that she was not ready and that the missteps could have been a lot worse.

They insisted that she needed time to be briefed on national and international issues and on McCain's record.

"Her lack of fundamental understanding of some key issues was dramatic," said another McCain source with direct knowledge of the process to prepare Palin after she was picked. The source said it was probably the "hardest" to get her "up to speed than any candidate in history."

Schmitt came to the back of the plane Saturday to deliver a statement to traveling reporters: "Unnamed sources with their own agenda will say what they want, but from Gov. Palin down, we have one agenda, and that's to win on Election Day."

Yet another senior McCain adviser lamented the public recriminations.

"This is what happens with a campaign that's behind; it brings out the worst in people, finger-pointing and scapegoating," this senior adviser said.

This adviser also decried the double standard, noting that Democratic nominee Sen. Barack Obama's running mate, Sen. Joe Biden, has gone off the reservation as well, most recently by telling donors at a fundraiser that America's enemies will try to "test" Obama.

Tensions like those within the McCain-Palin campaign are not unusual; vice presidential candidates also have a history of butting heads with the top of the ticket.

John Edwards and his inner circle repeatedly questioned Sen. John Kerry's strategy in 2004, and Kerry loyalists repeatedly aired in public their view that Edwards would not play the traditional attack dog role with relish because he wanted to protect his future political interests.

Even in a winning campaign like Bill Clinton's, some of Al Gore's aides in 1992 and again in 1996 questioned how Gore was being scheduled for campaign events.

Jack Kemp's aides distrusted the Bob Dole camp and vice versa, and Dan Quayle loyalists had a list of gripes remarkably similar to those now being aired by Gov. Palin's aides.

With the presidential race in its final days and polls suggesting that McCain's chances of pulling out a win are growing slim, Palin may be looking after her own future.

"She's no longer playing for 2008; she's playing 2012," Democratic pollster Peter Hart said. "And the difficulty is, when she went on 'Saturday Night Live,' she became a reinforcement of her caricature. She never allowed herself to be vetted, and at the end of the day, voters turned against her both in terms of qualifications and personally.
 
It is all a conspiracy you poor little helpless bitch of the new world order of Jewish Templar Knights.
 
Reading that, I can almost envision a split in the GOP with her leading the charge of the fundy whackjobs. In 2012 she could nab Pat Robertson as a running mate--since he thinks she's the best thing since the blow-up doll. She'll surround herself with an impressive array of advisors: James Dobson, Rick Santorum, Bill Frist, Elizabeth Hasselbeck and, of course, Karl Rove.

Downside, the centrist Republicans might regain some credibility and become viable again.
 
Reading that, I can almost envision a split in the GOP with her leading the charge of the fundy whackjobs. In 2012 she could nab Pat Robertson as a running mate--since he thinks she's the best thing since the blow-up doll. She'll surround herself with an impressive array of advisors: James Dobson, Rick Santorum, Bill Frist, Elizabeth Hasselbeck and, of course, Karl Rove.

Downside, the centrist Republicans might regain some credibility and become viable again.

What do you mean "almost"? I think you just did.
 
Well, almost in the sense that it's pretty unlikely to happen. But I do think she's developed a bit of a messiah complex.

That seems to be going around these days.

I could get rid of it too if you assholes would just unquestionably accept me as your absolute ruler!
 
That seems to be going around these days.

I could get rid of it too if you assholes would just unquestionably accept me as your absolute ruler!

You have to be thoroughly vetted first...and it's going to take more than one meeting.
 
It's interesting but not surprising that there is conflict within the ticket.

When you are down in the polls, the fingerpointing usually starts.

What is surprising is that it is Palin who is questioning how she was handled. She was a bad pick for him to make and he's paying the piper for it.
 
It's interesting but not surprising that there is conflict within the ticket.

When you are down in the polls, the fingerpointing usually starts.

What is surprising is that it is Palin who is questioning how she was handled. She was a bad pick for him to make and he's paying the piper for it.

Actually, I think it's because of the last thing that you see finger pointing. Palin is incredibly ambitious - for no reason apparently than simple unbridled ambition and desire.

She knows that her favorability has tanked over the last few months. She knows that so many op-ed pages and Republicans are pointing the finger at her selection as McCain's downfall.

Therefore, she has to start shaping her own message so she isn't seen as an albatross on the 2008 GOP ticket. In order to do so, she says she was "rolled out" wrong, the press strategy was wrong, the way they handled her was wrong, yadda yadda yadda. It's the only way to push back against the unfavorability - you didn't really disfavor me, you disafavored what the McCain campaign's handling did to me and how it erroneously shaped my message and who I am.
 
Actually, I think it's because of the last thing that you see finger pointing. Palin is incredibly ambitious - for no reason apparently than simple unbridled ambition and desire.

She knows that her favorability has tanked over the last few months. She knows that so many op-ed pages and Republicans are pointing the finger at her selection as McCain's downfall.

Therefore, she has to start shaping her own message so she isn't seen as an albatross on the 2008 GOP ticket. In order to do so, she says she was "rolled out" wrong, the press strategy was wrong, the way they handled her was wrong, yadda yadda yadda. It's the only way to push back against the unfavorability - you didn't really disfavor me, you disafavored what the McCain campaign's handling did to me and how it erroneously shaped my message and who I am.

No disagreement here. I just figured it would come after the election if they lose.
 
No disagreement here. I just figured it would come after the election if they lose.

As an aside to this thread, the Anchorage Daily News endorsed Obama yesterday.

Gotta hurt when the major newspaper in your state supports the other guy - especially when it's the first time Alaska has had any politician bullet to the top like this.
 
As an aside to this thread, the Anchorage Daily News endorsed Obama yesterday.

Gotta hurt when the major newspaper in your state supports the other guy - especially when it's the first time Alaska has had any politician bullet to the top like this.

would you want her to be your poster child?
 
As an aside to this thread, the Anchorage Daily News endorsed Obama yesterday.

Gotta hurt when the major newspaper in your state supports the other guy - especially when it's the first time Alaska has had any politician bullet to the top like this.


That's a big Ouch.
 
A nice speculation piece and you'all take it and run with it. Here's the kicker:

With the presidential race in its final days and polls suggesting that McCain's chances of pulling out a win are growing slim, Palin may be looking after her own future.

Journalism at it's finest. The endorsement of a newspaper is not worth the paper it's printed on.
 
As an aside to this thread, the Anchorage Daily News endorsed Obama yesterday.

Gotta hurt when the major newspaper in your state supports the other guy - especially when it's the first time Alaska has had any politician bullet to the top like this.

The media is liberal. What a surprise.
 
A nice speculation piece and you'all take it and run with it. Here's the kicker:

With the presidential race in its final days and polls suggesting that McCain's chances of pulling out a win are growing slim, Palin may be looking after her own future.

Journalism at it's finest. The endorsement of a newspaper is not worth the paper it's printed on.

sort of like speculating on weapons of mass destruction, eh?
 
sort of like speculating on weapons of mass destruction, eh?

The one's in Syria?

Here's the meat of your article:

advisers have suggested to CNN

they privately wonder

she appears to be looking out for herself

At no point in the article does it make the connection that Palin is at odds with McCain, just disgruntled aides running a poor champaign.
 
The one's in Syria?

Here's the meat of your article:

advisers have suggested to CNN

they privately wonder

she appears to be looking out for herself

At no point in the article does it make the connection that Palin is at odds with McCain, just disgruntled aides running a poor champaign.

funny how that has never been confirmed. it's speculation and rumormongering.

and what's the big deal in the case at hand? it's clearly labeled as speculation, not fact.

so what?

she's a public figure. she's fair game. and it's fair speculation.

why would mccain insiders cast such an unflattering light on her?
 
funny how that has never been confirmed. it's speculation and rumormongering.

and what's the big deal in the case at hand? it's clearly labeled as speculation, not fact.

so what?

she's a public figure. she's fair game. and it's fair speculation.

why would mccain insiders cast such an unflattering light on her?

She refuses to regurgitate the words they are putting in her mouth. It's what leaders do.
 
She refuses to regurgitate the words they are putting in her mouth. It's what leaders do.

so why did she accept a subordinate position, then?

do leaders buck the chain in command to undermine the message?
 
Bert,

Do you parse all Fox stories this way? Because Fox is known for the type of innuendo/insinuation that you are decrying. It's truly their mantle.
 
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