Pain

Colleen Thomas

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Anyone eve thing about it? About what a strange thing it is? How it can be both hero and villan?

I've been thinking a lot about pain, these last few days. It's sort of funny, how you can't remember pain. You can remember you were hurt, or that something felt awful, but you can't remember the pain. Just that you had some.

Pain is a warning sign. A warning that something is wong. And it can be very useful, in that role. Who here hasn't had a burned finger? Or started slapping ants when they begin to sting you? In it's place, pain is actually good. It often saves you from worse injury.

By and large, your whole body works on negative feedback loops. If you don't have enough insulin in your blood for example, your pancreas hears about it and pumps some out, when the food has been digested, it stops. Almost everything is a negative loop. Positive feedback loops are mostly pathological.

Evver wonder what would happen, if the pain itself, became part of the loop? And the loop was positive? So that the pain, began to increase as your body tried to wearn you the pain itself was bad for you? And you started to throw up, because it hurt so much, but that only served to dehydrate you and thus, you got more pain warning of that ill. And further along, the pain was so awful, you couldn't sleep, but the lack of sleep was bad and your body tried to warn you of that with more pain? And alow presure system settled on your area and refused to budge, so your head, now exploding tried to warn you of that adding more pain. Ever wondered what that would feel like?

If you have, be you my most beloved freind or my worst enemy, I hope all you ever have to do is wonder.

Black depression, comes with the pain. An understandable side effect. But one that becomes horrendous in it's own right, when thepain keeps you from keeping down your anti-depressants. And of course, going off them cold turkey has some bad side efects of it's own, the mental being really nasty, like suicidal thoughts and the like. But one that is common is...You guessed it. A headache.

Ever try to write pain into one of your stories? Consider the word choice really carefully? It's funny, but you can't describe it, because you can't remember it. So we end up using words that are far to vauge, like hurt or words that describe the kind of pain, like shooting, or throbbing, or words that describe the extent, like agony and torment. Yet we never can describe the pain, because we can't remember it. Even as we know that, it dosen't matter, because our readers have felt pain before and they can't remember it either.

I've ben away and apparently some were worried and to that few I apologize sincerely for causing you to worry. I will try to respond to emails and mal and threads tomorrow. tonight, I am alonw with my pain and though it is growing less, it still gnaws at what's left of my sanity.

Oblivion. It sounds damned good about now.
 
I'm sorry you're hurting baby and I hope it gets better soon...
 
Oh, Colly.

We've all been thinking of you. Worried about you. Thank you for taking time to reassure us.

I hope you feel better soon. Inadequate, I know, but it's all I can say.

:rose:
 
Oh, sweets, my heart goes out to you. I hope you start feeling better very, very soon. :rose: :rose: :rose:
 
So sorry, Colly.

I understand about the depression part, and that's something that I don't wish on anyone. I get migraines from time to time, though I'm not sure mine are as bad as some. Sometimes, it's not pain so much as incapacitating vertigo - if I move, I vomit. They definitely have something to do with pressure changes, though - I get them when I fly sometimes. Last Friday, I burnt the roof of my mouth with a bite of pizza, and it was so bad I was in bed most of the weekend with a splitting headache to go with the burnt mouth, and missed work Monday. Today it finally seems to be getting back to something near normal, as long as I only chew on one side. :eek:

You're right, though, about pain being blocked from memory. That explains a good deal about population increases, for one thing. :) Also, my habitual consumption of a little too much wine. :eek:

When you had me on ignore, back in the dark ages, I wrote to you about Neurontin. It's an anti-convulsant, but it also has more recent indications for nerve pain, such as that associated with shingles. It's generic is gabapentin, and I think it's on generic availability now, so it's pretty cheap. Also, the side-effect profile is not bad at all. It's metabolized through kidneys, not the liver, so it doesn't have the long half-life that so many drugs do. It may be worth a shot if you haven't tried it. :rose:
 
We're here Colly. Whatever that might mean to you or not mean to you - you are Loveds so much :rose: :heart: :kiss:
 
Dear girl, I empathise as much as I am able. The last 10 days have given me an insight into pain deeper than I've ever had before, but I don't think anyone can ever experience or understand another's pain.

You're in our thoughts as always, and sending our deepfelt hope that you get through the tunnel and out the other side sometime soon.

:heart: :kiss: :heart:
 
I put my pain, physical and emotional into my writings...its a great motivator sometimes.

Glad to see you are alive. :kiss: :heart: :rose:
 
dont know what ta say beautiful. If i could take it all away i would.

Miss you :heart:
 
Colleen Thomas said:
Black depression, comes with the pain.

Amen. Although I can't compare my experience to yours, it does reach a point where death is not feared, but welcomed as way to end the cycle.

I could have my pain surgically removed. Can't do that with your head, though.

:rose: Love you, beautiful. If there is anything I can do to help, please feel free to ask!
 
*HUGS*

God, it's good to hear from you, Colleen.

But I'm so sorry that you're in such pain and such a dark place. Sending all the healing thoughts I can, and a bit more your way.
 
I get migraines and it seems that my pain is my anchor. Yes, the anchor is sitting directly on and piercing through my feet to achor me, but it has its gifts.

I see the world differently because of my time spent in pain. You can't bring that experience back up into the light any more than you could bring up a handful of magma from the core of the earth.

But when it lifts, I do know the precious gift of a breath without pain, a thought without warp and the absence of the panic that makes you want to chew your own head off.

Feel better.
 
wish i could say i dont know what its like, but i do.
sending you healing vibes and hoping that you'll come through this time swiftly.
:heart:
 
My heart goes out to you. I hope you find some relief soon. :rose: :rose:

I suffer from depression as well as chronic pain and they can be terribly debilitating at times. I've gone the route of medications over the years and found the only relief I got was taking heavy duty narcotics, which only relieved the symptoms temporarily and I found myself wanting more and more. Eventually, they were not an option any more. Sadly, not many folks in the medical field understand how devastating pain can be. Because of the potential for abuse, very few are willing to even prescribe medications that can alleviate pain.

I've always felt I had a very high tolerance to pain, but there are days that I've felt exactly as you described and on those days, the world is truly "black". Life being what it is though, there is not much I can do but live with it, and over the years I've managed to somehow block out some of it, so that I can go on with my daily life, but it's not easy and it can come right back and I begin to dwell on it once again. When that happens, my depression takes over and it becomes more complicated and sometimes even more pain comes about as a result! Ugh! Some days it's hard to distinguish which is causing more "pain", as I truly believe that depression can cause physical symptoms of pain too. This last 10 days have been rainy and damp which also makes my pain much worse.

I so related to your post, and find it difficult to talk to anyone about how I feel, as most people don't understand, and I've never been a complainer and so for the most part, I suffer in silence.

If you ever need someone to talk to, please PM or email me.

Sending warm thoughts and prayers your way. :rose: :rose: :rose:
 
I'm glad to see you and that you are feeling better.... I was very worried.......

:rose: :kiss:
 
Damn. :( So sorry Colly.

I've known that kind of pain once, when the body's reactions to lessen the pain only increase it. And everything I did to shut it out, increased it. The diffeerence was that in my case, I had a timeline. I knew that in a set number of days, it would lessen, be over, and never come back.

And you're right. It's quite impossible to describe.
 
I hope you feel better soon.

I have no idea if it will help, but I've been told repeatedly that hot and spicy foods, or a teaspoon of cayenne cut with honey, helps relieve the pressure and pain in migraines and headaches. I know that a few drops of jalapeno juice will clear my headaches if I can take it the moment the pain starts building.

I hope that that may help you.

Falling
 
Colly,

Never forget you are loved, and that the world is better for you sharing it with the rest of us.

Rumple
 
Colly,

Please do me a favor: Print out a copy of your post and hand it to a trusted friend to read and understand.

Hugs
 
I'm encouraged that you could write that, at least... :eek:

try to take care of yourself... hoping you have someone to take care of you, too...
 
While my own past illnesses (bronchitis, pneumonia, double pneumonia, chicken pox, rosiola) and occasional pains (mostly due to neuropathy in my limbs) are not the same sort as your recent sickness, I can fully empathize with that degree of pain. It can be bad enough to make a really tough person even cry like a baby.

Hugs, Colly. I really hope that your pain and suffering go away, and that you get through it. We are all pulling for you, as you can tell. :rose: Thank you for trusting us with such no doubt difficult revelations about yourself. We care very much for you and want you to recover totally. :heart:

I pray that Asklepios heals you.
 
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