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Christian Wicca: Oxymoron or the Best of Both World?

(book review)

Finally, a how-to guide for practicing Wicca, celebrating the return of the original Christian Trinity: the Father, the Mother, and the Holy Son Jesus. This book is written expressly for Wiccans who wish to walk the spiritual path of earth-based religions, but do not wish to surrender their Judeo-Christian background. Nancy now offers a simple solution to the rapidly emerging ChristoPagan community.

Wicca, the Old Religion, or the religion of the wise, is the fastest growing form of spirituality in the United States. Many modern and eclectic Christians have no problem recognizing Jesus as Lord, but instead have a problem accepting the dogma of the organized church. Seekers are also feeling the absense of the Female aspect of the Divine and wish to re-establish the Goddess in their spirituality.

In the wake of the discoveries of the Nag Hammadi Library, for the first time since 100-300 A.C.E. - the yin of the Christian faith is seeking to restore it's yang! Despite the overwhelming evidence that there is a Divine Mother --- no one has applied this information to Wicca and the Holy Days of the Wheel of the Year. "Christian Wicca: the Trinitarian Tradition" does this very task, outlining the Sabbats, the Esbats to include the Holy Trinity . . . also introducing observances expressly for Jesus, called Kyriats! Blessed Be!!



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Introduction

Christian Wicca is a new path of Christian spirituality and a new tradition of Wicca, often referred to as the modern term for the Old Religion, or “the religion of the wise.” Christian Wicca is the practice of Wicca acknowledging the Christian Godhead as the practitioner’s choice of Deities, recognizing both the male (God) and female (Goddess) aspects of the One Triune God, as well as the promised Solar God (Jesus), Lord and Saviour.

Wicca is the revival of the religion of the wise, recapturing its spirit and practices. This modern practice is based on the old ways of communing with the Divine through Nature, along the lines of the Latin phrase Deus et Natura, meaning “God and Nature.” Originally, this religion did not have a name; it was simply what the people were brought up to believe. It was not called witchcraft with all its negative associations until the Inquisition found it to be a threat to the rise of the new Religion in Rome called Christianity.

The term Wicca is derived from the old Anglo-Saxon word “wicce,” (pronounced “witch-eee”) and there you can see what gave rise to the commonly used word “witch.” “Wicce” meant a practitioner of the Old Religion, as well as reflects the influence of the Old Norse word “vitke,” which meant “a priestess or seer.” The word pagan is from the Latin “paganus,” which means “a country dweller.” “Heathen,” another related term also misinterpreted, which means “one who dwelt on the heath.” The heath would be the plains or flatlands.

The writings and teachings of Gerald Gardner of the New Forest coven in England mark the dawning of Wicca. After the last of the anti-witchcraft laws in England were repealed in 1954, Gardner published his coven’s Book of Shadows along with others believing that the Craft was dying out. He dedicated his life to retrieving lost information about the native religions of Europe. This was a difficult task because most of the old religion was handed down from generation to generation by mouth; keep in mind that most farming cultures could not read or write. Unlike Christianity, there was no “Bible” simply because the modern printing press had not been invented at the time!

This approach of communing with the Divine as the Holy Trinity via the personal spiritual methods of Wicca is the key to the name of this Wiccan tradition - Trinitarian. The definition of Trinitarian Wicca is as an eclectic form of Wicca mixed with various aspects of Christianity, which may differ with each practitioner. These sources of Christianity include the Holy Bible, the Kabbalah, the Apocrypha, Pseudopigrapha, and the Dead Sea Scrolls, especially the Gnostic Gospels.

Not all of the Judeo-Christian books written actually made it into the Holy Bible. For example, the Apocrypha is a generalized term for any spiritual writings that are doubtful of authenticity or of questionable authorship. The Books of the Apocrypha are the fourteen books of the Septuagint, or the Greek version of the Old Testament. Judaism rejects the Apocrypha, as does Protestant Christians, who regard is as non-canonical. However, the Roman Catholic Church fully accepts eleven of the writings into the canonized Catholic Bible.

The Pseudopigrapha is a group of early writings not included in either the canonized Bible or the Apocrypha. The “pseudo” aspect of the word denotes that these writings were fictitious or written with the intent to deceive by ascribing them as writings of popular characters of the Bible. The major difference of the Apocrypha and the Pseudopigrapha is that the authorship of the Apocrypha is uncertain. On the other hand, the authorship of the Pseudopigrapha is presumed to be written under the false names of famous prophets and key figures from the Old Testament.

The word "canon" comes from the Greek word kanon, a rod used to measure. The meaning of canon applied to the Bible is a list of books considered the true authoritative scripture by a particular religious sect.

This is a very important time in the history of Christianity. The Dead Sea Scrolls uncovered answers to many questions that the world has asked for over two thousand years. The cover up of so many mistruths about Christ and the early Church is causing the world to rethink organized religion. Many people are turning to Wicca, but they are not turning away from Christ. This is going to be the most difficult point for fundamental Christians to accept. The need for the presence of Jesus with the cosmic balance of a Heavenly Mother as well as a Heavenly Father is the new pathway to the Christian Divine - and many are taking this pathway by the means of Wicca.

The term eclectic is often associated with Wicca. It is best defined as selecting and composing spiritual knowledge from various spiritual sources, magio-religious systems, and doctrines of enlightenment that brings the practitioner closer to the One True Creative Spirit.

The eclecticism of spirituality is becoming more and more prevalent in our society today as spiritual seekers of knowledge are becoming increasingly aware that there is no “single true way” of enlightenment nor is there any one single religion that has all the answers to the meaning of this life and the after life. It deals with the simple fact that there is no one single book of prophecy and enlightenment, which does not contain contradictions or missing aspects of seemingly pertinent information. The most realistic reason for these contradictions is not “blamed on God,” but the fact that man has tampered with Holy Scriptures for various reasons and humankind is imperfect. To gain perfection and be more like the Divine is the reason for religion. It is said that religion is the act of “re-legion” with the One True God; psychologist and spiritualist Carl Jung believes this to be one of humankind’s basic natural instincts.

Another term often associated with Christian Wicca is esoteric. Specific spiritual ideas, literature, and doctrines intended for and only understood by a select group of individuals is the practical definition of this term. Its definition also includes information understood by an inner group of disciples or initiates, in reference to an organization it refers to those who study spiritual knowledge and practices beyond the understanding of the average religious practitioner. Esoterica deals with abstract spiritual thought, study, and meditations for positive results, greater understanding, and ultimate communion with the Divine.

Necessity is the mother of invention. While this is a common phrase and philosophy, perhaps this is the first time that the invention is not material. Trinitarian Wicca is an invention that deals with spirituality, not the inventions of physical ideas made manifest on the material plane. The spiritual necessity in this case is that young people are not getting what they need in their spiritual diet from organized Christian churches. Christian Wicca is the invention, which has self-manifested as a direct result of this emptiness concerning the soul which continues to look to the Judeo-Christian Pantheon, most specifically Jesus Christ and the recovery of the Feminine aspect of God.

Anyone with open eyes and an open mind can see that teenagers now fill New Age isles in the literary chain stores. Metaphysical bookstores are springing up everywhere as the youth of today are seeking a form of spirituality that their own fundamental Christian churches are not providing.

These are normal youths. I am not speaking of rebellious teenagers, drug addicts, and social misfits. I am speaking of the “kids next door.” They are not seeking affiliation with dark entities, exerting power over others or involvement with Satanism; instead, they are simply looking for spiritual peace and balance in their lives. Why are today’s youth looking for spiritual peace and balance in non-Christian based religions? It is simple; the Modern Church in any form or denomination is not doing its job! It is not providing spiritual peace and balance.

This should be a warning sign to all of Christianity! Alarms should be going off to the Modern Church, telling the Church leaders that something is dreadfully wrong in their organizations’ spirituality departments. The Modern Organized Christian Churches are letting their young people down; as a direct result, people are looking for spiritual wholeness in the earth-based religions.

The younger generations have not been so pleased with what organized Christian religion has offered; they have many unanswered questions. What these generations now see in organized religion is not inner peace, love, and understanding. The church is now viewed as a facade for hypocrites, embezzlers, and users and squeezers; they have made the House of God a medium for comfortable business transactions within their own community, while moral charades are carried on in the name of saving people’s souls on prime time television.

So, what happened to cause this change in the system of Organized Religion? Why are the newer generations finding no comfort in “the church”? Fundamental Christianity seemed to be so right for our parents and grandparents. What happened? Perhaps it is because those born starting in the 1940s (often referred to as the “baby boomers”) were one of the first generations to have easy, widespread access to higher education, more solid world communication, and ready access to more news and information on more subjects. Therefore, since the middle of the 20th century, people have been entering the world with more choices, and they have had a better view of what they wanted simply because they were aware of more options. No longer did the family unit stay simple and isolated “down on the farm”; the scales of supply and demand were tilting and the material world took its toll on spirituality.

In the interviews for this book, I questioned family, friends, and acquaintances, both young and old. I questioned why Organized Religion has in fact hardened their hearts. The first response came from an immediate family member with “I am just not interested in getting into that,” and they hung up. The next call produced an even more stinging answer: “What do those people have that I don’t? At least I get to sleep late while they are chasing an old fairy tale every Sunday.” To say the least, I was very surprised.

A more solid and intellectual take was given as “I think people today are not so different from our grandparents, but it takes life dealing you a bad hand from time to time and a great deal of mental baggage to make older persons finally turn to the church. This is a recurring cycle and the Baby Boomers and Generation X (those born during the 60’s) just aren’t to that point yet.”

Then came one very simple answer that I tend to agree with: “... along with more opportunities for educational and world wide communication... we have more things that sizzle and pop and shine in our lives to hold our attention than the church.”

Nancy Chandler Pittman:


Nancy Chandler-Pittman is a 40-year-old ChristoPagan author who celebrates her zeal for Wicca and magick through the Kabbalistic-Gnostic Pantheons. She is an ordained Interfaith Minister, with an Honorary Doctorate in Divinity from the Universal Life Church. Born on July 4, Nancy’s personality has formed as an independent thinker. She is also a musician, an author, a teacher, and is in some senses a spiritual rebel. She has always followed her own heart toward methods of communing with the Genderless Spirit.

A songwriter/musician since her early teens, she has written and produced several albums, and has founded an independent record label and distribution company. From 1983 until 1998, Nancy traveled extensively, performing and promoting her music. She has been featured regularly in major magazines and independent publications.

Passionate about the Tarot and mysticism since age 14, Nancy teaches a 36-week class on the Rider-Waite Tarot deck, stressing the Tree of Life, Jungian philosophies, numerology, and the Hebrew alphabet. Now owning her own occult store, the Shadows and Light Shoppe, she encourages spiritual tolerance in the magickal community in North Alabama.

Nancy also teaches Wicca through open circles using a hands-on approach to coven work. She teaches the celebrations of the Sabbats and Esbats from various Pagan traditions, combined with non-dogmatic Christianity. Nancy firmly believes that magico-religious tolerance will be achieved through the studies of parallel philosophies, and comparative spiritual research. Nancy holds true to these ethics in her teachings and life.
 
from Christainwicca.com

The Female Aspect of God:
Supporting Scriptures
Whatever is hidden
Is meant to be disclosed.
And whatever is concealed
Is meant to be brought into the open.
(Mark 4:22)
Most of the information of any Female Deity or feminine affiliation with the Godhead is absent from the Holy Bible, but only on the surface. That is one possibility as to why the Bible contradicts itself and if you read in your own Bible's Concordance, most have information about the contradictions and various opinions on the subject.
The first nine chapters of Proverbs are dedicated to Sophia, however the English translation notes Her only as the Spirit Wisdom, or Lady Wisdom. Wisdom is referred to as “She” throughout the book Proverbs, found in both the Catholic and Protestant Bible.
The Apocrypha, which contains 14 books of the sacred literature of the Alexandrian Jews, also includes The Wisdom of Solomon. This book also gives great account of Sophia. In addition, Chapter 24 of Ecclesiasticus or Sirach speaks warmly of Lady Wisdom or Sophia; verse 9 tells of Her creation: “He created me from the beginning before the world, and I shall never fail.”


Verse 18 states Her position as the helpmate of the Creator:


"I am the Mother of fair love, of fear, and knowledge,

and holy hope: I therefore, being eternal, am given

to all my children, which are named by Him."


Proverbs 3:13-19 reveals Lady Wisdom's :


"Happy is the man that findeth Wisdom, and the man

that getteth understanding: for the merchandise of

it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain

thereof than fine gold. She is more precious than rubies;
and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared
Of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand, riches

and honor. Her ways are pleasantness and all her paths

are peace. She is a Tree of Life to them that lay hold upon

her; and happy is everyone that retaineth her. The lord by

Wisdom has founded the earth; by understanding hath he

established the heavens.”
 
I used to point out some of those references to a certain minister. That is what got me kicked out of Lutheran Confirmation classes. heh...I could see that there was something hidden in the bible that the powers to be didn't want us to know. I guess, since my sister was becoming Catholic at the time I could see it clearer with her beliefs. She told me that I had no business trying to interperet the bible that the priests or ministers should be the only ones t do that for me. Hmmmmm...The one thing that would get my back up would be told to be by my sister. Her statement only made me surer of my position from then on. I did let it fall to a back burner for years though. Easier to go along than to question it seems.

Now, nearly forty years later I have had my eyes opened and can see what I thought was a smoke-screen was just that. My only thoughts on this are that the powers of the church...whichever church you want to name, feels that the only way to keep up the power and system as it is, is to keep on presenting God as the one true male God only. All others have to be less or not existent in order for the 'teachings' to work.

I won't knock Christianity though...it is the belief system that works for many people. It just isn't my cup of tea and I choose to believe in Celtic Paganism more and more.:)
 
Just as all rivers run into one ocean so do all gods run into The God.

We, as people, try to pick the most navigable river for us. :)
 
PoliteSuccubus said:
Just as all rivers run into one ocean so do all gods run into The God.

We, as people, try to pick the most navigable river for us. :)

I have always seemed to pick the rivers that have the most twists, rapids and waterfalls in them. If you can easily navigate the waters of life, life becomes to predictable. No adventure there.
 
Two different rivers, me thinks.

A life path and a spiritual path.

Tho one of the great challenges is living a life that blends them both.
 
Just dropping in for some warm hugs to you all. I am still reading through a book I bought entitled Wicca: Practices and Beliefs. It is quite an interesting read.

Hugz & Tickles
Pinnochio
 
PoliteSuccubus said:
Two different rivers, me thinks.

A life path and a spiritual path.

Tho one of the great challenges is living a life that blends them both.

Well my spirtual path has had less rapids in the rivers than my life has. I am know combining the two of the to bring harmony and balance to my existence on this plane.
 
Another brain fart. The above reply is from me . The ExistentialLuv godess. Have a great day everyone!!!!!!!!!:D
 
Isn't that what religion is or should be all about anyway? One striving for balance and harmony in this existence while working on the next?
 
ExistentialLuv said:
Another brain fart. The above reply is from me . The ExistentialLuv godess. Have a great day everyone!!!!!!!!!:D
You guys are continually confusing me... :D :rose:
 
I'm looking for ideas on a Athame and a Sword. I have the skills and materials to make my own. Since my leanings are towards Celtic path Paganism I have some idea's what I want to incorporate into my tools. Starting with a pentacle that I have begun in copper, I feel that I should try my best to make all of my own since I do have the Goddess/God given skills to do so.

I have seen many types of swords and am just not certain of what design I will go with yet. I would appreciate any helpful suggestions in this way.:)
 
curious2c said:
I'm looking for ideas on a Athame and a Sword. I have the skills and materials to make my own. Since my leanings are towards Celtic path Paganism I have some idea's what I want to incorporate into my tools. Starting with a pentacle that I have begun in copper, I feel that I should try my best to make all of my own since I do have the Goddess/God given skills to do so.

I have seen many types of swords and am just not certain of what design I will go with yet. I would appreciate any helpful suggestions in this way.:)

Curious... it is always more powerful to create your own tools, ritual, etc. And all your energy going into the forging of those blades... Unbelievable, you are amazing me more day to day!

That is how I wish to acquire all my tools... it is taking a long time. I believe it is best to either create them myself or be gifted (either by Fey or spiritual sis/bro).

I am quite adept at wandmaking and crafty in other areas but forging is beyond my current capabilities...

Would you consider the barter system? I trust your intent...
 
C2C, did you pick up that book yet...which of course now that I remember to ask you about I can't remember the title to?

Ash, thorne, oak? no...Darn it!
 
Image said:
Curious... it is always more powerful to create your own tools, ritual, etc. And all your energy going into the forging of those blades... Unbelievable, you are amazing me more day to day!

That is how I wish to acquire all my tools... it is taking a long time. I believe it is best to either create them myself or be gifted (either by Fey or spiritual sis/bro).

I am quite adept at wandmaking and crafty in other areas but forging is beyond my current capabilities...

Would you consider the barter system? I trust your intent...

I have to set up my forge at home yet or at least my oxy-acetylene torch. I have a few pieces of an alloy in round stock that I want to attempt to try to use. Not sure about the significance of it, but it is a titianium alloy. I also have some real good steel too. I had read in two different books that it was best to make your own tools or to 'know the intent' of those who would make them for you. I am honored that would trust my intent Image.

I will say that first I would like to be sure that I can make these tools in such a way that I could be happy with them. Forging on anvil is something I rarely do and with out practice...well...I will get lots of practice before I heat up the metals for tools.;)

A barter system would be acceptable...I want to be sure I can do acceptable work before I commit though. Kinda the ol' caution comes out in me once in a while. Heh...especially with tools such as these.

I am not sure as to how the Gods and Goddess would accept Titainium metal...I know that in history, Pagan Shamans held knowledge to high regard...and Titainium is...well...pretty high knowledge metal to work with. I would hope that it would please the Goddess/God fully. If not...I still have the back up steel.

Heh...Smithing is in my blood you see...I had a Great grandfather who was a smith, and I think that he wrote somewhere that his great grandfather was a smith from the old country (Ireland) So, if the intent and skill can be passed on it is possible that I did have ancestors that were Shamans or at the very least smiths in the...um...Pagan way. ( I dearly hope that is whence it all comes from.)


Polite S. THe book you told me about was Oak Ash and Thorne, and at the time I checked at Waldenbooks the clerk there was kinda new...not real sure if they understood the computer search they did sicne I thought I saw that title flash by just before they gave up and said they didn't know how to get it. I will try to order it from them again...hopefully with a different clerk this time who may notice that fleeting title.:)
 
You can get it for less at Title Wave, I saw it there just a week ago, a couple of copies.
 
I may just go online and get it. With my schedule of work, I like to have books to read while there since I am limited to what else I can do. It sounds like a book to take to heart.
 
It's actually three books in one, and very good. Covers history and putting your past life behind you and searching out your new path in the European shamanic way.

Including Celtic.
 
It's kind of strange to me at times. I have or get feelings of knowledge that I cannot explain...like for instance, when I began welding years ago...I felt like I knew the metal I was welding as I welded it. I could 'feel' the flow of molten metal. I found out just lately that my Great grandfather had written a bit down on his past...that is where I found the reference to his great granfather. Makes me wonder if this smithy thing was passed one great grandfather to great grandson...although never having met the man...how?

Any books I can read on Celtic or Druid Paganism are very welcome to me since I feel a kinship (like above) I can feel it in my blood, as part of my soul.:)
 
Like I said before, I don't have anything against Christians. I do have some problems with Christianity, being an ex-fundamentalist for about five years now (only three if you count the time I was actually a non-Christian). I don't see the faith systems of Christianity and Wicca being compatible, myself. I freely admit it may be due to my own biases on the subject, as I have had a difficult time even being on a liberal Christian e-list, much less being in a liberal Christian church (I was part of a choir for a funeral service there...felt like I couldn't breathe the entire time). If you see it otherwise, don't let me bar you from the Divine's reaching out to you through that system. But I will have a hard time agreeing with you.

I have nothing against you personally, either, PS. You are a very kindly and friendly person, and I'm sure you're not just (as some Pagans would say) unable to give up the stifling and corrupt system of Christianity, so you're stealing part of our religion to make it more palatable. :rolleyes: I'm sure you believe what you believe, and from what you've said, I'm sure you can't connect with the Divine any other way. I hope your kindness and understanding can extend to my biases here, and that we can still relate in a friendly fashion.

Have a great weekend, everyone! May the Gods you love bless you, may the earth uphold you, may the Sun shine on you in gladness, and may those you love, be they animal or plant or human, share in your joy.
 
I went out this morning and got my hand fired forge out of storage. It was on the ranch when my grandfather died and he left it to me since I was the only one in the family to show any interest in it and the tools of the trade.

I will have to clean it up a bit and work over the blower since it is frozen up...bearings polished and stuff I suppose. As soon as I can get it fired up I will begin to practice sword making the old fashioned way.

For such a small forge it sure is heavy. It took both of my sons and myself to load it up into the rig and unload it at home. The son's have shown a little interest in it, so it may be a great teaching tool too.
 
Image said:
You guys are continually confusing me... :D :rose:


:D LOL I thought she was just using my id becase she has been a member for less then a month and has over 400 post. I have been here for over a year and have less then 200. ;)



Or I could learn to log out when I am done. lol
 
I'll forgive you, Kass, but the
you're stealing part of our religion to make it more palatable.
left a bad taste in my mouth. Another way of wording it would have been nicer.

Edited coz I'm a half blind goofus!
 
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This is an interesting and informative thread. I've just started looking into alternative forms of 'religion' myself. There's so much information out there! yipes! Can anyone suggest a good beginner book? Something kind of easy to read? I like the ideas of Wicca - sounds reasonable. I don't know if I'm all about spells and such - I just can't go on pretending to believe in Christianity - but I feel like something's missing?!?!
 
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