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~Fata Morgana~ said:
I'm Irish and everyone in my big Irish family is ok with calling someone a cunt.

If you are going to clutch your handbag everytime you see someone called a cunt on here you are going to develop RSI pretty quickly I think.
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The only one clutching a handbag is you. You get so offended at the idea that it's not okay to use a term that men use as an excuse to beat women. Using hate terms isn't a right. If you want to sound just like the men who think that having a cunt is a bad thing, that women are less than men, and that it's okay to scream "cunt" at someone while you're abusing them, go ahead. Using hate terms won't end violence any sooner, though.

In my big Irish family, we respect women and their cunts. If someone is being dumb, we say they're dumb. We don't verbally abuse people by implying that women's cunts are bad.
 
wynterskies1 said:
The only one clutching a handbag is you. You get so offended at the idea that it's not okay to use a term that men use as an excuse to beat women. Using hate terms isn't a right. If you want to sound just like the men who think that having a cunt is a bad thing, that women are less than men, and that it's okay to scream "cunt" at someone while you're abusing them, go ahead. Using hate terms won't end violence any sooner, though.

In my big Irish family, we respect women and their cunts. If someone is being dumb, we say they're dumb. We don't verbally abuse people by implying that women's cunts are bad.
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Why do you assume I am using cunt as a hate term?
 
What the hell?

And I thought stickwork was reasonably sane. I guess that shows me.
 
~Fata Morgana~ said:
Why do you assume I am using cunt as a hate term?
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Because when it's not used between two or more people who care for each other (usually in a romantic context, ahem), it's a hate term. No abusive asshole on the street has ever yelled "cunt" as a sweet term of endearment to a friend. They say it when they're degrading someone. They say it when they beat their children or their wives. They say it about people they disrespect and get into fights with.

I grew up around violent people, mostly men, who yelled "cunt" at people when they were abusing them. And I'm pretty young, so it's not an old trend.

It's easy. Anyone who thinks that we Irish or we who have cunts aren't strong, smart, and tenacious is just dumb. There's no excuse for using anti-Irish terms or terms that are used to degrade women.
 
wynterskies1 said:
Because when it's not used between two or more people who care for each other (usually in a romantic context, ahem), it's a hate term. No abusive asshole on the street has ever yelled "cunt" as a sweet term of endearment to a friend. They say it when they're degrading someone. They say it when they beat their children or their wives. They say it about people they disrespect and get into fights with.

I grew up around violent people, mostly men, who yelled "cunt" at people when they were abusing them. And I'm pretty young, so it's not an old trend.

It's easy. Anyone who thinks that we Irish or we who have cunts aren't strong, smart, and tenacious is just dumb. There's no excuse for using anti-Irish terms or terms that are used to degrade women.
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In your neighbourhood maybe, but many people use it in a non-hateful way. In the same way "cock" is used.

I'll be honest, I haven't read this thread, I keep seeing Irish though, has anyone mentioned the potato famine yet?!
 
wynterskies1 said:
The only one clutching a handbag is you. You get so offended at the idea that it's not okay to use a term that men use as an excuse to beat women. Using hate terms isn't a right. If you want to sound just like the men who think that having a cunt is a bad thing, that women are less than men, and that it's okay to scream "cunt" at someone while you're abusing them, go ahead. Using hate terms won't end violence any sooner, though.

In my big Irish family, we respect women and their cunts. If someone is being dumb, we say they're dumb. We don't verbally abuse people by implying that women's cunts are bad.
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Shut up, you dumb cunt.
 
wynterskies1 said:
Because when it's not used between two or more people who care for each other (usually in a romantic context, ahem), it's a hate term. No abusive asshole on the street has ever yelled "cunt" as a sweet term of endearment to a friend. They say it when they're degrading someone. They say it when they beat their children or their wives. They say it about people they disrespect and get into fights with.

I grew up around violent people, mostly men, who yelled "cunt" at people when they were abusing them. And I'm pretty young, so it's not an old trend.

It's easy. Anyone who thinks that we Irish or we who have cunts aren't strong, smart, and tenacious is just dumb. There's no excuse for using anti-Irish terms or terms that are used to degrade women.
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Romantic???

As in "I love you, cunt" or "I can't live without you, you cunt". Never heard anyone in Ireland use it in that context.

You say "we Irish", does this mean you once had a bottle of Baileys in 1994 and are still riding on the back of that particular thrill? Because no Irish person I know uses the word "dumb" or "asshole" but uses the term "cunt" a hell of a lot.

This fella puts it better.

"Cunt," in Irish-English, is the same as it is in Euro-English. Its primary use is vulgar, but not obscene. It is not primarily a rude term for "vagina" nor "bad woman," and its subject is usually not feminine at all. "Cunt" is just an irreverent way of refering to a fellow.

You've not twenty posts on here and they are all preachy, pc, defensive bollocks. I have absolutely nothing against women, men, cunts, cocks, Irish or English. I do have something against holier than thou, humourless imbeciles such as yourself though.

Ergo, to say I think you are an uptight cunt.
 
~Fata Morgana~ said:
Romantic???

As in "I love you, cunt" or "I can't live without you, you cunt". Never heard anyone in Ireland use it in that context.

You say "we Irish", does this mean you once had a bottle of Baileys in 1994 and are still riding on the back of that particular thrill? Because no Irish person I know uses the word "dumb" or "asshole" but uses the term "cunt" a hell of a lot.

This fella puts it better.

"Cunt," in Irish-English, is the same as it is in Euro-English. Its primary use is vulgar, but not obscene. It is not primarily a rude term for "vagina" nor "bad woman," and its subject is usually not feminine at all. "Cunt" is just an irreverent way of refering to a fellow.

You've not twenty posts on here and they are all preachy, pc, defensive bollocks. I have absolutely nothing against women, men, cunts, cocks, Irish or English. I do have something against holier than thou, humourless imbeciles such as yourself though.

Ergo, to say I think you are an uptight cunt.
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No, loving as in "I love your cunt" or "I want your cunt" in a private setting. You wouldn't use it to address someone.

To the contrary, I am Irish. From Ireland. Not some wannabe-Irish celebrant in a St. Pat's Day parade in the States, thanks. Living in the States may have put me in touch with the way Americans speak, but it doesn't make me less Irish.

No. Wrong. Everyone who uses the term "cunt" as an insult knows that it refers to a woman's vagina and that it's used to degrade people. That is its colloquial meaning and the way that people use it. Giving some arbitrary dictionary definition doesn't change the way it's always been used on the street and in people's homes when someone is beating up their victim.

If you think my posts are preachy just because I said that women should be able to enjoy sex the same as a man without being judged for it, women shouldn't be abused, and people should stop using hate terms, then your idea of "uptight" is pretty odd to me. I guess you'd be offended if I said that you shouldn't verbally abuse people.

I see nothing wrong or preachy about saying that women are free to have sex as much as men do and that we try to end violence against women.
 
Oh yes, I am known on here for being particularly uptight and abusive.

I fear you have now shown me the error of my ways.
 
Peregrinator said:
I'd suggest you get to know him. A Bostonian with Irish ancestry, well, it's like me making fun of Sweden or tall people or something.
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It'd be nice if he were here to say that for himself. That's my first assumption, but boy have I been wrong...lots...before.
 
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