Overt vs Covert Foreign Interference.

[BluesDriver66]

No insults or conspiracies.

Just an objective observation and an educated guess.

You're attempts to deflect attention away from the OP's main point relating to Russian and Corporate efforts to artificially elevate inflation in the U.S. and other Democracies to hurt Democratic leaders is noted.

But do carry on like Saudi Arabia is currently the primary bad actor that the United States should be focused on. It's mildly entertaining.

You don't even remember what you wrote in your own post? You talk about it in the third person like you didn't even write it? You specifically mention Saudi Arabia. You're flailing all over the place.

on edit - Anybody involved in the crimes of 9/11 should be focused on until they are brought to justice or they're dead. WTF is wrong with you?

 

[Lazaran]

You don't even remember what you wrote in your own post? You talk about it in the third person like you didn't even write it? You specifically mention Saudi Arabia. You're flailing all over the place.

on edit - Anybody involved in the crimes of 9/11 should be focused on until they are brought to justice or they're dead. WTF is wrong with you?

I know what I wrote.

I'm just laughing at your myopic focus on Saudi Arabia.

That ^ and your laughable assertion that the groups I identified wouldn't prefer a republican President and Congress.

I'll suggest again that Russia and profiteering global corporations overtly interfered with elections by artificially exacerbating inflation, as opposed to covertly interfering via a social media mis / dis information campaign. And yes, the evil Saudis were complicit in the effort. The change of tactics makes sense because Russia & Co. knew the covert social media campaign they executed in 2016 and even 2020 to some extent, wouldn't work in 2022.

Discuss.

 

[BluesDriver66]

I know what I wrote.

I'm just laughing at your myopic focus on Saudi Arabia.

That ^ and your laughable assertion that the groups I identified wouldn't prefer a republican President and Congress.

I'll suggest again that Russia and profiteering global corporations overtly interfered with elections by artificially exacerbating inflation, as opposed to covertly interfering via a social media mis / dis information campaign. And yes, the evil Saudis were complicit in the effort. The change of tactics makes sense because Russia & Co. knew the covert social media campaign they executed in 2016 and even 2020 to some extent, wouldn't work in 2022.

Discuss.

Do you actually read or try to inform yourself in any way before you start flapping your lips or you just go with whatever wanders through your mind at any random moment of the day?

Putin ally boasts he ‘interfered’ in U.S. midterm elections ​

Russian oligarch Yevgeniy Prigozhin, an ally of President Vladimir Putin and head of Russia’s Wagner mercenary group, which is fighting in Ukraine, boasted Monday that he was interfering in the U.S. midterm congressional elections and planned to continue doing so.

Prigozhin gained infamy as an operator of internet “troll farms” and was placed under sanction by the U.S. Treasury Department for his role in meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, using a company he owned, then called the Internet Research Agency, to spread misinformation and sow discord, especially on social media platforms.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/11/07/yevgeniy-prigozhin-election-interference-russia/

 

[PaxNurgle]

^I have a feeling certain posters on this forum were actually on his payroll. Rightguide and his army of aliases haven't been seen since at least a week before the elections, and I don't think that is a coincidence.

Yomeme and HIS army of sock-puppet screen names (e.g. chobham, hisarpy, icanhelp, johnnybbad, etc.) are still here, unfortunately.

 

[Lazaran]

Do you actually read or try to inform yourself in any way before you start flapping your lips or you just go with whatever wanders through your mind at any random moment of the day?

Putin ally boasts he ‘interfered’ in U.S. midterm elections ​

Russian oligarch Yevgeniy Prigozhin, an ally of President Vladimir Putin and head of Russia’s Wagner mercenary group, which is fighting in Ukraine, boasted Monday that he was interfering in the U.S. midterm congressional elections and planned to continue doing so.

Prigozhin gained infamy as an operator of internet “troll farms” and was placed under sanction by the U.S. Treasury Department for his role in meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, using a company he owned, then called the Internet Research Agency, to spread misinformation and sow discord, especially on social media platforms.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/11/07/yevgeniy-prigozhin-election-interference-russia/

Your comrade can say whatever he wants.

This thread was started partly in response to a report I read about there being no significant malign foreign interference on major social media platforms for these midterms. Another article I read highlighted "Meta's" success at shutting down malign accounts.

Now would you care to address the Main point in the OP about overt actions by those I identified which exacerbated inflation in an effort to hurt President Biden and Democrats in these midterms???

 

[Lazaran]

^I have a feeling certain posters on this forum were actually on his payroll. Rightguide and his army of aliases haven't been seen since at least a week before the elections, and I don't think that is a coincidence.

Yomeme and HIS army of sock-puppet screen names (e.g. chobham, hisarpy, icanhelp, johnnybbad, etc.) are still here, unfortunately.

You could be right.

This little backwater site may have been the last place they could conduct their misinformation campaigns without getting shut down.

But somehow I don't believe their efforts here would have affected the outcome.

*chuckles*

 

[icanhelp1]

No insults or conspiracies.

Just an objective observation and an educated guess.

You're attempts to deflect attention away from the OP's main point relating to Russian and Corporate efforts to artificially elevate inflation in the U.S. and other Democracies to hurt Democratic leaders is noted.

But do carry on like Saudi Arabia is currently the primary bad actor that the United States should be focused on. It's mildly entertaining.

More revisionist history by Lorazepam. Biden entered office with an agenda to put a wet blanket on domestic oil production. There was no Ukraine war, coming out of a pandemic malaise while putting a wet blanket on domestic oil production was the exact opposite of the the policy needed to keep up with increased economic activity, to keep fuel prices low and facilitate growth and minimize the effect of supply chain shortages.

Biden's decisions on restricting domestic oil production was as ass backwards as his withdrawal from Afghanistan. Restricting domestic production put us at a disadvantage in dealing with the Russian invasion and put our European allies between a rock and a hard place. Biden lifting sanctions on Nord stream II contractors was the worst policy adjustment.

Biden shaped his policy adjustments and E/Os based on his hatred for Trump not for the best interest of our country.

S/A is not an ally and with our bountiful supply of fossil fuels we should cut the cord with S/A but we can't because we have an incompetent fool at the helm.

Corporate donations have favored democrats for decades.

Tech and media platforms also favor dems. Google is far more dangerous to our democracy than any foreign adversary. Perhaps familiarise yourself with Dr. Robert Epstein's papers on how google influences elections.

 

[Lazaran]

ineedhelp1 is either a fool or a Russian / Corporate apologist.

I'm sure there are those who don't want to confront the reality of how Putin's actions and their predictable effects on inflation damaged President Biden and congressional democrats. -
And they sure as hell don't want to consider / admit that the corporations they slavishly worship cheerfully chose to profiteer, predictably affecting inflation and damaging President Biden and congressional democrats.

The reality of overt Russian and Corporate decisions / actions relating to inflation is not subject to debate. The question is if anyone recognizes / considers how those overt decisions / actions affected inflation for the express.purpose of damaging President Biden and Democrats. (And other non-authoritarian leaders and parties worldwide)

Discuss.

 

[phrodeau]

More revisionist history by Lorazepam. Biden entered office with an agenda to put a wet blanket on domestic oil production. There was no Ukraine war, coming out of a pandemic malaise while putting a wet blanket on domestic oil production was the exact opposite of the the policy needed to keep up with increased economic activity, to keep fuel prices low and facilitate growth and minimize the effect of supply chain shortages.

Biden's decisions on restricting domestic oil production was as ass backwards as his withdrawal from Afghanistan. Restricting domestic production put us at a disadvantage in dealing with the Russian invasion and put our European allies between a rock and a hard place. Biden lifting sanctions on Nord stream II contractors was the worst policy adjustment.

Biden shaped his policy adjustments and E/Os based on his hatred for Trump not for the best interest of our country.

S/A is not an ally and with our bountiful supply of fossil fuels we should cut the cord with S/A but we can't because we have an incompetent fool at the helm.

Corporate donations have favored democrats for decades.

Tech and media platforms also favor dems. Google is far more dangerous to our democracy than any foreign adversary. Perhaps familiarise yourself with Dr. Robert Epstein's papers on how google influences elections.

That’s a fucking lie. Biden hasn’t restricted domestic oil production at all.

https://www.newsweek.com/have-biden-administration-policies-reduced-us-oil-production-1686104?amp=1

 

[Lazaran]

That’s a fucking lie. Biden hasn’t restricted domestic oil production at all.

https://www.newsweek.com/have-biden-administration-policies-reduced-us-oil-production-1686104?amp=1

Of course it's a lie.

And of course Putin's war of choice and Corporate profiteering by choice exacerbated inflation and had the predictable effect of damaging President Biden and Democrats.

That's kinda the whole point of this thread:

Highlighting the ability / power of Dictators and Corporate oligarchs to overtly manufacture inflation / economic pain to damage a leader (or leaders) that threaten or challenge their corrupt / sociopathic agendas and status quo.

Discuss.

 

[KeithD]

ineedhelp1 is either a fool or a Russian / Corporate apologist.

ICan't has shown the ability to be both.

 

[Lazaran]

ICan't has shown the ability to be both.

Fair enough.

 

[icanhelp1]

ineedhelp1 is either a fool or a Russian / Corporate apologist.

I'm sure there are those who don't want to confront the reality of how Putin's actions and their predictable effects on inflation damaged President Biden and congressional democrats. -
And they sure as hell don't want to consider / admit that the corporations they slavishly worship cheerfully chose to profiteer, predictably affecting inflation and damaging President Biden and congressional democrats.

The reality of overt Russian and Corporate decisions / actions relating to inflation is not subject to debate. The question is if anyone recognizes / considers how those overt decisions / actions affected inflation for the express.purpose of damaging President Biden and Democrats. (And other non-authoritarian leaders and parties worldwide)

Discuss.

Corporate culture has changed drastically in the last 5 decades. Corporatist have global agendas and have boc

ICan't has shown the ability to be both.

https://www.heritage.org/energy-eco...sil-fuel-energy-policy-costs-americans-dearly

https://www.heritage.org/energy-eco...k-mirror-whom-blame-his-energy-policy-failure

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/09/bidens-political-abuse-of-the-strategic-petroleum-reserve/

https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/expert-rips-biden-backwards-energy-policies-failing-americans

https://oklahoma.gov/governor/newsr...ds-to-joe-biden-s-failed-energy-policies.html

 

[AsmodeusPrime]

As long as that interference is helping democrats win, it's all good!!! Republican voters should be subverted by foreign interest, when our democracy is on the line like it is that's what any patriotic American supports.

 

[AsmodeusPrime]

Anybody involved in the crimes of 9/11 should be focused on until they are brought to justice or they're dead. WTF is wrong with you?

That's racist, you must be a republican war monger, wtf is wrong with you??

Only racist support racist ass America.

Clearly a white nationalist MAGA fascist.

 

[Lazaran]

ineedhelp1 and "Not BotBoy" are flailing away because they can't grasp or accept the reality of recent (and long-standing) overt economic manipulation designed to benefit the Republican Party which is subservient to foreign and domestic authoritarians and oligarchs.

*nods*

 

[AsmodeusPrime]

ineedhelp1 and "Not BotBoy" are flailing away because they can't grasp or accept the reality of recent (and long-standing) overt economic manipulation designed to benefit the Republican Party which is subservient to foreign and domestic authoritarians and oligarchs.

*nods*

Meanwhile warmonger Democrats send mega millions to Ukraine while their own people struggle with basic needs.... not to mention are against pretty much all of our civil rights or even the very existence of the USA as a sovereign nation, I mean, it's just so RACIST and EVIL!!!!

Yea, it's the free speech, gun toting and pro-private property Republicans who are the authoritarians helping foreign oligarchs. Not the Democrats who want to take my rights and then use my property to start WW3 ..... no they are perfection on Earth.

 

[phrodeau]

Corporate culture has changed drastically in the last 5 decades. Corporatist have global agendas and have boc

https://www.heritage.org/energy-eco...sil-fuel-energy-policy-costs-americans-dearly

https://www.heritage.org/energy-eco...k-mirror-whom-blame-his-energy-policy-failure

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/09/bidens-political-abuse-of-the-strategic-petroleum-reserve/

https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/expert-rips-biden-backwards-energy-policies-failing-americans

https://oklahoma.gov/governor/newsr...ds-to-joe-biden-s-failed-energy-policies.html

Opinion pieces don’t alter the facts. Now, if you want to argue that putting solar panels on the White House roof prevents fossil fuel companies from profiting under government contracts, then that might make a smidgeon of sense.

 

[Lazaran]

"Not BotBoy" triggered AF by the truth.

"Not BotBoy" = "Histrionic"

*chuckles*.