Osama bin Laden, RIP 16th DEc 2001

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White House Gets Defensive Over Accusation Bin Laden Is Dead
Usually obedient press corps ask how a dying man on a dialysis machine can survive in remote Pakistani hill caves for six years
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/190707binladendead.htm

Of course, the news of Osama bin Laden being dead came out nearly six years ago. For vetteman, a report from FOX NEWS
http://xs117.xs.to/xs117/07295/FoxNewsOBLdead.png
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html

1~ Osama bin Laden is NOT on the FBI most wanted list in connection with 911. Why not? According to FBI spokesman, Chief of Investigative Publicity Rex Tomb, “The FBI has no hard evidence connecting Usama Bin Laden to 9/11.” http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4673 http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm (accessed 20 August 2006)

2~ Osama bin Laden is long D E A D. He died on the 16th December 2001, and this was reported throughout Asia and the Middle East about ten days later. Some members of his family attended his funeral in Afghanistan. He died from kidney failure and a lung infection.

Tragically, some SHILLS want to continue to PRETEND that Osama bin Laden is alive. Losing Osama must've been very traumatic for them.

Do a search on these if you like;

According to the Pakistani press, and the Egyptian newspaper, al-Wafd, (Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633) Bin Laden died in December 2001 of pulmonary complications incident to catastrophic kidney failure, in the absence of available hygienic dialysis.

The Egyptian newspaper al-Wafd published an article dated Wednesday, December 26, 2001, (Vol 15 No 4633) describing bin Laden's funeral:
"News of Bin Laden's Death and Funeral 10 days ago
ISLAMABAD - A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of al-Qa'da fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taleban. ..."

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/funeral.jpg
This is a scan of Osama bin Laden's funeral notice

Israeli intelligence: Bin Laden is dead, heir has been chosen TEL AVIV - Osama Bin Laden appears to be dead but his colleagues have decided that Al Qaida and its insurgency campaign against the United States will continue, Israeli intelligence sources said. The Israeli sources said Israel and the United States assess that Bin Laden probably died in the U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan in December. They said the emergence of new messages by Bin Laden are probably FABRICATIONS, Middle East Newsline reported.

(CNN, Oct 7, 2002) KABUL, Afghanistan - Osama bin Laden is "probably" dead, but former Taliban leader Mullah Omar is alive, Afghan President Hamid Karzai has said.

(BBC, 18 July 2002) The US Federal Bureau of Investigation's counter-terrorism chief, Dale Watson, says he thinks Osama bin Laden is "probably" dead.

Israeli intelligence: Bin Laden is dead, heir has been chosen
http://216.26.163.62/2002/me_terrorism_10_16.html
http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/funeral/israel-intel.txt
Wednesday, October 16, 2002
TEL AVIV Osama Bin Laden appears to be dead but his colleagues have
decided that Al Qaida and its insurgency campaign against the United
States will continue, Israeli intelligence sources said.

Al Qaida terrorists have launched a new campaign of economic warfare and
are targeting shipping in the Middle East, according to U.S. intelligence
officials.

The Israeli sources said Israel and the United States assess that Bin
Laden probably died in the U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan in
December. They said the emergence of new messages by Bin Laden are
probably fabrications,
Middle East Newsline reported.

Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader. "The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html

Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December [2001] and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/11/o...0&en=373a282aeff2716a&ei=5070&todaysheadlines


Anyone with a brain can recognise that this Mr Fat Nose (ON THE LEFT) from the 2001 fake confession video is not the REAL Osama bin Laden (ON THE RIGHT).
http://h1.ripway.com/ken_from_dublin/fake_osama_comparo1.jpg
fake video, OBVIOUSLY.

Some more pictures for comparison of the FAKE "confession video" Mr Fat Nose compared to REAL Osama bin Laden
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/binladen8.jpg
Even half-blind Mr Magoo would have to say that Osama 'E' stands out like a sore thumb, and this is the man on the "confession" tape. Between the nose and the cheeks it is clear that this man is NOT Osama.

As Riaz Durrani, a spokesman for Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam, which spearheaded pro-Taliban rallies in Pakistan, said back in 2001 about the above tape: "This videotape is not authentic. The Americans made it up after failing to get any evidence against Osama."

Do you really believe that he dyed his beard black and became YOUNGER as well?!
http://blogs.abcnews.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/07/newvideotapef_mn.jpg
The 2004 "Osama" was fake too -
below is 2004 fake Osama bin Laden vs real Osama bin Laden. Unless you believe that Osama has a shapechanging head and nose too.
http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/surprise/fake-to-real.gif

....and the latest video looks even more fake than the 2004 fake video. The actor is clearly not even the same guy!


The 2004 FAKE video - fake Osama bin Laden vs real Osama bin Laden. I guess he must have a shapechanging head and nose too.
http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/surprise/fake-to-real.gif


Old bin Laden tapes, sent as new tape
http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/funeral/nov-tape.txt


Proof Bin Laden Tape Is 5-Year-Old, Re-Released Footage

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/180707oldfootage.htm[/QUOTE]
Al-Jazeera said they had the footage as far back as October 2001, but chose not to air it as they saw it as "not newsworthy" and "nothing more than a PR stunt." Six years later, and with the footage having been released on two separate occasions already, the western media insinuated that the tape was new and splashed it everywhere as a top headline.

In our previous groundbreaking investigation, we exposed IntelCenter, the middleman between "Al-Qaeda's media arm" and the press, and the organization that routinely obtains the tapes, as little more than a Pentagon front group staffed by individuals with close connections to the military-industrial complex.

IntelCenter were also behind the release of the "new" Osama tape - having previously released the same footage (the second time it had appeared) in October 2003!

IntelCenter issued a tacit warning that the footage may be re-hashed when they released the "new" tape to the media, but they failed to mention the fact that they released portions of the exact same clips in October 2003. The screenshots of Bin Laden which clearly correlate with the "new" tape were on their website all along, and yet they still labeled the footage as "significant". IntelCenter knew the tape was definitely old, yet their meandering uncertainty left doubts that the media exploited to the full in claiming the footage may be new.
http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07294/180707osama3.jpg

Lab confirms voice tapes are fake
http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/funeral/swiss-lab.txt

Religious people frequently go on blind faith believing their great messiah is still alive, but you know, Elvis is still dead, Jimmy Hoffa is still dead, and Osama bin Laden is still dead. That's despite confused pretenders claiming them to be still alive.

As I said, very sad.

Of course, the US media has taken awhile to catch up with news in Arabic; maybe they lack decent translators? Or it wilful denial of facts? Rather like the US media willfully denied the lack of evidence that the USA and UK govts were lying through their teeth about WMDs in Iraq. They really can't be trusted, can they?

Do you recall what Walter Cronkite said about it last time some suspiciously convenient Osama bin Laden video came out?

On October 29, 2004, Larry King interviewed Walter Cronkite on CNN. This is what Cronkite said after seeing the video; "....I'm a little inclined to think that Karl Rove, the political manager at the White House, who is a very clever man, he probably set up bin Laden to this thing...."

Also here
Walter Cronkite: Karl Rove "Probably Set Up bin Laden" Video

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/2000/Osama-Vault--2380.jpg
 
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Osama Tape Appears Fake, Experts Conclude

US government fabricating evidence to manipulate American public, scholars say.

Duluth, MN (PRWEB) May 30, 2006 -- The latest audio tape attributed to Osama bin Laden appears to be one more installment in a succession of evidence fabricated by the US government to deceive the American people, according to Scholars for 9/11 Truth. "This tape is only the latest in a series of fabrications intended to mislead the American people," said James H. Fetzer, the society's founder. "The closer we get to revealing the truth about 9/11, the more furiously the government fights to conceal it!"



He said members of Scholars and other experts had detected evidence of fakery.

In this new recording, a voice attributed to Osama bin Laden asserts that Zacarias Moussaoui was not involved in 9/11, which he knew to be the case because he had personally assigned the 19 hijackers involved in those events. The Osama of this tape thereby implicitly confesses his responsibility for orchestrating the attacks. However, in a tape released on December 27, 2001, the authenticity of which is not in doubt, Osama denied having had anything to do with 9/11. "Moreover," Fetzer added, "some of the 19 hijackers he 'personally assigned' have turned up alive and well."

To be sure, this new tape is not the first one in which bin Laden appears to take responsibility for the attacks. As David Ray Griffin, a prominent member of Scholars, points out, "The Osama on the video tape that appeared on December 13, 2001, confessed to planning the 9/11 attacks. But he is far darker and much heavier than the real Osama bin Laden. People can see the difference by looking up 'The Fake bin Laden Video Tape' on Google."

Griffin's point is supported by a work-in-progress by members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, which appears on its web site under the heading, "9/11: Have we been lied to?" It offers evidence of fakery in some of the videos based upon various physical properties of the figures that are presumed to be Osama, pointing out that there are differences in the ears, cheeks, eyebrows, length of the nose and shape of the nostrils. "The use of computer analysis can 'fine tune' these questions of facial characteristics," Fetzer said, "but the gross differences already show they are not the same."

"Another problem with the video of December 13, 2001," Griffin pointed out, "was that its stocky bin Laden praised two of the alleged hijackers, Wail M. Al-Shehri and Salem al-Hazmi, by name, and yet both the London Telegraph and the Saudi embassy reported several days after 9/11 that al-Hazmi was still alive and working in Saudi Arabia. Given the fact that the earlier video in which Osama confessed was clearly a fake, we should be suspicious of this latest apparent confession."

A professor at Duke, Bruce Lawrence, who has published Messages to the World: The Statements of Osama bin Laden, expressed profound skepticism about a tape that was released January 17, 2006, in a report that appeared two days later. "There's nothing in this from the Koran," Lawrence said. "He's, by his own standards, a faithful Muslim who quotes scripture in defense of his actions. There's no quotation from the Koran in the excerpts we got, no reference to specific events, no reference to past atrocities." Lawrence also observed the tape ran only 10 minutes, whereas the shortest previous tape, at 18 minutes, was nearly twice as long.

Fetzer noted that many of the same anomalous properties are found in the latest tape. "Compared to Osama's past performances," he observed, "this message is too short, too direct, and full of falsehoods. It was even described on CBS News by Bob Schieffer as 'almost American'." A translation of the text of the tape has also been released by IntelCenter, a private company that does contract work for the US government.

Authentic Voice/Fake Content

Informed that Reuters news agency has reported confirmation that the voice on the tape is indeed that of Osama bin Laden, Fetzer replied, "The fact that the voice is his does not prove that the tape is authentic. We have had phony tapes before using voices that were authentic. Mark Bingham, a passenger on Flight 93, is supposed to have called his mother and said, 'Hi, Mom, this is Mark Bingham!' His mother confirmed it was his voice, but does anyone seriously believe that Mark Bingham would have used his last name in identifying himself to his mother?"

Griffin agreed, adding, "Back in 1999, William Arkin published an article entitled, 'When Seeing and Hearing isn't Believing' (which can also be accessed on Google). Describing the new technology of 'voice morphing' (or 'voice synthesizing'), Arkin explained that, if audio technicians have a recording of your voice, then they can create a tape in which your voice‹your authentic voice!‹says anything they wish."

In a press release on April 22, 2006, the Scholars observed that a tape played at the trail of Zacarias Moussaoui included discussion among the passengers about using a drink cart to break down the cabin door alleged to have been picked up on a cockpit voice recorder, which does not record conversations in the passenger cabin. "This is not the first and certainly will not be the last time that the American government plays the American people for suckers," Fetzer said.

"We have just acquired new evidence that the Pentagon video tapes were processed and manipulated in an apparent effort to distort or conceal what happened there on 9/11," Fetzer observed. "Apparently, whenever the government feels the need to bolster the official myth about 9/11, it simply fabricates a new tape! Anybody who wants to keep score
should visit our web site."

Scholars for 9/11 Truth is a non-partisan society of experts and scholars dedicated to exposing falsehoods and establishing truths about the events of 9/11. It maintains a web site at st911.org, where it archives its studies, documents, records and evidence.
 
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See? Incontrovertible proof that Osama is dead, but George Bush is too modest to take credit for turning him into a Tora Bora cave painting. You heard it here first.
 
Did you know Santa Claus isn't real? That there are no such things as fairies or Leprechauns? The tooth fairy is a myth? That there is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?

All of those astounding discoveries upset me when I first found them out. So far nothing you have posted has had the same effect. Amazing, huh?
 
Gringao said:
See? Incontrovertible proof that Osama is dead, but George Bush is too modest to take credit ..

That's because GW Bush had very little to do with Osama bin Laden's death from kidney failure and a lung infection...but would rather pretend that the "Boogeyman" is still alive.

Obvious isn't it?
 
Wow, that’s, that’s – that’s – that’s really…

Never mind.
 
Ever read Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising? This war reeks of someone who read it while they were planning this deception
 
BosozokuX said:
Ever read Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising? This war reeks of someone who read it while they were planning this deception

I have read that. Good point. If they based it on that, they've got real problems ...oh yeah, they do, don't they? :rolleyes:
 
Lovelynice said:
That's because GW Bush had very little to do with Osama bin Laden's death from kidney failure and a lung infection...but would rather pretend that the "Boogeyman" is still alive.

Obvious isn't it?

But couldn't Chimpy say that he had Osama on the run and thus kept him from his dialysis?

Just how crazy are you?
 
Lovelynice said:
1~ Osama bin Laden is NOT on the FBI most wanted list in connection with 911. Why not? According to FBI spokesman, Chief of Investigative Publicity Rex Tomb, “The FBI has no hard evidence connecting Usama Bin Laden to 9/11.” http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4673 http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm (accessed 20 August 2006)
Last I checked OBL was fine and dandy............

http://0la.tripod.com/uhyw/hillary_saddam_bin_sm.jpg
 
Osama does not need to terrorize America as long as Bush does it for him. Bush has his shit so together he is now telling others how to fight their wars. How anyone believes anything these clowns say is beyond me.

Why was the Israeli offensive so screwed up.
http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1204

The right wing, fucking up the Mid East one country at a time.
 
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Honestly... after years of political involvement and analysis, I've concluded that I am, in fact, far too atheist to care. Politics and corruption have served the course of history for thousands of years, why should today be any different? Practically nothing we know is the whole truth, it's a slant told by different storytellers throughout time. We're just witnessing the bastardization of history again. And really... so what?
So this country takes that country over. Big whoop. So our national security may crumble and we'll all be invaded and shot. Not like this hasn't happened thousands of times before, it's just that suddenly we're all butt-hurt when it happens to us. Life is dumb, and so are most people. Relax, have a good coffee, read a good book, write a good song about it, and die.
 
Cease the creation of all sitcoms. We have LN and there is no point trying to top that.
 
Slowlane said:
Wow, that’s, that’s – that’s – that’s really…

Never mind.


Yes, it's horrible to learn that your lies of so many years were blown a long time ago because elsewhere in the world, Osama bin Laden's death was reported in late December 2001.

But in the USA, you don't have a free press because of OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD-type infiltration of the USA media by the CIA, and the type of censorship practiced by the Washington Post.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MOCK/mockingbird.html
 
Lovelynice said:
Yes, it's horrible to learn that your lies of so many years were blown a long time ago because elsewhere in the world, Osama bin Laden's death was reported in late December 2001.

Oh give me a break!

There never was an Osama bin Laden.

He's played by an out-of-work Mexican Actor named Pepito Lopez living in Huntington Beach, California.

Shill.
 
Oliver Clozoff said:
Oh give me a break!

There never was an Osama bin Laden.

He's played by an out-of-work Mexican Actor named Pepito Lopez living in Huntington Beach, California.

Shill.
Cheap labour huh?
 
Oliver Clozoff said:
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A FICTITIOUS GOVERNMENT-CREATED TERRORIST ICON COLLAPSE INTO ITS OWN FOOTPRINT?!?!

SHOW ME ONE!

LOL, you're rapidly becoming my favorite poster to read. :D
 
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