Opposite of cuckolding?

[CharleyH]

You won't find it on Literotica. Every character here is pure and virginal until their 18th birthday and then they turn into an experienced, talented sex-machine - but never one day earlier than that birthday.

Og

LOL - true.

I was trying to think of the opposite of cuckolding ...and the Lit category Loving Wives zipped to mind ... I always thought Loving Wives were those femdoms who forced their hubbies to watch them have sex with big black cocks or football teams (they must be dominant women to get away with it). In this instance, the only opposite to cuckold seems to be male Dom.

 

[Pure]

if everyone's over 18, i don't see a problem, and i suspect the stories already exist.

i call it either male 'topping' of his wife (using a third party), if he's the instigator;

or a young female topping another female, through use of her husband, if the young female 3rd party is the instigator, and the objective is the humiliation of the wife.

 

[temptanddestroy]

Hey there, fellow pervert

There are actually a few of us who share your fantasies of evil seductresses (of legal age) or reluctant husbands.

Most of my fiction goes in Non-consent/Reluctance but it all depends on the story doesn't it? If she's a kinky niece put it in Incest/Taboo, if she's a evil and horny ghost Erotic Horror seems to apply. There's always Erotic Couplings if all else fails.

If you're interested in this kind of thing I'd definitely recommend searching for Wannabeboytoy, who writes fantastically evil temptresses. Evilernie and Neo86 have some fiction like this. Hey, you might even like to give mine a go.

I'd second those who have suggested that you write your own pieces...it's the only way to see the fantasies you want how you want them!!!!

Temptie

 

[juxtaposition33]

Not looking to hijack anything. Just trying to get a sense of (a) where to find stories with this theme and (b) the level of interest there might be in something like this. I appreciate everyone's caution on the "18" thing and I will review the FAQ before submitting anything.

That said, does anybody else want to give this notion a try?

 

[DG Hear]

Jenny, I can't help it!

Personally, I think you should go ahead and write it, then submit it just like you outlined it. After it's rejected you can go to the Story Feedback Forum and post a rant about "First Amendment Rights" and how you are being trod upon by the establishment and all that rot.

It's a right of passage for the more ignorant new writers and we'll all get a good laugh out of it.

I don't know you but I said it before and I'll say it again. You are one witty gal and I love your feedback. You're one of the few reasons I come to the AH to read your latest quip. You crack me up!
DG

 

[Alexandra1979]

LOL - true.

I was trying to think of the opposite of cuckolding ...and the Lit category Loving Wives zipped to mind ... I always thought Loving Wives were those femdoms who forced their hubbies to watch them have sex with big black cocks or football teams (they must be dominant women to get away with it). In this instance, the only opposite to cuckold seems to be male Dom.

Yeah, true....but while I love male Dom, I don't care for that kind of humiliation. It's going too far. I'm just glad that Chris agrees.

 

[JamesSD]

I've read plenty of stories of men groveling in front of their wives and (usually black, well-hung) lovers, often forced to perform the most humiliating acts (cleaning up after being forced to watch wifey get pummeled by a succession of studs). Fine. But what about the other way around?
Anything out there?

Women generally don't have the equivalent fantasy of the "cuckold fetish". I could spend paragraphs speculating about why, but it would be long winded and only moderately interesting, and speculation.

This would be a very difficult story to write well, and I'm not sure the audience for it is that large. Exploring the internal conflict of a woman who gets off on feelings of humiliation at seeing her husband with other women could be an interesting story, but tough not to make the husband seem like an uncaring jerk.

I'm almost sure I've read the occasional MFF threesome story where the third party female Dominates the other woman. That would probably be the best way to frame a story like this - the wife is sexually submissive, but gets a real thrill from allowing herself to be controlled by a woman who is neither bigger nor stronger than her. The husband is mostly along for the ride, practically a prop for the Dom female's enjoyment.

The other option would be a satire of the cliche "Big Black Dick" Loving Wives story, although I'm not sure it would be funny enough to justify the necessary effort.

 

[The_Fool]

I know....

"I kiked in the dor and camed in her fas."

Math Girl....

 

[S-Des]

Women generally don't have the equivalent fantasy of the "cuckold fetish". I could spend paragraphs speculating about why, but it would be long winded and only moderately interesting, and speculation.

This would be a very difficult story to write well, and I'm not sure the audience for it is that large. Exploring the internal conflict of a woman who gets off on feelings of humiliation at seeing her husband with other women could be an interesting story, but tough not to make the husband seem like an uncaring jerk.

I'm almost sure I've read the occasional MFF threesome story where the third party female Dominates the other woman. That would probably be the best way to frame a story like this - the wife is sexually submissive, but gets a real thrill from allowing herself to be controlled by a woman who is neither bigger nor stronger than her. The husband is mostly along for the ride, practically a prop for the Dom female's enjoyment.

The other option would be a satire of the cliche "Big Black Dick" Loving Wives story, although I'm not sure it would be funny enough to justify the necessary effort.

I've seen a number of these stories. They have ranged from LW, to Exhibitionist, to group sex (even NC). Some are fairly erotic, but most are just misogynistic. The best one I've read was a wife who was phased out by one of her friends who began sleeping with her husband after some problem or another. On the whole, people who write those types of stories tend to focus on the humiliation aspect, rather than the sex, so they lose their appeal to the average reader. James, I think you've hit on the only way this would work on a broad spectrum. Finding a way to make the woman so Sub that she actually got off on being humiliated (possibly with the husband acting as a bystander while a 3rd party was the catalyst). Sounds like a BDSM story to me.

 

[Stella_Omega]

... Sounds like a BDSM story to me.

Yeah, I like the cage idea in juxtaposition33's first post- but I like cages

 

[ChristopherMaxwell]

Perhaps this epidemic of sub, cuckold males is Nature's way of dealing with the fact that the male/female ratio is more even than it has been at any other time in our history. Another way of ensuring that the alphas have a reproductive advantage over the betas. I don't know. I just know that I have no use for cuckolding tales or tales of humiliation for spouses. You're supposed to love your partner, not humiliate him or her. Well, of course, some of these want to be humiliated, which raises the quandary of what to do when your lover, the one whom you care for, wishes to be treated this way. As Dom as I am, I can't bring myself to do that. I would still feel guilty over humiliating her.

Mind you, I'm not bashing polyamory, as I'm actually exploring that. But this isn't poly. This is depriving and humiliating a partner, using extracurricular sex in a way that is intended to hurt him or her.

 

[Pure]

to the nattering nabobs of negativism,

s des, being one,

SDOn the whole, people who write those types of stories tend to focus on the humiliation aspect, rather than the sex, so they lose their appeal to the average reader.

james being another:
I'm not sure the audience for it is that large.


so you're saying Lit stories aim at the 'average reader'? (wrong)

or that humiliation doesn't interest the 'average reader'? (so what?)

i'd say if hubby eating a stud's cum out of wife's pussy 'sells' at Literotica, then surely Jux can 'sell' (get) readers for humiliating wife through hubby. n.p.

go for it, jux! all varieties of fetish have their audience, and the less represented varieties deserve their stories aimed at 'us' who are non-average.

find 50 connoisseurs of a given fetish and you're in business!

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a key area of divergence is the hubby's reactions: is he willing? reluctant, but getting into it? resistant? neutral? i could see a shift from reluctance to participation, particularly if some anger toward the wife surfaced.

there are some problems getting the motivations to be plausible. wives do get angry at seeing hubby with another, but the humiliation takes some arranging.

 

[Stella_Omega]

s des, being one,

SDOn the whole, people who write those types of stories tend to focus on the humiliation aspect, rather than the sex, so they lose their appeal to the average reader.

james being another:
I'm not sure the audience for it is that large.


so you're saying Lit stories aim at the 'average reader'? (wrong)

or that humiliation doesn't interest the 'average reader'? (so what?)

i'd say if hubby eating a stud's cum out of wife's pussy 'sells' at Literotica, then surely Jux can 'sell' (get) readers for humiliating wife through hubby. n.p.

go for it, jux! all varieties of fetish have their audience, and the less represented varieties deserve their stories aimed at 'us' who are non-average.

find 50 connoisseurs of a given fetish and you're in business!

Fuck yeah! That's the beauty of the internet, too- that you can find those fifty people.


Hmm, cages... It occurs to me that I've never written a cage story. Wonder why not?

 

[Pure]

here's a slight variant

her surprise,
miyelo ina,


http://www.literotica.com:81/stories/showstory.php?id=9701


dom hubby has subby wife 'taken' by an aggressive lesbian, humbiliating her.

 

[Pure]

jux said, I've been trying to find stories where a teen girl - or group of teen girls - enjoy a husband and completely violate the woman's world: fucking in her bed (on her pillow) while she's off at work or church, sucking hubby's cock in the living room while the old ball-and-chain tries desperately to fix herself up upstairs, or using her taut, young body and sexy clothes (snug shorts, tank tops, tight jeans) to cocktease the guy knowing that his poor wife can't possibly compete. Or even worse (better): actually riding his cock cowgirl style while pulling the wife's hair and forcing her to lick her teen clit and the guy's cock, balls and ass. What about having wifey locked in a cage? What about being forced to watch her sexy, younger sister suck and fuck hubby? Most attempts at this kind of fem-dom end up being mostly lesbian stuff. I'm looking for downright sexual humilation for the wife...at the hands of a hot little home-wrecking teen bitch. Could be the daughter or a babysitter. Could be someone 13 or college age. Just something to put wifey in her place and give hubby what he craves: hot, teen pussy.

reflecting on this, it's not really the counterpart of a 'cuckold story.'

there are two basic kinds of cuckold story: a) one where a wife humiliate hubby through exhibition with her lover; c)a second where the hubby instigates the wife's involvement and his own subordination.

it is distinct from 'cuckold' c)if a man, the third party and initiator, aggressively 'takes the wife' of another man to humiliate him. that's a kind of rape/humiliate partner story.

this is what jux describes; the young woman is going to take the hubby to humiliate his wife.

IF there were to be some equivalent, we'd have to have the husband set it up, to humilate his wife through fucking the baby sitter--type a). or b)have a wife into humiliation set up the hubby's doing the sitter in from of her.

 

[ChristopherMaxwell]

jux said, I've been trying to find stories where a teen girl - or group of teen girls - enjoy a husband and completely violate the woman's world: fucking in her bed (on her pillow) while she's off at work or church, sucking hubby's cock in the living room while the old ball-and-chain tries desperately to fix herself up upstairs, or using her taut, young body and sexy clothes (snug shorts, tank tops, tight jeans) to cocktease the guy knowing that his poor wife can't possibly compete. Or even worse (better): actually riding his cock cowgirl style while pulling the wife's hair and forcing her to lick her teen clit and the guy's cock, balls and ass. What about having wifey locked in a cage? What about being forced to watch her sexy, younger sister suck and fuck hubby? Most attempts at this kind of fem-dom end up being mostly lesbian stuff. I'm looking for downright sexual humilation for the wife...at the hands of a hot little home-wrecking teen bitch. Could be the daughter or a babysitter. Could be someone 13 or college age. Just something to put wifey in her place and give hubby what he craves: hot, teen pussy.

reflecting on this, it's not really the counterpart of a 'cuckold story.'

there are two basic kinds of cuckold story: a) one where a wife humiliate hubby through exhibition with her lover; c)a second where the hubby instigates the wife's involvement and his own subordination.

it is distinct from 'cuckold' c)if a man, the third party and initiator, aggressively 'takes the wife' of another man to humiliate him. that's a kind of rape/humiliate partner story.

this is what jux describes; the young woman is going to take the hubby to humiliate his wife.

IF there were to be some equivalent, we'd have to have the husband set it up, to humilate his wife through fucking the baby sitter--type a). or b)have a wife into humiliation set up the hubby's doing the sitter in from of her.

Clever distinctions, Pure.

 

[juxtaposition33]

I've actually tried to imagine this threesome from all three angles. One perspective has the selfish male humiliating his (presumably - boring - wife) to "teach her a lesson" and so forth. Another angle is the wife eager to be submissive and grovel at the feet of her dom hubby and some opportunistic little bitch. And a third is the young girl herself, thrilled with her budding new body and the way she can drive the guy crazy while putting the wife down. Now there are any number of permutations:

Does the hubby and the babysitter sneak around...maybe having an afternoon fuck in the very bed where the wife will give head later? Does the teen - pissed at a female teacher, perhaps - seduce the teacher's husband and then humiliate and blackmail the teacher (pics, video, etc.)? Is there an incest angle here, with the young cock teaser moving from cute little soccer gal to vixen, pushing mom out of the way and taking over daddy's affections? Could hubby have married the woman - knowing she was sub - only to get to the daughter and have his fun? Could the wife - knowing HER teacher-husband was surrounded by all kinds of hot high school girls, and feeling certain bi tendencies (along with being sub) try to orchestrate the infidelity and her own demise?

You can see I could tire myself out on all of these...but I've actually tried to see this through all three perspectives and frankly, I think they could all be hot.

Anybody have any thoughts about which one is hotter than any other? I'll tell you, to be honest, the perspective of the girl is the one that I think is the most unique (or to put it another way, the one I haven't yet seen...with the exception of one story by a "Kristin Marie" a few years ago. Yes, there's plenty of dom/sub stuff in the P.Phantom tomes of the late 90's, and plenty of twisted sado stuff by a "dale 10" that I've caught now and again, but the idea of a teen hottie, relatively bored with younger guys and fully knowing she can cock tease the daylights out of a married guy and wreck his wife's world...well, that's the one that's been...um..."delightfully tormenting."

Takers? Comments?

 

[Stella_Omega]

I've actually tried to imagine this threesome from all three angles. One perspective has the selfish male humiliating his (presumably - boring - wife) to "teach her a lesson" and so forth. Another angle is the wife eager to be submissive and grovel at the feet of her dom hubby and some opportunistic little bitch. And a third is the young girl herself, thrilled with her budding new body and the way she can drive the guy crazy while putting the wife down. Now there are any number of permutations:

Does the hubby and the babysitter sneak around...maybe having an afternoon fuck in the very bed where the wife will give head later? Does the teen - pissed at a female teacher, perhaps - seduce the teacher's husband and then humiliate and blackmail the teacher (pics, video, etc.)? Is there an incest angle here, with the young cock teaser moving from cute little soccer gal to vixen, pushing mom out of the way and taking over daddy's affections? Could hubby have married the woman - knowing she was sub - only to get to the daughter and have his fun? Could the wife - knowing HER teacher-husband was surrounded by all kinds of hot high school girls, and feeling certain bi tendencies (along with being sub) try to orchestrate the infidelity and her own demise?

You can see I could tire myself out on all of these...but I've actually tried to see this through all three perspectives and frankly, I think they could all be hot.

Anybody have any thoughts about which one is hotter than any other? I'll tell you, to be honest, the perspective of the girl is the one that I think is the most unique (or to put it another way, the one I haven't yet seen...with the exception of one story by a "Kristin Marie" a few years ago. Yes, there's plenty of dom/sub stuff in the P.Phantom tomes of the late 90's, and plenty of twisted sado stuff by a "dale 10" that I've caught now and again, but the idea of a teen hottie, relatively bored with younger guys and fully knowing she can cock tease the daylights out of a married guy and wreck his wife's world...well, that's the one that's been...um..."delightfully tormenting."

Takers? Comments?

Write them all! Duh...

but seriously, many authors do just that- explore every permutation of some given situation.

 

[rosco rathbone]

What I'd be curious to know is what category this kind of story fits. That's why my original post had the "Opposite of Cuckold" title. Perhaps that's not quite the right description for something involving power, humiliation, jealousy, age, and potentially a few other twisted things, but whether it's for publishing through Literotica or some other venue, I'm not sure where it falls. Any ideas?

It sounds quite good. One of my pervs is the idea of making emotionally-connected females witness others service me.

 

[FallingToFly]

Some women out there would call this "My Divorce"

I agree, throw it into "Loving Wives"; that's where all the domestic dispute stories go.

(Why do they call it "Loving"? Must be sarcasm)

Stella-

I wish I could explain what this post makes me want to just hug your gorgeous neck and ruffle your hair like my favorite student, but I can't. So

And Cloudy. Can I borrow your attitude for about two years? I need it.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Stella-

I wish I could explain what this post makes me want to just hug your gorgeous neck and ruffle your hair like my favorite student, but I can't. So

And Cloudy. Can I borrow your attitude for about two years? I need it.

 

[ChristopherMaxwell]

Stella-

I wish I could explain what this post makes me want to just hug your gorgeous neck and ruffle your hair like my favorite student, but I can't. So

And Cloudy. Can I borrow your attitude for about two years? I need it.

Bad enough in literature, but I can stomach people writing it. That kind of humiliation in reality skirts abuse, if you ask me. There's swinging and then there is putting down one's lover by comparing one to them. That sort of thing makes my blood boil. I don't deem those people legitimate swingers; they are psychological abusers.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Bad enough in literature, but I can stomach people writing it. That kind of humiliation in reality skirts abuse, if you ask me. There's swinging and then there is putting down one's lover by comparing one to them. That sort of thing makes my blood boil. I don't deem those people legitimate swingers; they are psychological abusers.

well, yeah. Abuse is abuse.

 

[gauchecritic]

Bad enough in literature, but I can stomach people writing it. That kind of humiliation in reality skirts abuse, if you ask me. There's swinging and then there is putting down one's lover by comparing one to them. That sort of thing makes my blood boil. I don't deem those people legitimate swingers; they are psychological abusers.

Which means that the stories in LW that concentrate on the cuckolding aspect (which really riles the trolls) is also abuse. A cuckold doesn't need to be present at all to have that label, only the wife and cuckolder need know.

When the husband is present or being told later and there is no consent on his part, then that comes under abuse too.

 

[wehstar]

Well I think it's a good idea. I will never have time, but when I do, I'll write it. It seems to me that perhaps the best avenue is for the wife to be somehow associated with these 18 year old cuties. Probably like their teacher, or a coach from their sport team, do cheerleaders have coaches? Anyway, she is meant to be in charge until she pisses the girls off. They use the husband to get to her. Of course in my version it would have to end in the wife enjoying it in some sort of perverse way.