Opinions please: Incest?

[charlien]

I was involved with a lady a while back for a short time who said to me once, "I slept with my father when I was 12 for a year with my mother sleeping in a seperate bedroom." I asked if there was any incest inolved and she said no.

She was quite fucked up I soon discovered. An alcoholic of the first order and lied all the time and thought nothing of it. She was married though her husband had left her, I now understand why!

Her concept of love was more along the lines of, "What will you do for me", rather than a sharing with and caring for another person.

Her father took care of her financially while we were together, she did work but her father made sure she had what ever she wanted. He still does today, 5 years after we parted company.

thanks

 

[peachykeen]

not exactly sure what is is you want an opinion about there, pal. If your questoin is; "Does this seem a bit fucked up to you?" well, then, yeah, it does.

 

[MissTaken]

Well, some of her behaviors may be attributed to incest. (Assuming you mean they had sexual relations when you say they "slept" together."

Others may simply be part of her character, with or without having slept with her father.

We do learn much about how to conduct adult relationships from our parents. At that age, it is likely that if her father was having sex with her, there were some rewards or conditions involved.

Many victims of childhood incest learn how to use sex as a means to get their needs met as opposed to being an expression of affection and intimacy. Even if the incest was based on fear..."You do this or I am telling your mom" "You do this or I will hurt you"

They recognize the conditions placed on sexuality.

I have seen nine year olds who learned how to get a new dress by giving their daddy sexual gratification.

Without treatment, some of those values and lessons can carry into adulthood.

Then, the alcholism may be related to incest or heredity. It is difficult to tell.

I hope that my comments are not offensive to anyone who was the victim of childhood incest. I am speaking in general terms and every person is different.

 

[bknight2602]

not exactly sure what is is you want an opinion about there, pal. If your questoin is; "Does this seem a bit fucked up to you?" well, then, yeah, it does.

Exactly.

 

[patient1]

My opinion on incest:

Opposed.

 

[nicholasgreek]

Opinion

My opinion on incest:

Opposed.

Opposed too.

 

[LordLucan74]

I was involved with a lady a while back for a short time who said to me once, "I slept with my father when I was 12 for a year with my mother sleeping in a seperate bedroom." I asked if there was any incest inolved and she said no.

She was quite fucked up I soon discovered. An alcoholic of the first order and lied all the time and thought nothing of it. She was married though her husband had left her, I now understand why!

Her concept of love was more along the lines of, "What will you do for me", rather than a sharing with and caring for another person.

Her father took care of her financially while we were together, she did work but her father made sure she had what ever she wanted. He still does today, 5 years after we parted company.

thanks

She is not fucked up, she is a TYPICAL female...when she can finally get more from someone else than from "dear dad", then he will be dispatched.

You are simply sore that you could not provide enough financially to compensate, thus you feel a failure.

Get over it!!! And then, before you "kick it" else-where, get a better job..at least $50,000/annum

Or grow a bigger dick

For every inch over 8, you can deduct $10,000

 

[MissTaken]

Re: Re: Opinions please: Incest?

She is not fucked up, she is a TYPICAL female...when she can finally get more from someone else than from "dear dad", then he will be dispatched.

I certainly hope that your tongue is firmly planted in your cheek with these comments.

Because they are utter crap.

 

[Lancecastor]

I was involved with a lady a while back for a short time who said to me once, "I slept with my father when I was 12 for a year with my mother sleeping in a seperate bedroom." I asked if there was any incest inolved and she said no.

She was quite fucked up I soon discovered. An alcoholic of the first order and lied all the time and thought nothing of it. She was married though her husband had left her, I now understand why!

Her concept of love was more along the lines of, "What will you do for me", rather than a sharing with and caring for another person.

Her father took care of her financially while we were together, she did work but her father made sure she had what ever she wanted. He still does today, 5 years after we parted company.

thanks

Does she post here?

Sounds like....hmmmm...most of the Cluque*.

Lance
















* The Clique Hens Auxiliary

 

[LordLucan74]

Re: Re: Re: Opinions please: Incest?

I certainly hope that your tongue is firmly planted in your cheek with these comments.

Because they are utter crap.

I could hardly type them I was laughing so furiously!!!

But, facts are stubborn things, yes?

 

[Lancecastor]

Re: Re: Re: Opinions please: Incest?

She is not fucked up, she is a TYPICAL female...when she can finally get more from someone else than from "dear dad", then he will be dispatched.

You are simply sore that you could not provide enough financially to compensate, thus you feel a failure.

Get over it!!! And then, before you "kick it" else-where, get a better job..at least $50,000/annum

Or grow a bigger dick

For every inch over 8, you can deduct $10,000

I certainly hope that your tongue is firmly planted in your cheek with these comments.

Because they are utter crap.

I thought you said you were a social worker or something....if you even took social anthropology 101 you would know that women still measure their mate by the ideal of daddy and that the ability to "provide" is still a huge draw in what makes a man an attractive potential mate.

The only crap here is your inability to reconcile your natural feelings with the propoganda fed you by angry spinsters and lesbians.

 

[nitelite33]

Opinions please: Incest?

This isn't even a moral issue really... Genetics have been telling us this is a no-no for years.

There was an interesting documentary about this a few years back.

 

[hogjack]

Had I been born into a different family...

I am generally against incest...
unless Sheryl Crow would have been my sibling.

In that case my vote would change to "pro" incest [between consenting...blah, blah, blah].

 

[Monazwx]

I was involved with a lady a while back for a short time who said to me once, "I slept with my father when I was 12 for a year with my mother sleeping in a seperate bedroom." I asked if there was any incest inolved and she said no.

She was quite fucked up I soon discovered. An alcoholic of the first order and lied all the time and thought nothing of it. She was married though her husband had left her, I now understand why!

Her concept of love was more along the lines of, "What will you do for me", rather than a sharing with and caring for another person.

Her father took care of her financially while we were together, she did work but her father made sure she had what ever she wanted. He still does today, 5 years after we parted company.

thanks

The mother allowing that to continue is particulary disturbing.
Which is probably why the lady feels justified in her behavior.

Incest = Wrong (so wrong in this case)

 

[Guest]

 

[Sillyman]

Addicts of all stripes use people. They don't need to have slept with their fathers first.

 

[plesmone]

I was involved with a lady a while back for a short time who said to me once, "I slept with my father when I was 12 for a year with my mother sleeping in a seperate bedroom." I asked if there was any incest inolved and she said no.

She was quite fucked up I soon discovered. An alcoholic of the first order and lied all the time and thought nothing of it. She was married though her husband had left her, I now understand why!

Her concept of love was more along the lines of, "What will you do for me", rather than a sharing with and caring for another person.

Her father took care of her financially while we were together, she did work but her father made sure she had what ever she wanted. He still does today, 5 years after we parted company.

thanks

Not so much a question of incest, but rather of child abuse - 12 yer old girls have no business sleeping with any man, regarless of relationship.

 

[charlien]

I shoul probably point out...

that I was 55 and she 34 when this took place. She was the last of 5 siblings and her father would have been about my age when she was 12. Her father and I were similar in heighth, weight and build and I had white hair as did he when she was 12.

After our first night in bed together she made quite an issue out of the fact that we had not "fucked" in the traditional sense. Now understand that's about the only thing we hadn't done and we'd both had numerous orgasms.

It was as if only traditional penis in pussy counted as really having sex.

charlie

 

[MissTaken]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Opinions please: Incest?

I thought you said you were a social worker or something....if you even took social anthropology 101 you would know that women still measure their mate by the ideal of daddy and that the ability to "provide" is still a huge draw in what makes a man an attractive potential mate.

The only crap here is your inability to reconcile your natural feelings with the propoganda fed you by angry spinsters and lesbians.

we aren't talking antropology.

The question seemed to be doe this gal's having been abused had anything to do with the her life's fuck ups.

That answer is, it damn sure well could be.

Her behaviors are consistent with that of adult victims of child sexual abuse.

Her behaviours are also consistent with "spoiled brat" syndrome.

However, this behaviour is not "TYPICAL", per LordL.

To say it happens, is a truth. To generalize all women in this category is crap.

*shrugs*

 

[peachykeen]

Charlie, why have you started this thread yet again, is what I am truly wondering. You started an identical thread with exactly the same post back in October, and here is a quote of yours from another thread as well:


"MissTaken...
...four of the dozen or so lovers I've had in the past twenty years have admitted to incestual involvement with their fathers. The activities ranged from watching him masturbate to being coerced into performing oral sex to actual intercourse.

So from my admittedly limited and unscientific sample, 1/3 of the females have experienced sex with their fathers. I'll say here too that none looked back on it with fond memories.

Having said the above I will admit I have a fascination with the subject and find it erotically stimulating to read about and imagine various scenarios."


So charlie, what exactly is it you want here?

 

[MissTaken]

Thanks peachkeen!

I thought this all seemed vaguely familiar.

Hmm so is he getting his rocks off while I post?

Damn. Taken again!

 

[nitelite33]

YIKES!

Thanks for the 411 Peachykeen, time to smoke some chiba and shake this crawling feeling I have on my spine.

 

[peachykeen]

Thanks peachkeen!

I thought this all seemed vaguely familiar.

Hmm so is he getting his rocks off while I post?

Damn. Taken again!

mmmm. After I responded, I thought to myself it all just seemed way too familiar, like I'd read exactly the same words before. So after I had a nap and did a little housework I ran a search and lo and behold, guess what I found...

Creepy, huh? Pervy, and not in the good fun way, either...

 

[Quiet_Cool]

Well, some of her behaviors may be attributed to incest. (Assuming you mean they had sexual relations when you say they "slept" together."

Others may simply be part of her character, with or without having slept with her father.

We do learn much about how to conduct adult relationships from our parents. At that age, it is likely that if her father was having sex with her, there were some rewards or conditions involved.

Many victims of childhood incest learn how to use sex as a means to get their needs met as opposed to being an expression of affection and intimacy. Even if the incest was based on fear..."You do this or I am telling your mom" "You do this or I will hurt you"

They recognize the conditions placed on sexuality.

I have seen nine year olds who learned how to get a new dress by giving their daddy sexual gratification.

Without treatment, some of those values and lessons can carry into adulthood.

Then, the alcholism may be related to incest or heredity. It is difficult to tell.

I hope that my comments are not offensive to anyone who was the victim of childhood incest. I am speaking in general terms and every person is different.

Absolutely...you have a gift for this sort of interpretation, MissTaken, whether it be in your area of profession or not. Most likely, if something went on with her father when she was younger, it would have caused these side-effects, and no, while these traits are more common among people, not just women, than we should hope, they are not typical of women. Truth be told, however, most of your story in concerns of this girl and her father seemed to be based in hearsay, which makes the statements irrelevant in consideration of her other difficulties. She might be full of shit, as Emerald_eyed has pointed out, or mentally ill and this story is merely a side-effect.