Only in the US.

[Pure]

or a part thereof.

it seems talk of overthrowing the government will now be allowed *without registration*... i wonder why...


SC bill would get rid of filing law for terrorists

By SEANNA ADCOX (AP) – 20 hours ago

COLUMBIA, S.C. — In South Carolina, any group that plans to overthrow the federal government — or any other government in the U.S. — must register its activities.

It's the law.

Now some state legislators are looking to repeal it.

State Sen. Larry Martin said Monday the 1951 McCarthy-era statute that's meant to deter communists is one more thing making South Carolina look bad, since bloggers and talk radio picked up on it last month. A misconception spread that the statute, on the books for nearly six decades, had only recently become law.

Legislators said some constituents in this deeply red state were concerned it was aimed at conservative activists.

"Nothing could be further from the truth," said Martin, R-Pickens. The law was enacted "at a time they thought it was the best response to the communist scare. It's long outlived its usefulness, if ever it had one."

His bill to repeal it comes up for debate this week in a Senate panel.

 

[3113]

or a part thereof.

it seems talk of overthrowing the government will now be allowed *without registration*...

So...people who want to overthrow the government are upset that there's a law about registering if you want to overthrow the government. They'll feel better if that law is off the books....

This makes me feel better about the people who want to overthrow the government. I don't think they can quite get it together to succeed if they have the time to be upset about such a law--or imagine that if overthrowing the government is their aim, they have to follow it....

And ain't it ironic that when commies wanna overthrow the U.S. there's a law put down and when ultra-conservatives want to do the same, they want the law repealed...

 

[rgraham666]

But, but, ultra-conservatives are good people who are only concerned with making the U.S. a better place whereas commies intend to destroy it.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

That was one of the reasons I didn't move there when it became apparent my army of ultra conservative soldiers wanted to overthrow the current administration. I mean having to register my and their intent in advance just seems so invasive. I mean where's the surprise in that!

 

[3113]

That was one of the reasons I didn't move there when it became apparent my army of ultra conservative soldiers wanted to overthrow the current administration. I mean having to register my and their intent in advance just seems so invasive. I mean where's the surprise in that!

Very wise of you, Zeb. I mean, this is why South Carolina commies had so little success overthrowing the government back in the 1950's (South Carolina was a hot bed of radical communists back then, you know. Good thing that law as on the books or SC would have fallen to the Russians! ).

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Very wise of you, Zeb. I mean, this is why South Carolina commies had so little success overthrowing the government back in the 1950's (South Carolina was a hot bed of radical communists back then, you know. Good thing that law as on the books or SC would have fallen to the Russians! ).

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[voluptuary_manque]

Where's LaRocha to wade in on this nonsense?

 

[Handley_Page]

Where's LaRocha to wade in on this nonsense?

in the "ignore" list

 

[3113]

Where's LaRocha to wade in on this nonsense?

Registering as someone who wants to overthrow the government?

 

[mynameisben]

I don't think it's as much of a deterrent to overthrowing the government by requiring registration of intent as it is the enormous fines that will be imposed if the nogoodniks succeed.

 

[Huckleman2000]

I realize that this whole thing is utter nonsense from it's start in the 1950s to the present, and yet I understand it.

 

[Freefall_mc]

Senator Martin would also like to put the state's Lieutenant Governor and the Governor on the same ticket. Or, if he can't have his way, do away with the Lieutenant Governor position altogether.
Wonder what he's thinking.

 

[3113]

Senator Martin would also like to put the state's Lieutenant Governor and the Governor on the same ticket. Or, if he can't have his way, do away with the Lieutenant Governor position altogether.
Wonder what he's thinking.

Hm. Sounds like he's afraid someone's going to get elected Lt. Governor who'll won't be friendly to the Governor Senator Martin hopes to get elected (or re-elected) and if so, then there go whatever plans Senator Martin has cooked up with this Governor of choice....

 

[Zeb_Carter]

A Lt. Gov is like a Vice Pres, no real power until the head dick gets whacked or resigns. So I don't see the point in his problem or his bill except he may run for Lt. Gov and then have the Gov whacked.

 

[Dragonlipz]

Right wingnuts have rights too......

 

[3113]

Right wingnuts have rights too......

More than left wingnuts apparently. Would any commies have been listened to if they'd protested this law over the last sixty years? I think not. But righties get all outraged and suddenly they're allowed to plot the overthrow of the government without having to register. So unfair!

 

[DeeZire]

3113 - what you fail to understand is motivation. If a Commie wishes to overthrow the government, it is for nefarious purposes - for example, to make sure children don't go hungry and everyone gets healthcare. If a Right wingnut wishes to overthrow the government, it's patriotic, because they're protecting our Freedom, and those Americans who have managed to hold onto a job should not be enslaved by the demands of the common good (especially the common good of the immigrants and non-whites among us.)

In other words, Commies hate freedom, while Patriots love freedom so much, they'll kill for it. Patriots will gladly kill the unemployed by denying them the food and healthcare they can't afford. That may sound crass, but our Patriots do have standards guiding their life or death decisions. For example, they won't let the unemployed abort their unwanted children. Of course, once the unwanted unborn are actually born, then it's okay for them to die of hunger, since it is the free will of the children that leads them to an empty breakfast table when their parents lose their jobs and can no longer afford food.

So that's it in a nutshell - Freedom is more important than Life. Makes perfect sense to me.

Funny thing - after writing this, I suddenly understand the motivation of people like Amicus and his ilk. The utter sense of power when defending Freedom is quite intoxicating. Why, I have a mind to load my Colt 45 and drive through South Tucson, taking potshots at the homeless, who are threatening our Freedom by their very existence. Then perhaps I'll go on the internet and learn how to make a abortion clinic bomb, since I'm pretty sure there are at least a couple of Planned Parenthood clinics in this town. (I wonder if an abortion clinic bomb is different from your ordinary run-of-the-mill bomb?)

Did I mention I have a sudden urge to move to South Carolina? I already have a couple of baseball caps and a pickup truck. (Is it okay for a Patriot to drive a 18 year-old Nissan?)

 

[Zeb_Carter]

More than left wingnuts apparently. Would any commies have been listened to if they'd protested this law over the last sixty years? I think not. But righties get all outraged and suddenly they're allowed to plot the overthrow of the government without having to register. So unfair!

It's the right of every citizen of the US to plot and try to overthrow the government...it sez so in the constitution! And you can't do that very well if you have to register.

 

[3113]

Did I mention I have a sudden urge to move to South Carolina? I already have a couple of baseball caps and a pickup truck. (Is it okay for a Patriot to drive a 18 year-old Nissan?)

You'll have to register your plot to overthrow the government if you're driving a Nissan. I think that law is still on the books.

 

[DeeZire]

It's the right of every citizen of the US to plot and try to overthrow the government...it sez so in the constitution! And you can't do that very well if you have to register.

See? This is exactly what I'm talking about! We are not Americans, we are Free People. It is our duty to protect our Freedom, even if it means committing terrorism against our elected leaders - or anyone who dares to support the type of human rights that impinge upon our Freedoms.

(I wish Zeb would take me off ignore so we could bond and talk about guns and ammo and stuff. I'm finding it difficult to remain focused on Freedom without the help of the mob mentality that enables good people to do bad things to other good people.)

 

[The_Fool]

Had me thinking of Fort Sumter.

 

[cloudy]

Had me thinking of Fort Sumter.

War of Northern Aggression. *nods*

 

[stephen55]

it almost sounded good

It's the right of every citizen of the US to plot and try to overthrow the government...it sez so in the constitution! And you can't do that very well if you have to register.

Trying to overthrow the government........isn't that what elections are all about? And don't you have to be registered to vote?

Hey.......take away the voter's registry...no more voters...no more elections...ummmm, somethings not adding up...WTF...my head hurts!!

 

[xssve]

It probably has soemthing to do with this; Mother Jones: Oath Keepers and the Age of Treason

There are scores of patriot groups, but what makes Oath Keepers unique is that its core membership consists of men and women in uniform, including soldiers, police, and veterans. At regular ceremonies in every state, members reaffirm their official oaths of service, pledging to protect the Constitution—but then they go a step further, vowing to disobey "unconstitutional" orders from what they view as an increasingly tyrannical government.

Having fought so long and hard to establish unilateral power for the executive office, and the monarchical presidency, they're going to now use it as an excuse to overthrow the government and establish the constitutional democracy they destroyed to begin with.

This time, I'm sure, that means the strict constructionist version, which means we can Cherry pick the Bill of Rights and the statutes for "judicial activism"and have slavery again.

 

[rgraham666]

Hell is pleased with The Oath Keepers.