One bombed

[RejectReality]

Hi
Thanks
Which screen has the option?
I looked at "My profile" and "My options". Couldn't see anything

On "Works/My Stories" and public profile as I view it there is an AZ. Isn't that just what I can see so while it's confirmation for me it's not visibility for others?

Sorry, I didn't mean to be confusing. It's not a setting that you can change so that everyone defaults to seeing your alphabetical list instead of the latest release. I only meant to check the tab on your public profile to see if it appears when your stories are listed alphabetically.

If the latest release is this one: https://www.literotica.com/s/4-bus-bath-and-clamps-off

Then it's showing for me on the public side no matter which tab you view it on.

 

[WhenPreNut]

I'm also not a sensitive author an

I started posting because there was a lot in the space I was drawn to where there was disrespect shown to between characters. Normally one way.

That doesn't 'float my boat' so I wrote my own. After a while I wondered if I shared it would others appreciate it.

Really that takes comments not stars to say.
The initial bombing was a surprise - call me naive but I hadn't considered there'd be fuck-wittery but clearly there is.

Now I've ¿realised? that just fling it out there, enjoy the writing, use follows and favourites as the only benchmark and forget the stars.

Now if lit just published % of readers finishing, following or favouriting that might say something but I've set aside a metric that is deliberately screwed by some toddler mentality.

3¢

 

[IWroteThis]

One fix that no one wants to hear, and I understand why but would still consider it is to eliminate anonymous ability to vote and comment. You can read but to do anything beyond that you have to have a user ID. It would cut down on bombs and definitely the nasty comments because even though we're still not using real names with a handle, the trolls need that extra layer of protection. Imagine how that would clean up the toxicity of LW

But yes, there are a lot of good anon votes and comments and we'd lose those but there's always the hope that some decent anon folks would take the plunge and sign up.

Going further if lit required a handle to get into the site even just to read that would further push people to create an account or they lose the biggest and best source of free stories on the net.

It will never happen, but neither will any other suggestion here so just putting it out there.

So, you would burn down the house to kill a spider? If so, here's an easier fire to light:

Remove the top lists and change the remaining contests to projects.

If you remove the main incentive to 1* bomb stories, the remaining 1* ratings are more likely to be legitimate.

 

[lovecraft68]

So, you would burn down the house to kill a spider? If so, here's an easier fire to light:

Remove the top lists and change the remaining contests to projects.

If you remove the main incentive to 1* bomb stories, the remaining 1* ratings are more likely to be legitimate.

I don't know what you mean by projects.

I think if you removed top lists the trolls would just move on to something else. They're an adapt or die kind of cockaroach.

As for my suggestion, the one bombing and trolling everyone wants to find a way to do away with doesn't bother me so everything can stay the same as far as I'm concerned-and will-I just put the idea out there. It would be an exchange of quality over quantity. Reject Reality and I disagree on this, he feels the trolls would sign up and the good readers wouldn't, I think the nasty comment type trolls would not sign up because they want nothing attached to their spew.

Never going to find out.

 

[IWroteThis]

I don't know what you mean by projects.

The 750 Word Project is an example. It's not a competition, so there are no prizes. There's no ranking, so there's no real benefit to manipulating ratings. There are probably other words for it, but since that is the one non-contest I regularly participate in, that was the word I used.

I think if you removed top lists the trolls would just move on to something else. They're an adapt or die kind of cockaroach.

Possibly, but that would mean that the trolling is the end rather than the means to an end, in which case they will still put in the effort to get around any hurdles.

As for my suggestion, the one bombing and trolling everyone wants to find a way to do away with doesn't bother me so everything can stay the same as far as I'm concerned-and will-I just put the idea out there.

You seem to have confused me for somebody else, as I mostly laugh at the egos getting bent out of shape every time they get a 1* rating. I think 1* bombing to manipulate contests and top lists is deplorable, but I also think that a lot of what is called 1* bombing is actually just people giving honest feedback. I'm certainly not advocating for drastic measures, as I was just playing Devil's advocate to rebut your suggestion.

It would be an exchange of quality over quantity. Reject Reality and I disagree on this, he feels the trolls would sign up and the good readers wouldn't, I think the nasty comment type trolls would not sign up because they want nothing attached to their spew.

I have to agree with Reject Reality on this one. It's not that hard to get a lot of free e-mail addresses, and I would guess that if you knew where to look you could find ready-made scripts to automate multi-account voting on Literotica stories. If not, there quickly would be, as the simpler scripts that exist would get upgraded.

Then, considering the number of people who don't bother to rate stories currently, plus the number of people who undoubtedly visit the site in an incognito/private window, I would expect a significant number of readers to just forego commenting and rating. There is simply no benefit to offset the hassle of registering.

Personally, I don't have accounts on every site I visit. I already have too many accounts in my password safe, so I need a better reason to add a new one.

Never going to find out.

That, I can't argue with.

The same people who yell the loudest about 1* ratings would absolutely blow their gaskets if their highly inflated ratings were replaced with a simple thumbs up or thumbs up/down system.

 

[lovecraft68]

You seem to have confused me for somebody else, as I mostly laugh at the egos getting bent out of shape every time they get a 1* rating. I think 1* bombing to manipulate contests and top lists is deplorable, but I also think that a lot of what is called 1* bombing is actually just people giving honest feedback. I'm certainly not advocating for drastic measures, as I was just playing Devil's advocate to rebut your suggestion.

I wasn't directing my comment about me not caring at you as if you do, just making a statement as to why I don't go nuts trying to solve this "something must be done' hysteria that a few people here have.

Want to really raise hell? Monetize the site. $4.99 to read unlimited stories and be able to vote and comment and post on the forums.

Its not a lot of money but in order to pay some information needs to be tied to your account paypal a CC etc...and people will be a lot less likely to sling the nastiness they do now under anon. I bet the Politics forum would turn into tumbleweeds damn quick. Be a lot less personals and other forum creepers going around as well.

Again, never going to happen, I'm just tweaking.

 

[IWroteThis]

I wasn't directing my comment about me not caring at you as if you do, just making a statement as to why I don't go nuts trying to solve this "something must be done' hysteria that a few people here have.

My bad. I took that differently.

Want to really raise hell? Monetize the site. $4.99 to read unlimited stories and be able to vote and comment and post on the forums.

Now that is burning down the whole damn town to kill the spider in your house!

Its not a lot of money but in order to pay some information needs to be tied to your account paypal a CC etc...and people will be a lot less likely to sling the nastiness they do now under anon.

Yeah, because most of them wouldn't be here. Literotica has a lot of value as a free site, but they would need to do some major updating, bug fixing, and actual customer service to justify charging such a fee.

If you mean forcing the writers to pay as well, that would kill more than the forums.

I bet the Politics forum would turn into tumbleweeds damn quick. Be a lot less personals and other forum creepers going around as well.

I can't say I would even notice that. I keep this forum open, because I'm apparently a pain slut. Otherwise, I check the Site News & Tech Support when I experience issues. Looking at the list just now, I see there's an Editor's Forum that I might check out. I might need to visit How To… some day, but I don't see myself visiting any of the others.

Again, never going to happen, I'm just tweaking.

And I'm putting off working on my stories. I can only have Word read me the same story so many times a day before I hate everything I wrote, but if I switch to a WiP I'm still writing, I know it will be harder to come back to it. So, I refresh Author's Hangout…

 

[lovecraft68]

My bad. I took that differently.


Now that is burning down the whole damn town to kill the spider in your house!


Yeah, because most of them wouldn't be here. Literotica has a lot of value as a free site, but they would need to do some major updating, bug fixing, and actual customer service to justify charging such a fee.

If you mean forcing the writers to pay as well, that would kill more than the forums.


I can't say I would even notice that. I keep this forum open, because I'm apparently a pain slut. Otherwise, I check the Site News & Tech Support when I experience issues. Looking at the list just now, I see there's an Editor's Forum that I might check out. I might need to visit How To… some day, but I don't see myself visiting any of the others.


And I'm putting off working on my stories. I can only have Word read me the same story so many times a day before I hate everything I wrote, but if I switch to a WiP I'm still writing, I know it will be harder to come back to it. So, I refresh Author's Hangout…

I've played out the monetizing a bit in my mind. Authors don't pay in the same way women generally don't pay on personals sites because if you don't have women none of the horn dog men will sign up. So, you need new stories to charge hence authors don't pay and can read etc...

The other thing would be if money is coming in, it needs to be spent on tech and other improvements and contests would pay more and I'd try to figure out some other author rewards.

That's if I hit powerball and make Laurel a sick offer so I'd have something to do with myself.

Heh...I started a story yesterday morning, looked at it today and wiped it out before my eyes boiled in my head. Teach me to try to force something.

 

[Adam_Sephenson]

I wonder if someone is capable of creating a bot and getting it to go through stories and 1-star vote every day? Since my last post it’s always been 2 1 star votes every day and my second chapter of Twice Linned is now at 4.59. (And yes, I've submitted a report based on the earlier linked topic)

I’m beyond caring at this point as I know there are many who like the stories I write. I just find it funny that some people would go the lengths of downvoting stories due to them not being happy with their own pathetic lives.

 

[onehitwanda]

I wonder if someone is capable of creating a bot and getting it to go through stories and 1-star vote every day? Since my last post it’s always been 2 1 star votes every day and my second chapter of Twice Linned is now at 4.59. (And yes, I've submitted a report based on the earlier linked topic)

To put it succinctly, it is an hour or two's work at most for even an intermediate-level programmer to do something like this.

 

[Jackie.Hikaru]

That's if I hit powerball and make Laurel a sick offer so I'd have something to do with myself.

I can't deny I've had this exact fantasy lol.