Once upon a time.....A Dilemma

Anais Nîn

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Once upon a time there was a couple. They came to a point in their marriage when things were very rough. It was nobody’s fault really. They both could have done things differently.

The woman started going to a nearby bar. A busy, social place where all sorts of folks would come and go and hang out and talk about all sorts of things. She had found a fun place where she could relax in ways she hadn’t in a long time. She also found a special friend. She’d sit on his lap and flirt and they’d laugh. And they talked about all sorts of things in a way she hadn’t ever.
She didn’t mention her new friend(s) to her husband. It felt like a much needed space just for her.

The couple ended up separated and then reuniting. She continued to see her friends at the bar. He realized it and asked her about it so she told him some things in the spirit of openness though she didn’t tell him which bar it was telling him she wanted her privacy there.

Well, she told him enough that he figured it out anyway and went there himself and watched. He saw who her friends were and how she was different off by herself. He ended up liking the place and going back there himself even though in the beginning he swore he would leave her alone with her friends at the bar. In the spirit of making her marriage work she took this as a new kind of openness that needed to be worked into their relationship.

Of course stories are not always simple and there are many more parts to this one. The short of it is she decided to leave him have they had been back together for a couple of months. It was a very painful situation for both of them but it had come to that point.

So he kept going to the bar and so did she. She hung with her friends and he made some of his own. He also talked to hers (casually) once in a while, knowing they were her friends. Some of them didn’t even know that he was her husband. She became more and more uncomfortable there. A certain freedom and feeling of privacy had been lost for her as well as an uneasiness that he was trying to be friends with the few friends she had
painstakingly made over many months.

He asked her if she minded and she weakly said ‘no’ feeling like it wasn’t really her place to tell him he couldn’t go there and he had made some friends there that he could use in such a tough time. After all it was a really cool bar and it was public and what right did she have to claim it as a space for her alone. They are trying to amicable about things, after all is said and done.

But still she had this watched feeling.

She tried to go there incognito a couple of times but either she wasn’t very good about it or he was too observant because he caught on to her pretty quick and made it obvious he did. She’s been advised to wait until the new back door is finished and return incognnito through there where she won’t be seen but she’s really most comfortable being herself. That’s what the folks there know her as.

So what should she do? Should she keep going there anyway? She wants to be able to flirt and carry on and there’s no reason not to except that it might cause her ex more pain and and she really is not into that. As well as that watched feeling. Is the incognito way the only way she’ll get privacy again?
Should she tell him to go to another bar even though this is the best one? It's really just a public place, not someplace she can really place any claim on? Maybe she should just go to another bar and make new friends?

What ya think?
 
be yourself

go and be yourself

he'll have to find his own way
eventually
if being there is too painful
he'll stop
 
Re: be yourself

Kandi said:
go and be yourself

he'll have to find his own way
eventually
if being there is too painful
he'll stop

He said he would stop and he didn't.

But thank you. She does need to be herself. And she does need the few friends she has there. She finds it hard when she feels his eyes on her though.
 
i can empathize

but it's really just part
of the pain of separation
and tho it feels uncomfortable now
pushing thru it is
the only way to get to the other side
 
Anais Nîn said:
So tell me something constructive.


Doesn't it take one to know one?

Constructive? Okay....

First, the fact that your social life is centered around a drinking establishment is not a good sign and nothing to be proud of.

Go find something more productive to do with your time.

Second, what you and your husband are doing sounds childish at best.

Tell him to fuck off and drink somewhere else....or you go drink somewhere else if it's bugging you.

Barflies are barflies. If you're going to look at life through the bottom of a glass, it really doesn't matter which bar you do it in...you'll be in someone else's lap in notime anyway.

Those are my thoughts.

Lance
 
Gee, folks.

Sorry, I thought I was more obvious than that. My symbolism must be too good.

There is no drinking going on. It's an anology.

It's the main place that her friends gather.
 
Anais Nîn said:
Gee, folks.

Sorry, I thought I was more obvious than that. My symbolism must be too good.

There is no drinking going on. It's an anology.

It's the main place that her friends gather.

I "got it" and your story was very well written. I don't have any answers for you though, unfortunately. You won't likely get your friends to follow you to another site. You may have to put up with him "watching" you here.
 
Anais Nîn said:
Gee, folks.

Sorry, I thought I was more obvious than that. My symbolism must be too good.

There is no drinking going on. It's an anology.

It's the main place that her friends gather.

Yeah, your symbolism is fucking inspired.

I can only hope the flirting on someone's lap and installation of a back door parts of your story were symbolic of your desire for anal sex with strangers...because otherwise, you're just boring.
 
Cheyenne said:
I "got it" and your story was very well written. I don't have any answers for you though, unfortunately. You won't likely get your friends to follow you to another site. You may have to put up with him "watching" you here.

Ohhhhhhhh<slaps forehead>...of course.

No doubt the same people who found my "lurking husbands" thread so boring...so who is this regular poster that's advocating people leave Lit?
 
I say ignore him. I'd make it very clear to the people you call friends not to be discussing you in any way with your ex and leave it at that. You can't stop him from coming here but you can control your interaction with him. It would suck to feel like you should censor what you say knowing he is reading it but I don't think changing your nic would help all that much. Like you said, he always figures it out anyway.

Good Luck to ya! :)
 
estevie said:
I say ignore him. I'd make it very clear to the people you call friends not to be discussing you in any way with your ex and leave it at that. You can't stop him from coming here but you can control your interaction with him. It would suck to feel like you should censor what you say knowing he is reading it but I don't think changing your nic would help all that much. Like you said, he always figures it out anyway.

Good Luck to ya! :)


Ditto.

What a hen house this place is.

But I do want to know about the anal sex plans...

Lance
 
Lancecastor said:
Ohhhhhhhh<slaps forehead>...of course.

No doubt the same people who found my "lurking husbands" thread so boring...so who is this regular poster that's advocating people leave Lit?

You're dense this morning, Lance. Did you not have your coffee yet?

No one is advocating that anyone leave Lit. My post was addressing foxinsox's suggestion which was made when she thought that we were talking about a real bar, not Lit.
 
Lancecastor said:
Ditto.

What a hen house this place is.

But I do want to know about the anal sex plans...

Lance

Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, hon? What a grump! Do you need some coffee? I'll share!
 
Cheyenne said:
I "got it" and your story was very well written. I don't have any answers for you though, unfortunately. You won't likely get your friends to follow you to another site. You may have to put up with him "watching" you here.

That's kind of what I thought.

She probably just needs to chalk it up as another loss.
 
estevie said:
Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, hon? What a grump! Do you need some coffee? I'll share!

hehe...
 
I liked your analogy.

One of the most difficult parts of separating is who gets the friends. You can walk quietly away and let him have them, or you continue to be you and stay where you are. If he watches, it is because he still cares and you are the one who needs to work that through.

He will always know he can find you here, just as you know you will find him here. You can use it to help heal or destroy. Your choice. Maybe, just maybe, you two can be friends, too.
 
estevie said:
I say ignore him. I'd make it very clear to the people you call friends not to be discussing you in any way with your ex and leave it at that. You can't stop him from coming here but you can control your interaction with him. It would suck to feel like you should censor what you say knowing he is reading it but I don't think changing your nic would help all that much. Like you said, he always figures it out anyway.

Good Luck to ya! :)

This seems to make the most sense.
 
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