on the never ending topic of cop shootings,

[dolf]

this one is a classic.

 

[cjh]

That's from The Guardian.

It's probably fabricated.

 

[dolf]

That's from The Guardian.

It's probably fabricated.

I lol'd

 

[cjh]

At least Ottolenghi can be found there.

 

[SkAoUt]

Cop shoot cop - Ambulance song

 

[Boxlicker101]

We've been hearing a lot about police shootings lately. As far as I can see, the evidence shows the killings of Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown were justified. I have doubts about the shooting in this thread and I believe the chokehold death should result in a charge of Voluntary Manslaughter.

We haven't heard as much about this shooting. Why do you suppose that is? http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...unarmed-white-man-no-buildings-torched-video/

And this guy was actually surrendering.

Footage from the officer’s body camera appears to show Officer Bron Cruz confronting the suspect, who ignores commands to stop and show his hands.

Officers said Taylor then quickly moved his hands up from his waistband, prompting Cruz to shoot him in the chest and stomach.

 

[Busybody]

We've been hearing a lot about police shootings lately. As far as I can see, the evidence shows the killings of Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown were justified. I have doubts about the shooting in this thread and I believe the chokehold death should result in a charge of Voluntary Manslaughter.

.[/b]

Officers Did Not Use Excessive Force in Arresting Garner





It’s rare that I find myself on opposite sides of an issue from Charles Krauthammer. Such is my respect for his opinions that when I find myself differing with him, I ask where I’ve gone wrong. But not this time.

Appearing Wednesday on the Fox News Channel’s Special Report, Dr. Krauthammer was discussing the decision by a Staten Island grand jury not to indict an NYPD officer in the July 17 death of Eric Garner, a decision he described as “totally incomprehensible.” I’m sorry, Dr. K., but I don’t find it the least bit incomprehensible.

Officer Daniel Pantaleo was one of several officers involved in the incident, and it was he who grabbed Garner in what has often been described as a “chokehold,” which has been erroneously attributed as the cause of Garner’s death (the medical examiner described it as a contributing factor). In the widely seen video of the arrest, Pantaleo can be seen with his arm around Garner’s neck as Garner is taken to the ground and for some time thereafter, but in watching the video it’s difficult to determine whether Garner was in fact choked. And if he was, it did not appear it was long enough even to render him unconscious, much less kill him.

Much has been made of Garner’s pleas that he couldn’t breathe as he was held on the ground, and in retrospect those pleas are all the more disturbing to hear given what we know to have happened soon thereafter. But the fact that Garner was saying he could not breathe was in itself evidence that he could, for if he was truly unable to breathe then neither could he have spoken. And as Garner was saying these words, neither Pantaleo nor any other officer was holding the man’s neck.

I saw nothing excessive in the manner in which the officers subdued Garner. He was neither beaten with batons nor even punched. To me, it appeared to be a fairly typical scuffle with a large man who had clearly demonstrated his unwillingness to be arrested peacefully. Pantaleo and another plainclothes officer were the first to have contacted Garner, and they showed good judgment by waiting for additional officers to arrive before moving in for the arrest. But once Garner showed he would not willingly be handcuffed, things happened as they most often do in these situations: The cops grabbed whatever part of Garner they could and wrestled him to the ground. It happens every day in any large city you could name. Given Garner’s medical condition, which included obesity, asthma, and high blood pressure, it seems very possible he would have died from the exertion of the scuffle in any case, even if no officer had touched his neck at all.

Where I do find fault with the officers is in their failure to bring Garner to a seated position as soon as they had him under control. Police trainers have long been aware of a phenomenon known as positional asphyxia, in which a person subdued as Garner was can die if left lying in a prone position for too long. Obese people are known to be at a greater risk of this condition than others. The civil case to follow will likely rest on this lapse as much as it does on the use of force itself.

One reason Dr. Krauthammer and so many others are expressing their shock at the grand jury’s decision is the triviality of the crime for which the officers sought to arrest him: selling individual, untaxed cigarettes on the street. It’s unfortunate that NYPD officers have been pressed into service as enforcers for the nanny state that New York City has become, but don’t put a law on the books if you don’t want the cops to enforce it, and don’t ask them to enforce it if you’re not willing to accept the fact that violence will sometimes occur when people resist that enforcement.

— Jack Dunphy is the nom de cyber of a police officer in Southern California.

 

[eyer]

All the virtueless cops need to die...

...all the good cops need to go Galt.

Then...

...let all the whiners eat cake.

 

[chillywilly2]

It doesn't really matter which shooting or chokehold is justified or not.

What matters is that people protest and complain about police and political brutality.


It keeps them awake to the fact that people can't be pushed around and we get pissed off.

If we stopped complaining and protesting, they would walk all over us and pretty soon we would have no control or say in anything.

 

[Skiddles2014]

We've been hearing a lot about police shootings lately. As far as I can see, the evidence shows the killings of Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown were justified. I have doubts about the shooting in this thread and I believe the chokehold death should result in a charge of Voluntary Manslaughter.

We haven't heard as much about this shooting. Why do you suppose that is? http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...unarmed-white-man-no-buildings-torched-video/

And this guy was actually surrendering.

Footage from the officer’s body camera appears to show Officer Bron Cruz confronting the suspect, who ignores commands to stop and show his hands.

Officers said Taylor then quickly moved his hands up from his waistband, prompting Cruz to shoot him in the chest and stomach.

That's all the proof someone like you would need.

 

[eyer]

It doesn't really matter which shooting or chokehold is justified or not.

What matters is that people protest and complain about police and political brutality.


It keeps them awake to the fact that people can't be pushed around and we get pissed off.

If we stopped complaining and protesting, they would walk all over us and pretty soon we would have no control or say in anything.

What a load of victimized bullshit...

...your "they" is "we", bozo.

~ pats little class warfare socialist on his poindexter head ~

 

[Skiddles2014]

What a load of victimized bullshit...

...your "they" is "we", bozo.

~ pats little class warfare socialist on his poindexter head ~

Go to trial against a cop and then say that.

 

[eyer]

Go to trial against a cop and then say that.

Understood...

...without your fabricated "they" versus "we" - your "we" being the righteous and your "they" being the villainous - your politics would have absolutely no purpose.

~ pats little class warfare socialist on his poindexter head ~

 

[dolf]

Cop shoot cop - Ambulance song

weirdly, I love this

 

[Skiddles2014]

Understood...

...without your fabricated "they" versus "we" - your "we" being the righteous and your "they" being the villainous - your politics would have absolutely no purpose.

Ya, maybe you're right.

Cops don't ever get special treatment in the eyes of justice, they are just us with badges, guns, unions and lawyers paid for by us.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

So disband the cops.

 

[chillywilly2]

Yup, standing in front of a judge, the judge always believes the citizens story before the cops.

Government likes to control citizens and thats all there is too it.

You can say that citizens get elected all you want, after they learn how things are run, they become the government.

 

[chillywilly2]

So disband the cops.

No, we need cops, but we need to keep them under control too.

We can't make their job too easy.
They have to know the limits as to how much they can push people around.

The motto is protect and serve

 

[dolf]

bunch of scratched bloody records.

whether you think they were a poopyhead who deserved to be shot, choked, crushed, run over, or attacked by dogs, do you think that cops should call for an ambulance and/or perform first aid on those they injure?

at least try to stay on topic.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

No, we need cops, but we need to keep them under control too.

We can't make their job too easy.
They have to know the limits as to how much they can push people around.

The motto is protect and serve

Okay, so make niggers stop resisting arrest. You don't wanna go that route, either. So here we are. It cant end well for niggers, theyre outnumbered 3-1 at least. Prolly 8-1. Whites hate lawlessness and wont let niggers wild at will. We'll look the other way and let the dogs loose.

 

[chillywilly2]

OH, yeah, shoulda been ambulance and first aid first, but then again, why.

A friend of mine is a cop, told me once that while making his rounds, walked by a strip club and the bouncer was bouncing a couple guys.
He asked the bouncer if he needed help.
The bouncer said, fuck off cop....ten minutes later the cop get a call about a shooting at the strip club.

The guy that got bounced went to his car, got a gun and shot the bouncer.

He is laying on the ground bleeding waiting for an ambulance and asks the cop to stop the bleeding...he says, sorry pal, I don't touch blood, wait for the medics.

 

[chillywilly2]

Okay, so make niggers stop resisting arrest. You don't wanna go that route, either. So here we are. It cant end well for niggers, theyre outnumbered 3-1 at least. Prolly 8-1. Whites hate lawlessness and wont let niggers wild at will. We'll look the other way and let the dogs loose.

No, you just make the cops make real sure before they pull a trigger.

Thats what the protesting does...if nobody said anything, the cops would be pulling triggers left right and centre and the politicians would be letting them

 

[Skiddles2014]

No, you just make the cops make real sure before they pull a trigger.

Thats what the protesting does...if nobody said anything, the cops would be pulling triggers left right and centre and the politicians would be letting them

Stop quoting it.

Thanks.

 

[eyer]

at least try to stay on topic.

Ok...

...your unicorn farts - as usual - stink.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

No, you just make the cops make real sure before they pull a trigger.

Thats what the protesting does...if nobody said anything, the cops would be pulling triggers left right and centre and the politicians would be letting them

Naaah. Shootings are a major pain in the ass for cops, no one pops a nigger for a goof. In Pixley or Hooterville its guaranteed job loss, in Gotham its a desk job with the queers and gals.