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TexasGentleman
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to me it means that we experienced the insanity that every other country has experienced by these terrorist idiots who can only get attention by terror not because they have a brain any body can blow up a bomb or building. it takes intelligence not to and to not be involved in it.
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lavender said:
You know for the most part I love American's and America "BUT" you were pre 9/11 a rather insular nation as witnessed by your views on other countries that I've seen posted here and on other BB's and by the conversations I've had with US tourist's and visitors to this nation.
Your world view of the UK could be boiled down to one word "quaint", we were old fasioned and we did funny things that made little sense, we had no drive in's or strip malls and home delivery pizza only started here in the UK about 20 years ago.
We were less technological than you but we invent half of all the patented devices made, what you didn't see is that every country has it's own ways of doing thing's and some are gonna be better than your (or my) county's way of doing it and some are gonna be worse, I think your perceptions are coloured largely by the fact that only 10% of the US population has a passport, few Americans go abroard and a lot that do only go because it's with the millitary, whereas most UK citizens will go abroard at some point in their life if only to go on holiday.
Travel is the best mind altering drug you'll ever find.
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OUTSIDER said:
I am one of the Americans who does travel- had my first passport when I was 9 months old (with my mom.)
I'd point out though that just because Americans don't travel out of the U.S. it doesn't mean that they don't travel at all. This is a huge country- we can spend our entire lives here and still not see a fraction of all we have to offer right here at home. There are many states I've never been to yet. UK, on the other hand, is tiny in comparison. You almost HAVE to travel outside your own little world or you'll run out of new places to go! After all, the place is "quaint."
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exactly cheyanne i have been to 30 states that still leaves me 20 more to see right here.
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lavender said:
To me, it means we have lost our innocense.
Prior to September 11th, I think we felt that things like that could never happen here ... that nobody would dare to attack the strongest country in the world, fearing the wrath of retribution.
And now that it has happened, I believe it is important to indeed show our strength unmercifully, to make perfectly clear what the consequences are.
We will never be the same again ... we'll retain our pride and dignity, our independence and freedom ... but we will never again be so naive.
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Cheyenne said:
I am one of the Americans who does travel- had my first passport when I was 9 months old (with my mom.)
I'd point out though that just because Americans don't travel out of the U.S. it doesn't mean that they don't travel at all. This is a huge country- we can spend our entire lives here and still not see a fraction of all we have to offer right here at home. There are many states I've never been to yet. UK, on the other hand, is tiny in comparison. You almost HAVE to travel outside your own little world or you'll run out of new places to go! After all, the place is "quaint."
Yes America is huge and you will see a lot of "Americana" but you need to see the world you really live in not just the country.
And without wishing to start a fight here do you even realise just how "insular" you reply is ? it could almost be a text book example......."Hey why should I go anyplace else when America is so big.....what the hell is worth leaving the States for anyway".
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wow that was very well said cherry i like that very much.
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OUTSIDER said:
Yes, I do. It sounds exactly as I meant it to sound. It is the exact answer you will get from many Americans, like it or not.
And why exactly do the people who want to travel in "just" America " "need to see the world"? Lots of them are perfectly happy right here. They are already in the best place on earth, why leave?
Remember, I said that I "do" travel the world. But I won't condemn those that want to stay here at home. Especially now. I won't be traveling outside of the U.S. myself in the near future. It is safer right here.
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the only country i will ever go to again after what happened it Canada. it is beautiful i will never go to mexico it is a slum and i wont ever fly again anywhere.
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Cheyenne said:
Yes, I do. It sounds exactly as I meant it to sound. It is the exact answer you will get from many Americans, like it or not.
And why exactly do the people who want to travel in "just" America " "need to see the world"? Lots of them are perfectly happy right here. They are already in the best place on earth, why leave?
Remember, I said that I "do" travel the world. But I won't condemn those that want to stay here at home. Especially now. I won't be traveling outside of the U.S. myself in the near future. It is safer right here.
I hope your joking but if your not I'll ask you one question.....what country was the World Trade Centre in then ?
well I'm outta this thread, I don't feel like I'm reaching you at all
