On Degradation

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i was reading the thread about the differences between male and female subs, and a tangent there intrigued me.

As a male sub, i perceive a very distint difference in the attitudes of male subs to their female counterparts. As Ms. Eb had noted, males tend to be more eager to please. i personally tend to generally think that servitude comes easier to us men because we are already used to not having the power in the male-female sexual dynamic.

However, for me, personally, it's something different. i think there is some other force at work for me that touches upon the gender roles that society has instilled subconsciously into me.

i am not, by nature, a submissive person. In fact, i am actually a bit of a dominant personality. i am opinionated, quick to anger, and like to draw people around me. i have Dom'd in bed before, as well.

Despite all of this, though, my Mistress owns me. i have only the control She allows me... i willingly gave my power to make my own decisions to Her. i think it is because, unlike above, it runs contrary to what i want or expect.

As a sub, i do not necessarily crave pain, or being tied up. i only look forward to it because when i am receiving my spanking for misbehaving, or being bound and tormented, it reinforces that i am my Mistress's property. i may be a strong individual, but when She snaps Her fingers at the end of the day i am reminded that i am still Her toy, and the degradation that comes with that is what i crave in my submission, because it draws attention to the gift of submission i gave Her, and the gift of Domination that She gave me.

i hesitate to call it humiliation, because it doesn't have to be that extreme. Just a look can do it. A command to tell Her what i am. A menial task that puts me in my place, like offering a place to rest Her feet or simply altering my posture to display my body for Her.

This is probably a tired subject, but studying the differences between how males and females submit helped me clarify what i as a male sub find exciting in my Mistress's ownership.

Female subs, do you look for something different to create that spark of excitement? Not simply the need to serve, which all of we subs have, but that extra kink that sweetens the deal? Usually it seems that being degraded is something that most female subs merely tolerate, at best.

Dom/me's, do You ever have a conscious goal in mind besides amusement when taking Your sub down a peg or two?
 
Do I have a conscious goal when My boy needs to be taken down a peg or two? Of course, I do. I have found that My proud young boy needs a reminder on occasion. I make sure that I get My point across. I try to make sure that he knows when he is being punished vs when W/we are just playing. I have found that denying him subspace works well. :devil:


Helena :rose:
 
G.Helena's gift said:
Dom/me's, do You ever have a conscious goal in mind besides amusement when taking Your sub down a peg or two?

You mean besides the goal of watching him obey even though the task may be demeaning and humiliating?

Nope.

Eb
 
G.Helena's gift said:
Female subs, do you look for something different to create that spark of excitement? Not simply the need to serve, which all of we subs have, but that extra kink that sweetens the deal? Usually it seems that being degraded is something that most female subs merely tolerate, at best.

The need to serve is of course a HUGE thing for me. I'm rather new to the subject so I'm just learning as I go along.

At different times it is different things that "sweeten the deal".

When I am allowed the subspace to give up my control completely and utterly to My Master it is a very moving thing. That alone can humble me to the point of tears. Tears of happiness, that I do not understand.

I am forced to be in absolute tension filled control in every other aspect of my life. Lack of control, pure trust is a sweet release for me.

To know that I can just live to please My Master even if for just a short amount of time is very freeing. In that time I don't have to worry about phone calls, sales meetings, people or even myself. I have but one concern, My Master.

If it is his will to love me, use me, fuck me or beat me I would submit when I get into that subspace. I know he would never damage me. I am open to him doing whatever he wants to me. It pleases me because when I submit I know I pleased him, and that is bliss.

The reward at the end of play. The soft cuddle, The warm embrace to me these things are a big part of it also. Knowing that I was pleasing makes me feel ... Simply wonderful. Like I'm okay, that I'm going to be okay when I go back to the phone calls, and meetings and other people. I feel like I'm worth something. Not just beacuse I pleased him, but because I pleased me.

Since I don't know my limts he must watch me every second. I don't always understand what I'm feeling. I can't always help him to understand what I need.

Speaking of which being watched my My Master is a huge *kink* for me.

So that's kind of where I am at now. There's more to it. I'm just not sure I can explain.

I don't know if the need to be controlled is a degradation thing. I'm not sure though.


Respectfully,
Helia:rose:
 
I enjoy being degraded, if that includes humiliation play at certain times, and being taken down a peg or two by my Mistress. We are both female, and She enjoys humbling me as much as I enjoy being humbled. It's good for my soul as I never claimed to be the humblest creature on earth, and it's done with kinky love and a good deal of appreciation otherwise. ;)
 
Re: Re: On Degradation

Ebonyfire said:
You mean besides the goal of watching him obey even though the task may be demeaning and humiliating?

Nope.

Eb

have i ever mentioned how kickass i think you are, EB?
 
lark sparrow said:
It's good for my soul as I never claimed to be the humblest creature on earth, and it's done with kinky love and a good deal of appreciation otherwise. ;)

Good comment, lark. My male subs are not humble men either, and they like the fact that there is a person who can take them where they need to go, even if it is with humiliation and a bit of degradation.

They know how they are treasured.

Eb
 
If i am not mistaken, humiliation/degradation is a tool used by Dom/me's to exert control or affect a punishment on Their submissive. Is that correct?

As a sub, i enjoy humiliation myself and sometimes struggle with it if the humiliation seems to come from a place that does not serve a purpose, i.e., teach a lesson, punishment, etc.

There is something about the performing a humiliating act for your Dom/me that makes the control feel that much tighter and sweetly enveloping. i think the subbies know what i mean when i say that.

Just this subbies random thoughts. Hello to A/all.;)
 
s'lara said:
If i am not mistaken, humiliation/degradation is a tool used by Dom/me's to exert control or affect a punishment on Their submissive. Is that correct?

As a sub, i enjoy humiliation myself and sometimes struggle with it if the humiliation seems to come from a place that does not serve a purpose, i.e., teach a lesson, punishment, etc.

There is something about the performing a humiliating act for your Dom/me that makes the control feel that much tighter and sweetly enveloping. i think the subbies know what i mean when i say that.

Just this subbies random thoughts. Hello to A/all.;)

*smiles* i know just what you mean. I feel just that much more complete and dominated when i'm made to do something that makes me a bit embarrassed...and it usually helps me get over some pointless inhibitions as well...always a plus.
 
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